Leafless

"Justin Trudeau delivered a radical message to hundreds of high school students in Windsor yesterday, calling on them to rethink the capitalist system and reconsider Canada's reputation as a squeaky-clean model nation." http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/n...69-65eb056f970b ---------------------------------------------------- Like father, like son! Sounds like Mr. Trudeau could be a little wet in behind the ears. You be the judge.

So how do you feel about CBC's airing of The Boys of St. Vincents, which is a true depiction. It is clear the CBC is biased towards Christianity in general and is the reason I am against this type of docudrama. If the CBC was sincere about how paedophilia destroys the lives of many innocent young victims, they would do just that. But the CBC would rather than pick out the actions of paedophiles attached only to Christianity and omit the actions of paedophiles infiltrating various groups and organizations throughout society as a whole. CBC is a crown corporation that should be eliminated for the good of society.

No, cultural assimilation is not "forced", it is usually voluntary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_assimilation If it was forced Quebec and Quebecers would probably no longer exist if the British did originally force assimilation. Your personal opinions are not factual and therefore require proof to enforce your personal opinion. Another blurted out personal opinion with no prove to back up your statement. The scientific communities in the U.S. and Canada were metric all along, nothing new there. But if your trying to associate a partially integrated public metric system in Canada as being responsible to create a great cultural wall between American/Canadian customs, shows how twisted your logic and thinking process is. There is a variation in a number of English words between the U.S. and Canada but the base language English is derived from the same people who won this country , the British. My opinions are based on common knowledge. Your opinions are mentally fabricated to suit your point of view. 'Official bilingualism' spits in the face of freedom and democracy making Canada no different than a repulsive communist type country. Another attempt to obfuscate important matter in this thread by implying again (without proof), with your personal opinion overriding the competency of our federal government. Bill-101 otherwise known as Quebec's 'Charter of the French language' is a total sham, makes a mockery out of the federal 'Official Languages Act' and the 'Charter of Rights and Freedoms'. This begs the question ' who is running the show in Canada' the Federal Government of Canada, Quebec, the Aboriginals and why is the federal government so afraid to show leadership? Either way, I don't support any of these undemocratically imposed documents, that have transformed Canada into a corrupt ' banana republic'.

Trailer Park Boys series is supported by the CBC which has busness dealings with Alliance Atlantis, owners of Showcase relating to Canadian talent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showcase_Television There are all kinds of respectable trailer parks along with the seedy trailer parks just like all other forms of accommodation. Your million dollar house might be worth next to nothing, when the media finds out, your next door neighbours are mafia related.

What the CBC is doing is unacceptable. They are using basically tax payers money to hit on, what can be viewed as Canada's national mainstream religion. No doubt CBC has also damaged the reputation of many respectable trailer parks, with their 'Trailer Park Boys' series and seems to have the same intentions with 'Altar Boy Gang'. When using tax payer money, CBC must produce unbiased productions, suitable for general viewing, as they are NOT independent film producers.

Well, in order to produce offspring, the sperm has to enter the vagina. Kind of hard to do with masturbation, just like it's kind of hard to do with gay sex. That is the whole point. Gays are perpetually dysfunctional as 'ma' and 'pa', relating to natural procreation. Heterosexuals have the option of doing whatever they like, relating to wasted sperm and can within the confines of their legal relationship procreate naturally, whenever they wish.

"A CBC pilot program that portrays altar boys as druggies and the Catholic communion host as "munchable snack food, possible poker chips and a repository for drops of LSD" has sparked a complaint accusing the public broadcaster of blasphemy." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One would assume that Christianity being the largest religion in Canada with Catholics being the largest denomination, that the CBC would afford at least the same amount of respect as it did for their production relating to 'the little Mosque on the prairie'. What they did there was hire a consultant to ensure no Muslim would be offended. It is unbelievable the lack of respect the CBC shows towards Christianity and Catholics, which is an important part and component of our Canadian culture. http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix...71-b4f551455a92

Okay, I'll bite. How can masturbation possibly interfere with the ability of an organism to produce offspring when it is done intentionally to arouse oneself sexually and has virtually nothing to do with normal procreation process which can be accomplished anytime my wife and I desire to produce offspring?

The province of Quebec is entitled to a public education outside of Quebec?? If you want to get technically picky, a province can't sign anything either, but the premiers can. What was implied, was pertaining to all francophones in general, should not be entitled to any other type of education, other than the standard English education, outside of the province of Quebec. Apparently the proposed Canadian national animal (Jackass) is burdened by a great load it has to pull, (Liberals, Statism, Quebec) but has neither the brains nor the will to get rid of it.

