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If I have been dishonest, point out that dishonesty in those threads. Don't pathetically accuse me of it here with no evidence here. Even then, you bring up the "gay cake" as an example... a thread you mostly ran away from because I was tearing your arguments apart. So, what was the dishonesty on my part there? You speak of courage. Let me know when you start showing some. Instead of showing up here to accuse me of dishonesty with no specific examples, go back and face the bad arguments you were making and running away from.

No, no its not the same intent at all. The phrase get back into the kitchen is a common insulting and demeaning one. If what he said was so awful, then actually quote what he said. Inventing something he didn't say to make it sound worse is just that. The reason why you folks won't actually quote Butker and explain exactly why what he said is bad is because you can't. Even now, you do the same thing: You have to talk about what it "seems" he is saying, because he didn't actually say that.

And yet Trump conceded defeat and walked out of the Whitehouse at the end of his term as well... "Trump finally concedes Biden will become president" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/trump-for-first-time-acknowledges-new-administration-will-take-office-jan-20.html Trump did not summon a mob to attack the Capitol any more than Democrats were summoning the BLM mobs to burn down cities across America, loot, vandalize, attack LEO, and have an insurrection at the Whitehouse... Yes, Clinton literally said Trump was illegitimate and that he stole the election. Gore has also pushed the same crap since. Al Gore Tells Bill Maher That He Should Have Been President: ‘I Think I Carried Florida’ https://www.thedailybeast.com/al-gore-tells-bill-maher-that-he-won-the-2000-election-i-think-i-carried-florida

He should totally be showering with his daughters so they feel so uncomfortable about it they have to write about how it was probably inappropriate in their diary.... that is a girls place, in the shower with her father. You have no room to talk about much of anything. I bet you can't even describe what the definition of a woman is in any meaningful way either. LOL

Congratulations, you have now identified where he was identifying the people he spoke to in the part of his speech. No one is playing stupid here except you and others who repeatedly fail to show where he said anything you are accusing him of. I think I get it. You hate homemakers. You are the one who despises women who work full time to take care of their families and invest time into their well-being. Heaven forbid someone take a moment to celebrate those women who courageously take on such an important role. Where did he say they were scammed and should all want to be homemakers? So, you don't even know enough about your own wife's feelings to say anything about her publically, but you presume to know what Butker is thinking?

How exactly did he speak down to them? I don't presume to know anything about you and your wife other than what you just told me, but if you don't know how she feels, you need some better communication. Best of luck.

Calling you one? Be proud. Why spend all this time hiding what you are doing here. Is it because deep down you really know what Hamas did was wrong, but you want to support them without really thinking about that too much.

LOL, Gore Lost, get over it. Your selective recounting in an attempt to conspire against the government illegally failed. You are the ignorant one here, not me: Hillary Clinton calls Trump 'illegitimate president' https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/30/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-illegitimate-president-sot-ip-vpx.cnn 'You can have the election stolen from you,' Hillary Clinton warns 2020 Democrats https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/

Can you understand how the quote function works and see what I responded to?

No dupe here, and your petty name-calling doesn't make your ignorance on the subject or lies about it or your defacto support of Hamas any better.

So... you were being dishonest when you said you did not care about any of that.

The results do not back you up, at all.

An outright lie. Israel goes out of its way to drop leaflets, phone call, drop knockers, all to get civilians out of the area. There are exceptions for certain high priority targets, but Hamas operating from civilian infrastructure is on Hamas. They don't just have one random guy living in his apartment... they embed the bulk (if not all) of their military under civilian infrastructure, in it, or right next to it. They fire rockets from schools, they hide in Hospitals. Israel goes out of their way to minimize collateral damage, as evidenced by the bomb to death ratio. If they were leveling whole blocks full of people to kill one Hamas fighter, there would be 100 times more dead then there are.

Who said that? The post you responded to dit not assert that. I am glad you agree, though, that it is absurd to think Israel should have engaged in any peace with Hamas on day 2 just because they offered the Hostages.

The outcome is not pretty much assured at all. Here we are over 2 years later. Russia has suffered more losses, more losses to equipment, and are barely making any gains at all for the cost in manpower and equipment. So, what is your motivation? Why do you continue to push inaccurate assertions and things that might as well be Russian propaganda? The killing can end if Russia quits fighting and withdraws. Why do you not spend your time focused on demanding that? Condemning them? On wanting more support for Ukraine to force Russia's hand? Ukraine is fighting now.

Does he like his wife? Obviously, he appreciates her being a homemaker. Duh. He is telling these girls they can be homemakers too. Yes. Told them to return to the kitchen in some condescending way? Nope Told them to return to the kitchen at all? Nope. You can praise the fact that your wife is a homemaker and tell women they too can be successful as one... and not be telling them they have to be one or to get back into the kitchen as if it were condescending. Those negative things are what you are choosing to add to this, things he did not say. Clearly said: "Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world..."

Of course, he and the War Council refused. Israel is not a dictatorship. They now have a unity government with a war council containing the opposition leader. Hamas had just engaged in one of the most horrific terrorist attacks in modern history and one of the most significant attacks on Jews since the Holocaust. They raped, tortured, killed women & Children and took hostages. And you are here arguing Israel should have been like, OK, no big deal, just give us the Hostages back and all is good. That IS EXACTLY why Hamas takes hostages, to hide behind them. The get to commit the rape, torture, killings and get away with it because they also took hostages. The hostages were only half the demand, after what Hamas did, there is no more peace, there is only their destruction or surrender to prevent it from happening again.

It looks like you both are engaged in a racial slur exchange now...

What conclusion are you drawing from "wife, mother, vocation" other than those are words he said? More like you are saying: 3x3 = Purple Carrots. Can't you see that it is obviously Purple Carrots?!

OMG, LOL, it is amazing how predictable you folks are—every time. You have no room to talk about not accepting election results when you are here not accepting election results. No, she didn't. She has gone on to claim it was stolen several times now.

I see, you have to read into it and interpret it. No, it is your bias that is clearly the issue here. At least I can be honest about what the man actually said.

He did not speak for women. He did not say "we are wont to do." That was the quote from the person writing the op/ed for crying out loud. Of course she can speak for herself, just as a husband can praise his wife. Plenty of folks in the Catholic community have Homemakers and plenty of folks in the country choose to not have dual income families. You do not need to make millions to do so.

Which part was where he told women to return to the kitchen?

This is a bogus attempt to draw some moral equivalency here as if what Hamas did on October 7th was just some tit-for-tat. Israel targets military targets and tries to kill Hamas militants. Hamas invaded and raped women, tortured, and killed women and children, deliberately targeting innocent people to be slaughtered, and taking hostages as well. This is not some tit-for-tat strike. Hamas engages in a deliberate campaign of terror with the stated goal to kill Israelis and want to kill all the Jews.

No, I am just using your silly analogy to make it more accurate to what you are doing here. It bothers me that any country engages in a war of aggression to conquer another like Russia is doing. Russia is also a geopolitical foe, and it is in our strategic interest to oppose their aggression. We also have longstanding commitments to Ukraine I think we should honor. In general, as Super Power America is, I support doing what is reasonable to help promote freedom and stability around the globe from a moral and strategic standpoint. No, I do not fear a massive Russian Invasion at this time. I do fear Russia will continue onto other weaker nations and continue pushing where they can get away with it. I don't know what you are getting at with your question on Democracy. I recognize Russia for what they are, and how they work against us in the world and how they are a geopolitical foe to a great degree. No, I do not love Ukraine, but I value their role as being an independent country free from being conquered by Russia.