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He (and many others) was contrite in the day of sentencing, but no other day. Can't blame a guy for trying though?

Speaking of reality... Undocumented immigrants aren't eligible for "welfare systems such as food stamps." Many pay taxes and pay into these systems without being eligible to benefit from them. Argument sort of falls apart, no?

OFFS, yes, you twit. Of course they are two different things. That's why "sedition" is one word and "seditious conspiracy" is two words. The latter has a noun (conspiracy) that is described by an adjective (seditious). You seem to think that sedition REQUIRES a conspiracy. That's simply not the case. Sedition exists on its own as a noun just fine. Someone can be engaged in sedition. It could be used an adjective to describe many nouns. Seditious rant. Seditious literature. Seditious conspiracy. Seditious mob. This is how the English language works. Save yourself further embarrassment and look up the definition of sedition. (The speaking or writing of words that are likely to incite ordinary people to public disorder or insurrection.) Then decide whether you really want to keep arguing that the mob wasn't seditious. (You shouldn't. It's an asinine argument.)

There absolutely is a MAGA cult. A US President tried--in plain view of every American--to overturn an election loss and seize power. He made a lot of unfounded claims and excuses on the way to doing so, but ultimately that's what he did. Think about the gravity of that. How extreme and unimaginable it would have been just 10 years ago when Donald Trump was more appropriately cast as a reality TV star. Back then, if someone had told you that an American president would attempt a sort of coup to stay in power, you probably would have laughed. That was inconceivable. Something that only happened in failing or less developed countries. Yet here we are. Consider this: Among those who plan to vote for Trump, 71% feel that what he tells them is true — higher than the results for friends and family (63%), conservative media figures (56%) or religious leaders (42%). Isn't that remarkable? A lifelong huckster and fabulist, who has, beyond any question lied to you thousands of times, run scam businesses, stolen from his own charity, and been demonstrably untrustworthy in so many other ways, is more trusted than friends and family? People are sending him money like he's a televangelist--and in many ways he is. And what's even more amazing is that it wasn't just believing him in the heat of the moment when passions were high. Now, years later, after people like Giuliani and Sidney Powell have admitted in court that they lied--that they simply made the stuff up--you people still believe it. After FOX news behind-the-scenes emails plainly state they they knew they were lying to you, you still believe it. It boggles the mind. Politics would be saying that the Democrats have the wrong ideas and we need a Republican in the White House at all costs. A cult is saying that this one unsavory character is the primary source of truth, forgiving his assault on your democracy and all other transgressions, denying obvious wrongdoing and trying to put him back in power. That's not politics anymore. It's a straight up cult. If he had a compound on a farm somewhere, those people would be dressed in white robes drinking whatever kind of Kool-Aid he mixed up. Instead, he wants the White House.

Notice how you posted a definition of "seditious conspiracy" rather than "sedition" or "seditious"? Go look up the latter and get back to me. (This will no doubt result in you searching dictionary after dictionary for some way to salvage your argument.) Someone goading his neighbor toward overthrowing the government is indeed seditious.

I've never seen a mob that wasn't trying to recruit new members. This particular mob was full of people egging one another on to insurrection. This mob was full of people who were demonstrably engaged in sedition, on the streets, on social media, on videos taken that day. It was full of people shouting about 1776, and taking back the country and killing Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi. Not all mobs are seditious, but because the target was the US legislature, this one surely was. Sorry, you still can't manage to catch on. Enjoy obsessing about this phrase for several more years and spam posting it here.

Nobody's "hot" for illegal immigration. That's part of the We have a legal (and moral) obligation to process asylum seekers. And if we adhere to legal processes, it becomes legal immigration. And legal immigration is valuable. We have labor shortages in key industries across the country. Sure we have shortages of manual labor, but it's not only the unskilled who flee situations like what's happing in Venezuela. We also have shortages of skilled labor that we should be addressing. We have a shortage of nurses. We have a shortage of doctors. We have a shortage of teachers. There are programs in place to skill, upskill and reskill, but these haven't closed the gap. Let's get some H-1B style visas going, esp. for skilled asylum seekers.

Congrats. You've hit deplorable rock bottom.

For the same reason that e-verify isn't mandatory and why they rarely punish employers of illegal immigrants. Because their business interests are desperate for cheap labor, and because taking active steps to solve the problem would deprive them of a wedge issue to rile up the rubes. They have no interest in changing either of those factors.