Pertaining to a right to public education in French is 'where numbers warrant', concerning provinces in Canada, other than Ontario. This is an extremely expensive burden on tax payers considering Quebec not offering for instance what Ontario offers even considering the fact that their are more anglophones in Quebec than their are francophones in Ontario. See chart to see (federal-provincial co-operation) funding throughout Canada: http://www.canadianheritage.gc.ca/progs/lo...sh/page_14.html In Quebec, "naturally it works in Quebec is reverse" is totally discriminatory and I don't know why a province who never signed Canada's constitution is entitled to any type of publicly paid for education outside of Quebec.

I don't know how you come to the conclusion "no one wants to be assimilated'. When a smaller body is absorbed into a larger body, it is more or less automatic as it is to ones benefit to do this. If this is not true, why then did many Quebecers voluntarily become bilingual? Answer: Because it is personally beneficial to do so. I would gather this is your personal opinion as language is only a single component of culture. Please provide proof to your claim. Traditions vary throughout any country concerning culinary desires, but so what, the fact of the matter is there is very little difference between major customs of Americans and Canadians including Quebec. I am not a member of 'Language fairness' nor do I consider their findings biased. What other findings are there? The Liberals have REFUSED to do an audit. What your stating is a matter of opinion. No one knows what procedure would have been used if 'official bilingualism' was never incorporated. As far as I am concerned, any government that does not keep record of tax payers money spent on 'federal official bilingualism' is not only incompetent but absolutely corrupt. PM's are participating in a corrupt, dysfunctional political system, and doing nothing about it. You would have to be a moron to support an existing political party that participates in a dysfunctional, corrupt political system.

Uh, that's a federal concern, no? Even from your viewpoint Leafless, it's of concern to all Canadians.[Leafless, I'm sure you can find a way to blame Quebec/the French for foreign takeovers.] ---- I'll do a little little PR. There's a book titled Why Mexicans Don't Drink Molson which has for thesis that Canadians don't take risks and don't know how to manage global brands. I laughed when I heard about this thesis since, I thought, only an urban English-Canadian could invent such a thesis, write such a book and only urban English Canadians would buy it. Canadians are risk lovers because that's the nature of the country. But we don't have global brand names nor is that a measure of success anyway. Brand names are not our strong point and you have to be an urban English Canadian (likely a woman, let me say it) to believe brand names are a measure of success. I agree with the book that Canadians don't take risk and is one of the main reasons our country has been stalled in park, while the U.S. has left Canada light years behind, relating to a complete lack of entrepreneurial vision on Canada's part. This mostly always has been the case in Canada, with one of the root causes being that Canadians refuse to invest or take chances in Canadian business, unlike Americans. If you want me to drag Quebec into this, then yes, I would say along with Liberal socialist ideologies, dwelling on culture and language and the constant perpetual unity issue, rather than focus more on the importance of encouraging Canadians to invest in Canadian business and manufacturing, Quebec and socialist government, solely has been responsible for the failure of Canadian business to succeed, on or near, the same level as our Southern cousins. It's understandable why Canadian business lack the initiative to succeed and also depend on government to bail them out. It has become part of Canadian culture to behave this way. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...7&articleId=197

CanoeIn fact, Canadians brew the beer on Canadian territrory and own parts of the companies that brew it. This is true "multiculturalism" or call it mutinationalism. Now then, why can't we receive bank services, buy cheese and milk and fly on airplanes the same way. What does this thread have to do with federal politics, outside of proving that Canada will 'soon be up the creek without a paddle' relating to the sellout of Canadian companies to foreign interest. These foreign takeovers will only streamline companies resulting in throwing more Canadians out of work and working for less wages. Is this supposed to be a good thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_owner...anies_of_Canada

If Harper is an internationalist, that means he is a traitor to Canada.

The English did not fail at assimilating French Quebec. They did not want to be assimilated. After the fall of Quebec City in 1759 and under British rule, the 65,000 French-speaking inhabitants of Quebec had a single aim - to retain their traditions, language and culture. You are totally wrong to assume, "no people voluntarily choose assimilation; it's always forced." I would assert, English Canadians in general, have voluntarily choose to be U.S. assimilated, as many Quebecers also have chosen that route, outside of language which they retain for political reasons and pure spite, stemming from the fact relating to their outright hatred of anything English. It would be an outright lie to suggest Quebecers have not been U.S. assimilated outside of their language. Thirty-three years of bilingualism have cost Canadian tax payers $700-Billion dollars, which is more than our national debt. http://www.languagefairness.com/Cost.php At the expense of running Canada like a 'banana republic' by corrupt French PM's, under the guise of emulating a democracy where the judiciary can also determine what can and cannot be legislated and then rubber stamped by our so called, self serving elected representatives.

