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I think there should be limits to what is acceptable pertaining to 'freedom of religion'. I agree with the decision of the 'DGE' (Director General of Elections), as Islamic religious beliefs could interfere with the security of the general public, especially in a public polling station, when dressed in an outfit consisting of loose fitting veils covered from head to toe, which could be concealing anything including, obviously, ones true identity. Add to this various threats from the general public and you could have a very disruptive problem. Muslims should understand this type of problem in a modern Western country and adjust certain aspects of their religion to accommodate general public fears and suspicion, especially in a time of racial, or imported customs or religious beliefs, relating to Muslim unrest.

Who needs the Queen's support to revolt? Anyway, Canada is well on the way of becoming a republic. 'The Charter of Rights and Freedoms' has effectively allowed judicial supremacy, which undermines meaningful parliamentary politics which is the heart and soul of our monarchical heritage. Even Sec.33, pertaining to the 'the notwithstanding clause' will not and does not reflect our monarchical heritage, because again the courts will define the parameters and validity relating to its application. We should be embracing embracing republican inspired reforms, including democratization of parliamentary procedures, proportional representation, the curtailment of the concentration of powers in the prime ministers office and a triple E-elected, equal and effective senate. I have no grudge against minorities, but I do against those who try to destabilize the unity of the country with outrageous demands and who are constantly demanding more rights from our federal government to bolster the political status of their minority. For what real reason as I am not part of that culture. I am there for business purposes and as far as I know, like any other business if they want my money they should speak to me in the majority commercial language of Canada, English. It is my decision where I do my business or even where I live in Canada. Everything is a business proposition as far as I am concerned and English is the official mainstream commercial language, a language all Canadians should be familiar with. YES, to both of your assertions and I will not elaborate. Multiculturalism has many flaws including the absence of compelling minorities to conform to the cultural characteristics of Canada and not trying to undermine these characteristics with their own. This is serious buisness. Most nations do have sub-cultures, no problem. We have already covered this a few times already. Important jobs or any kind of job in Quebec are mostly all held by Francophone's. Even pertaining to federal employment in Quebec, English speaking employees are denied their proper representation. It is common knowledge Quebec protects its own job market. Just count the Quebec vehicles pouring over to Ontario every morning compared to the vehicles coming into Quebec at the same time of day. What a joke!

The Harris government inherited a $11- billion deficit from previous Liberal, NDP, governments. "After all, in 1995, not only did we inherit an $11-billion deficit after a decade of Liberal and NDP government, but we also inherited a decade of neglect with respect to investments in the long-term-care sector. Ernie Eves's government, however, is taking action where it is needed through investments such as our $1.2-billion investment toward new and redeveloped long-term-care beds in Ontario, and, I might add, with our $100 million in new funding for nursing and personal care services." http://hansardindex.ontla.on.ca/hansardeissue/37-3/l046a.htm The Conservatives 'common sense revolution' was born out of necessity because "the system was broken". due to past Liberal-NDP governments. http://www.answers.com/topic/common-sense-revolution No one can beat 'Lying Dalton' and his 'Top 50 Broken Promises'. http://www.paymoregetless.ca/brokenpromises/ LMAO!

"Conservative leader John Tory pronounced the budget "disappointing" and accused Premier Dalton McGuinty of orchestrating a "political spending buffet" financed by burgeoning tax revenues. "They have absolutely no interest in helping average taxpayers who are struggling," Mr. Tory said, noting that the Liberals have increased spending by more than $22 billion since coming to office. Mr. Tory, who has promised to phase out the health tax over four years if elected, urged Ontarians to be cautious about Liberal promises that stretch years into the future." "Why would any taxpayer in Ontario anywhere in any town in any station in life believe a word in this document? Four years ago, about now, he started laying out the last list of promises, most of which have not been kept." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Growing again? Why, if there are so many poor Ontarians? How, by being the biggest welfare province in Canada. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...0a-c4cd08e80b8d