AFAIK, you are the only person on the planet who thinks that sedition and insurrection are mutually exclusive. The rest of us already know they are wholly compatible. A person could be engaged in one, the other or both. And yes, it's only been 2.5 years. We expect it'll take you a while longer still to catch up.

Lol. You don't follow "truth," you follow your feelings. And it's a first class fool who believes his feelings over the hard data of the real world. You're boasting about what is, in essence, an inability and unwillingness to learn. That's not a recipe for survival. Like the Dodo bird, you're awkwardly stepping toward your own extinction.

Haven't had TV service for most of the last 15 years. Don't watch CNN and never have. And I don't worship anything. But I am capable of academic research and working to that standard. I am capable of finding, reading and understanding most original sources. You should try it sometime. How about this, instead crafting a search phrase designed solely to confirm your bias, why don't you try a general informational search? That way instead instructing Google to scrape up op-eds from bizarre outliers and weird sites you can survey the breadth of actual information.

? Oh my goodness. It's like a live laboratory experience to see if Trump is actually capable of learning. Every time he repeats this behavior the rat will get a bigger shock. Guess we'll see if there's a dollar limit to how much he likes defaming Carroll.

Sure you will.

No, I definitely think you are NOT debating. You're not equipped for it. I think you mostly come on a here to vent about your senses and feelings and shake your fist at the sky in impotent fury. Meanwhile, the modern, fact-based world moves on without you.

Justice is served. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. His scheming cost a lot of other people their freedom as well. He should get the longer sentence. Now we just have to wait for justice to be served to the creep who told the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."

Whatever dosage you're on now, you need to double it.

As before, we have NEVER come close to meeting any of the targets set for sufficiently slowing, let alone reversing climate change. It's like you're saying a fat guy's futile attempts to reverse his steady weight gain have all failed. Well, did he ever follow any of the diet and exercise targets that were prescribed? No? Well then of course nothing has changed. -- It's not that the efforts proved futile. It's that we've never made the prescribed effort.

Another solid rebuttal. ^^ If you've ever wondered what it's like to watch someone drown, folks, this is pretty much it. Look, you know from experience that you are not qualified to have any sort of debate. You have no command of the facts or theories. The solution to that isn't adding more layers of bluster and tantrum. Go spend that time educating yourself. The library. Reputable parts of the internet. Audit classes. You've got options.

?Don't forget to charge up your Rascal before you join the militia--preferably with renewable energy.

Dimwit, the cost of energy HAS NOT been driven up by any of our environmental policies. As has been explained to you with extreme patience many times: We are pumping oil out of the ground at record levels. Supply is plentiful. We are a net energy exporter, because in addition to record oil we're producing a crap ton of NG. We are producing plenty of energy. There is no domestic shortage to drive up costs. The addition of wind and solar is ON TOP of the record fossil fuel production. The contribution of renewables to the grid is increasing supply and LOWERING energy prices. The sale of EVs is increasing relative supply for oil and putting downward pressure on prices. You have very strong (and rude) opinions for someone who clearly knows nothing about even basic supply and demand.

Now you NOAA. (Apologies though, the lack of link was an oversight. I intended to cite it as usual.)

^^Happily destroying the habitability of the planet according to all scientific thinking. Yet, entirely lacking all self awareness, accuses others of a stream of sheer destruction. Again, a special kind of stupid to hear the scientific consensus and then just wave your hands claiming the opposite. Like going to 10 doctors, listening as 9 or 10 of them tell you that your cholesterol levels are killing you, and then eating a slab of bacon with a smile because some jackass on youtube says it's fine! It boggles the mind that you people haven't put your tongues in electrical outlets or drowned looking up at the rain. Inflation is not being driven by greening efforts. What part of that sentence confuses you? All of it?

Inflation is (almost) entirely unrelated to climate change. We have so little "green" efforts that it's economically negligible. Meanwhile, increasingly extreme weather will drive inflation. You're not even remotely fit to be calling anyone aimoron. Just a know-nothing chest beater proud to wallow in ignorance. It takes a special kind of stupid to look at nearly every scientific expert in the field and say, "Nah, I know better!"

On the contrary, all scientific evidence points to the fact that we have successfully changed the climate. It's neither dream nor fantasy, yet science follows where the data leads. We have never made a concerted effort sufficient to meet any target projected to reverse warming. In other words, we've never even tried. It's hard to gather any political will with you folks putting your heads in the sand and screaming about how the scientists are all wrong.