The U.S. is the leader of modern day capitalism and defends all its allies under its capitalist umbrella. So it would be folly to say America's self interest (in Canada's position) are not Canada's self interest.

I think over decentralization has already destroyed the face and political federal importance of Ottawa. Can you imagine what Americans must be thinking when they find out Canadians send their tax returns to Shawinigan, Quebec. a little Northern Quebec bush town, rather that the Capital of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario. You are a true socialist Charles.

Nunavut, NWT and Yukon, considered as a unit, have lots of that. When the people aren't too drunk or besotted from gasoline sniffing to dance or sing that is. I'll second that, but the territories are not provinces and Native Canadian culture is not a mainstream culture of any of the 10 provinces. Neither is French a mainstream culture of any of (nine out of ten) provinces. In Canada our culture mimics the U.S. culture including Quebec, so back off with the BS and Quebec's language of 'New France' that has been obliterated since 1759. The only reason French is still alive in Quebec is because of the efforts of corrupt federal French politicians. Individual cultures pertaining to groups, are basically only relevant to those groups and that is providing they have the society that can support their culture, without the collective help of other cultures, (Canada at large) or the more precisely, the tax payers of Canada.

So they make a decision based on a stat. Aside from that, isn't there something called parenting? Why have children if you do not know how to properly raise them? Besides we have generous equalization and transfer payments the federal government provides to the provinces. If there is a problem with with social policies, it is a provincial responsibility to relocate more funds to the areas requiring attention, if in fact, a true problem exist. To correct any problem one must correctly identify what the root problem is initially and determine if it associated with public funding or not. http://www.fin.gc.ca/FEDPROV/eqpe.html http://www.fin.gc.ca/access/fedprove.html

Like I said previously, The British did not know what to do with Quebec. Their language and religion were not compatible with the British and that is the reason for the 'Quebec Act', let them co-exist among themselves. Why would they be considered refugees if they had fled back to France? The place was called New France prior to the British win on the 'Plains of Abraham'. The Quebec French elite that fled back to France were not considered refugees. They were forced to make compromises and if they felt that way initially, why did they even think about joining confederation? Why did they not stand on their own two feet, if they felt they constituted the status of a country? I think you have perfectly described the political ideologies of Quebec, with Quebec being the latter. You have that wrong. What you mean is, Quebec shares the same similarities and differences with CANADA as any other province would for the simple reason Quebec would not exist without the good fortune of being a province in Canada. No I am not trolling, I am serious, Quebec has been assimilated, as a group of refugees, many who think Quebec still belongs to France (the same problem Britain had) but continue to be in an advanced state if illusionary denial by thinking they are a legitimate French country, competing culturally with Canada. All Canadian provinces do have a distinct culture. But your right about not being able to face your arguments which to me, are actually fabricated arguments based on your false belief relating to Quebec importance, superiority and distinct culture, which in my mind do not exist. Quebec is technically still a province of French refugees (classified Canadian) unwilling to accept their true nature, relating to their political dilemma, making life in Canada pure hell. I can fully understand the federal governments position as what actually to do with the province of Quebec, which could very well result with millions of refugees on Canada's doorstep making Canada a true third world country. It is for this reason any form of debate with you cannot continue on my part, as you are not only mocking my thoughts and my factualities, but making a fool out of this entire forum and website as a biased Quebec propagandist.