Don't worry I'am quite aware of that one. I just didn't tell you what I do about it. It is really self explanatory. If I walk into a store that advertises in a foreign language that I do not understand, it could mean either either two things. One being that I am able understand that language and the second I could leave myself wide open for potential abuse, either in the way of discrimination, fraud, poor service etc. Minority language speakers can speak what ever language they choose. But when it comes to commercial transactions or casual conversation with a stranger, the working language of Canada is the official majority English language, that ALL Canadians should be required to learn. Reverse discrimination exists because of a preconceived hate concerning culture, language, religion etc. and that is why multiculturalism is gong to eventually fail as minority groups become more intertwined and powerful among their own kind. Canadians have never been given the opportunity to be part of the process concerning a very important amendment in their own constitution, so until we have some sort of referendum we will never know the number of Canadians who think the Charter is a corrupt, totalitarian undemocratic document. This of course is outside of federal propaganda polls. Personally especially living in Ottawa, I have learned from personal experience the discriminatory downside of the Charter and how Quebecers have been multiplying their job fortunes (taken from the English) by the artificial spread, pertaining to unwanted, forced federal style bilingualism into provinces and municipalities out of federal jurisdiction. But with Charter rights that detrimentally override rights in cities and provinces concerning the second minority official language that should never have been given that status without another referendum to establish that status. Why should English speaking Canadians in their own English majority speaking city and province such as Ottawa be forced to look for work in other Canadian cities because many employers are bound by federal example and undemocratic municipal bilingual policies to hire bilingual Francophone's many from Quebec. If this condition happened in Quebec whereas English were flooding the Quebec job market, you would have riots in the street, guaranteed. It is almost impossible as it is, for a bilingual English speaking person to get any kind of job in Quebec and this includes trades people from Ontario.

Simply because they CAN NOT. All other Canadian provinces signed the new constitution and ALL PROVINCES BUT QUEBEC LEGALLY ABIDE BY THE CONDITONS OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER, but got screwed big time because the federal government to this day as not forced Quebec to back off with the discriminatory Bill-101 otherwise known as the French Language Charter. This is what I say, only a CIVIL WAR or revolution will return Canada back to where laws are laws and all Canadians are protected by those laws and not laughed at. Remember it was only Quebec the only province in Canada that refused to sign the new constitution but our dumb federal government included Quebec regardless (huge mistake) and gave them the same benefits of all other provinces, who did sign the constitution. (What's the reward for dumb English speaking provinces even being part of this corrupt Charter?) Quebec turns around and uses the notwithstanding clause to impose unconstitutional, undemocratic French language laws that discriminate against the English language and spirit of Canadian nationalism. It certainly does, even French. When I go over to Gatineau, Quebec especially in the Hull sector clerks at stores even like even Walmarts, some clerks pretend they do not understand English and promptly walk away when questioned about a product. Cashiers as soon as they find out your English speaking put their heads down and do not look at you or say anything. This creates breeding grounds for other levels of discrimination. Do you actually suppose I would walk into a store that has signs posted in only Arabic for instance, my answer to that, stuff your store. You know damn well minority languages who operate sections of a city in minority languages are not doing it for the benefit of the majority but to capitalize with their own kind and gain recognition in the form of a power grab, by isolating their minority away from the majority English. High potential for discrimination again. The reverse kind though, the type that their are not any laws for--reverse discrimination from a minority. No, there is more to it than that why you were reported, but obviously you are still here and I must say, I am disappointed with the management of this site who are unable to distinguish the characteristics of a troll. BTW- The only language police in Canada are only in the SINGLE province that incorporates a Nazi type language policy, being Quebec. LOL

Are you still here?

The federal Charter discriminates against majority English speaking Canadians by providing special attention to Quebec's French 'collective rights' i.e. 'official languages' and entrenching them into the Canadian constitution, while ignoring English speaking Canadian collective rights, that could include, the notion, this might not be such a good idea to entrench these minority French rights. This equates to the failure by the federal government to implement a national referendum to address this all important concern. Quebec never signed the the new Canadian Constitution and to impress its use of Bill-101 or otherwise called the French Language Charter, has used the 'notwithstanding clause' to prevent Quebec from honouring its commitment to the new Canadian Constitution. This is outright discriminating against the people of Canada and the other official language of Canada and again illustrates the lack of federal leadership to force Quebec to honour Charter requirements. This will be my last post trying to form any kind of significant debate with you as you are an obvious troll. You have been reported.

REPORTED!!!!!

How do you figure that? Why don't you read the rest of his post, being: "Quebeckers are merely rationally using this unsustainable law to their advantage, at the cost of the have provinces." Quebec's special Charter status elevates that province's ideologies and culture, up and above, the normal level of politics in this country, along with 75-federal seats all national federal parties have to fight for. Anything that relates in the 'Charter of Rights and Freedoms' to that provinces ideologies and culture could be seen as an infringement to the 'basic inherent rights' of English speaking Canadians concerning the Crown and our Constitutional monarchy.

Great, you have finally admitted language is a component of culture. I don't know how you possibly can say that when sections of the discriminatory Charter are specifically devoted to Quebec. Let me put it this way, if it was not for multiculturalism, you would NOT have a Charter. The main function of the Charter is to FORCEFULLY impress Quebec ideologies and culture on the rest of Canada. You still do not understand in Richmond B.C. you have a foreign minority language (Chinese) trying to establish precedence over the official language English. Region means nothing as far as discrimination is concerned. Quebec is discriminating against the official language of Canada, English, which has Charter protection. How would you like all other provinces in Canada to develop their own language Charter, to keep those provinces English, as part of their culture? This would remove the danger of French or any other language from forming any kind of precedence within majority English speaking provinces.

How do you figure that? Why don't you read the rest of his post, being: "Quebeckers are merely rationally using this unsustainable law to their advantage, at the cost of the have provinces." Don't you realize the 1982, 'Charter of Rights and Freedoms' contains parts relating to Quebec that are not only totally undemocratic but fly in the face in regards to 'basic inherent rights' concerning 'all Canadians' that have been won by the British. Canadians were denied those rights by the Liberal party of Canada, pertaining to our system of government as a 'constitutional monarchy' and a 'parliamentary democracy'. Instead of DENYING Canadians their 'RIGHTS' in participating in constitutional amendments, why don't they do the RIGHT thing and make Canada a REPUBLIC. BTW- Do you have any idea how much it cost to feed Quebec rights resulting from the Charter 1982 including a multitude of federal programs in Quebec? That total cost is unknown but I have seen estimates over $700-Billion dollars and I am not certain if that includes special federal programs and initiatives in Quebec but only relates to federal official bilingualism and associated cost.

Thanks to the Charter, Quebec can perpetually play the irresponsible province game, and dwell on culture forever. Mr. Harper bit the old Quebec constitutional bait once again and creating at the same time an even more dysfunctional political system. Majority government, I don't think so!

You are against government intervention, yet you support government linguistic intervention (bilingualism). This proves you are trolling and trying to inflame debates, as you fail to acknowledge language is a component of culture. Please read this: ""Before 1867, British North America still remained, and was still regarded not as a cultural duality but, in the words of Georges Cartier, as 'a diversity of races.'... Language was only one of the many components that made up (this) curious cultural medley... National origin and national tradition - Irish, Scotch and English, as well as French - might be equally influential, and religion, so often sharpened by sectarian bitterness, was perhaps the most important of all. The Fathers of Confederation had to take account of these differences; but their great aim was not the perpetuation of cultural diversity but the establishment of a united nation." http://andrewcoyne.com/2006/10/third-time-...agedy-again.php So! What's the point? My argument AGAIN, was whether you call it biculturalism or multiculturalism is irrelevant. Quebec was the culture that benefited the most culturally over all other cultures , in a official multicultural country. Why? Ontario and Alberta is Canada. Do you want to please supply proof, to support your ridiculous assertions. No, you are wrong. In Richmond B.C., that language by-law (if it exist), was proposed to prevent a minority language from being established, from overtaking the official majority language primarily English. In Quebec it would be fair to argue if French is actually a majority language, since Quebec is a province in Canada and does not have the individual status of a country. Therefore to determine its status as a majority French language, it would have to compile the English language Nevertheless Quebec is badly discriminating with its laws against the English language, as English is an official language of Canada and not a minority language.

This is not true. Their hands are tied, just like our politicians, to do a better job. The only thing that matters in this country is language and culture and this is why our system is so truly dysfunctional.