What country are you talking about? The Germans occupied France and the French were under control by the German forces, unlike Quebec that was now an English colony with the left overs that did not flee back to France. They were refugees and political prisoners of the British and continued living their previous lifestyle as they were in no postion to do anything else, or fight to the death which they didn't do. Then why don't they have their own country? Why have they accepted being FORCED to live with the English? I don't have to leave North America, we have it ALL right here. All provinces are part of Canada and all provinces possess cultural distinctiveness, which is no reason to claim special rights because of it. All Quebec has to do is grow up and realize New France is gone forever.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't agree with the Charter. I think it is a total sham and an insult to Canadians. I consider the Charter relating to Quebec, totally corrupt and implemented by traitorous politicians. I have said this many times throughout this thread. Don't make me repeat myself by bringing up the same Quebec BS. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Nonsense. Jbg understood what I was talking about, and responded accordingly (although Louisiana doesn't quite work in this case because France sold it to the USA... Louisiana never 'chose' assimilation). FIATs are Italian. Using American technology is simply efficient (do you suppose they should opt for European sockets?! No one would do that in North America, no matter how different they considered themselves). French Canadians still have their own food, their own music... most remarkable aspects of culture. These people have not really been assimilated into mainstream culture for the most part. Quebec has not shut itself out from the outside North American English market, but freely chose to be assimilated into the English culture. But we all know what communist Quebec did to counter Quebec's population from voluntarily becoming overly English oriented with their 'officially French language' and the 'French Language Charter'. So don't say they did not chose assimilation because, they did. They liked the English culture and ALL it has to offer. To-day they copy cat English news productions, talk shows, game shows and even American movies and drive American made vehicles and boats and use and copycat American technology, eat American frozen meals and even dress like English Canadians and Americans and even have their own Canadian type socialist government, the Liberals and the Bloc. Anytime I go to Quebec, I don't hear Quebec teens listening to French music as their radios are tuned to English rock stations or copy cat French stations that play English rock. If Quebec and Quebecers were serious about there culture, yes, they would be using European (sockets) and driving Fiats and Italian car produced and driven in France along with Renault's and Peugeots and French music (no one listens to) and the wine and cheese they currently import from France. Make no mistake, the French want everything the English enjoy, but only keep their language to whip down the English in giving them more, for free that is, (culture of entitlement) in order to feed their insatiable appetite for power and glory and continue the battle of the 'Plains of Abraham' where France left off.

I guess your definition also fails to define the Québecers at the time of English colonization. They didn't take refuge in a foreign country (they stayed in their country because they were no longer French at this point), nor were they fleeing from war nor persecution nor natural disaster because none of such things were waiting for them anywhere. Nice try, but you failed to define Québecers as ever having been refugees. They did not stay in their country, for the simple reason it was no longer their country. What they were forced to stay in was a foreign land belonging to the English. Please understand that statement. The embarrassing fact (now that you are making nonsensical statements) is they had no place to go, they were foreign French refugees, trapped in a foreign land. They could not afford the voyage back to France like their elite leaders, who left them stranded and at the mercy of the British.

I do not know what your talking about. Are you trying to tell me Quebecers live like citizens of France. If you are, for instance, I don't see very many Fiats or Citroen's being driven on Quebec streets nor do I see exclusive French films but rather dubbed or English Hollywood productions. I don't see many French fast food outlets but certainly see all the popular English Canadian and American chains. Technology wise is the same mostly all translated American technical manuals. Any modern city in Quebec including the Outaouais, the French have been voluntarily assimilated to the English Canada-U.S. way of life (culture), including freely chosen bilingualism. The only component of the French culture Francophone's chose not to be fully assimilated is the French language which they keep primarily as a political tool. Without 'official languages act' and 'official multiculturalism act' you would have no Charter supporting Quebec cultural ideologies. Promotion would be definitely against individual constitutional rights, even more so that even with the imposed discriminatory Charter. The federal party who promoted bilingualism without some sort of official cause would be frowned upon by Canadians and never voted into power. They are not advancing it democratically. They are forcing it on you when they have no right to do that. The federal government of Canada must reflect views that democratically accommodates ALL Canadians and not just their BIASED view. The main brunt of the Charter is to forcefully and unilaterally and undemocratically (federally speaking) give Quebec special status, when BOTH the 'Charlottetown Accord' and the 'Meach Lake Accord' FAILED to do exactly that. A single point. A ethnic refugee stepping of the boat has the same rights as a native Canadian? You would have to be nuttier than I, to accept that. This can or could be interpreted in court to allow criminals to break the law, including terrorist or could be helpful to remove the full impact of charges against an alleged criminal. Don't make dumb assertions, Quebec never even signed our Constitution. Can you prove otherwise? The absence of counter-proof is enough proof for that statement (saying something never happened can only be assumed true until proved otherwise). Did the federal government send in the troops to stop Quebec from holding a referendum on separation???? Oh, I know. Nobody can stop Quebec from doing anything, but it would be unthinkable for a PM to implement a national referendum to boot troublesome, unity busting Quebec, out of confederation. This is how many civil wars are started. When the government does not do the right thing initially but rather buy time with 'official languages' and 'official multiculturalism' and the Charter (as is the case with Canada) and then sits back and wonder why all hell breaks loose. How would you know. The federal government never offered that opportunity to Canadians in the way of a national referendum, to see how Canadians actually felt Being able to partially communicate in English does not make one proficient in English, unless you are PERFECTLY BILINGUAL, which few Francophone's are. My hardcover Oxford dictionary says, pertaining to refugee: " a person taking refuge, esp. in a foreign country from war or persecution or natural disaster."