Biculturalism was originally proposed but multiculturalism was implemented along with discriminatory social engineering, actually paid for by English speaking Canadians themselves. It was Quebec who benefited the most while other cultures were ignored: "The Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism was established in 1963 in response to increasing tension between Quebec and the rest of Canada. The work of the B&B Commission was guided by four key assumptions that were, for the most part, displaced from Canadian politics before being fully developed, leaving a legacy of uncertainty. For the Commission, “equal partnership” was the descriptor of what Francophone-Anglophone relations should be; “biculturalism” was key to recognizing that Francophone Quebecers constitute a society with a full set of institutions; a commitment to social, political and administrative innovations would lead toward societal partnership; and the development of conditions for participation in creating a common framework for societal action was as important as individual rights." http://www.isuma.net/v02n02/oliver/oliver_e.shtml I wish Quebec would do what you say and SEPARATE. We ALL know it's multiculturalism today but bicuturalism or multiculturalism worked the same way for Quebec by providing them with undemocratic, discriminatory, advanced cultural support while ignoring other cultures of Canada. Please post the B.C. language law you are referring to. There is an issue in Richmond B.C. concerning an abundance of Chinese signs and this could be compared to the illegal immigrant issue in the U.S. where a minority wants to establish Spanish as a working language, which is driving their federal government to make English the 'official language' of the U.S. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/12/09/...igns041209.html IMO, it is only a matter of time before Canada will be forced to make English, the one and only, 'official language' of Canada.

Especially operating out of the Shawinigan Hotel, home town of the 'little guy'.

Trudeau was responding to Quebec's cultural demands or in fact could have been working on behalf of Quebec to establish a large degree of linguistic prominence. This is a fact when you consider originally it was biculturalism not multiculturalism. Multiculturalism was not made policy to accommodate immigrants but rather to accommodate Quebec's linguistic prominence. The only reason biculturalism was not made policy was because of Western demands that bicuturalism did not properly reflect the cultural diversity of Western Canada, so multiculturalism was adopted but with the same intent relating to biculturalism, concerning Quebec.. Of course Canada wants immigrants to assimilate, but to suggest Canada is successful at this requires proof. I think Canada is the same boat as France relating to successful immigrant integration and all one has to do is look at the cultural mess in cities like Toronto. Trudeau played hand in hand with Quebec linguistic ideologies. In Quebec linguistic culture diversity rules, just check out the 'French Language Charter'.

The whole reason for confederation was the aim and not the perpetuation of cultural diversity but the establishment of a united nation. Quebec still has not learned this 130 years later. Their still stuck in first gear on cultural diversity.

"The term "Fathers of Confederation" generally refers to all of the people who represented the British North American colonies at one or more of the three conferences that paved the way for the birth of the Canadian federation (these were held in Charlottetown, Quebec and London, England between 1864 and 1867)" And Newfoundland was a (father of confederation) included at the Quebec Conference in 1864. http://www.pco-bcp.gc.ca/aia/default.asp?L...fe#Participants Regarding: "You have the Province of Canada to thank for reinstating French as an official language in Canada." No, we can thank Mr. Trudeau and the Liberal party of Canada for that one and we can thank the Province of Quebec for so nicely co-operating with the ROC by making French the official language of Quebec without including any type of bilingualism policy, especially concerning its status as a minority non-commercial language.

Yes, it's a slippery slope when it comes down to human rights in Canada. But what do you expect when the cause of a dysfunctional government, pertaining to human rights and other serious divisive issues, is due to the fact, it is directly built in to the political system itself. This is what happens when basic third world problems are left unattended for 130 years.

Control over me? Ha-Ha-HA. I freely responded to show how silly you are. The only thing you have been instrumental in accomplishing, is hiding the real facts this topic was designed to expose with many pages of insignificant B.S. It's obvious you don't even know what oppress means. Control, oppress, you have to be from Quebec.

Respect has nothing to do with the federal union of British North America. BTW- Respect is earned NOT FORCED. According to the 'Charter of rights and Freedoms, states: "Canada is founded upon the principles that recognize the supremacy of GOD and the rule of law." Now, to correct your mistaken assumption that there were two founding parties, when there are in fact FIVE founding parties who are responsible for the creation of the federal union of Canada. These five FOUNDING parties are: 1.- Province of Canada 2.-New Brunswick 3.-Nova Scotia 4.-Prince Edward Island 5.-NewFoundland There is NOTHING absolutely NOTHING relating to any kind of bilingualism or 'federal official bilingualism'.

I was replying to fantasy or wishful thinking, that's why. I know your trolling and I am just killing time or worse still, wasting my time.

Could it have anything to with 'Official Languages of Canada', item#16-(3), which states: " Nothing in this Charter limits the authority of Parliament to advance the equality of status or use of English or French."