ExFlyer

I apologize for trying to have a discussion with you. You are right about everything. So smart, so knowledgeable, so worldly, so above me and others on this forum. I am humbled. Please do not wast your valuable time with me anymore, it is beneath you.

Your humour seems to have difficulty translating to print. I never said war of convenience, that was one of your buddies. Financing a was is being at war.

Nope. No pages. You are like my Wife, reads but does not comprehend

Nope, never changed my tune. My comments are and is about economic benefits.

What NATO boots??

Nope. All I said is that NATO and EU Countries benefit economically from weapons production. You certainly like to enrich. LOL

No side step. I have expressed my opinion several times, never waivered from them and stand by my comments. You don't like them? Sorry, but I really was not requesting, requiring or expecting approvals from you.

There has to be an "unknown animal chain"? OK, is is known or unknown?? A secret lab?? Where is that? The one in Winnipeg that threw out 2 Chinese scientist and we still do not know why? What was going on in that "secret lab"? "new undisclosed evidence"? OK, what is that? New? Undisclosed? I will fully accept all "facts" and "evidence" presented but your comments about "secret", undisclosed" and "unknown" only indicates you have no facts or evidence..

Another US "department" with their "intelligence".

So, where are you going to place those resources, sufficient medical services, housing etc to accommodate? Are you implying that immigrants and refugees be forced to go to the places you have planned?

Well, flip your bird. It does nothing and proves even less. There is nothing incorrect about what I said. Just because you don't like it, does not make it wrong. You don't have to be on the front to be in the war. Clearly NATO and European Union countries are fully immersed in the war in the Ukraine. They could not care less about your bird or any other animal you want to flip.

Maybe OK for you? I said the war is good for the countries that are helping Ukraine with their manufacture of munitions. We don't manufacture so, it does not help our economy. Face the facts, war is always an economic boon for any country that manufactures munitions and equipment. Be it during WWI or today and all conflicts in between. Is it OK? That opinion up to you.

What I didn't say was that it was a war of convenience. It does have coincidental advantages for some countries though. I have said many times it is beneficial to many countries, especially the US. I have said that munitions plants are now in full production to replenish the stock the US has government away. The US gave away a lot of what will be time expired stock so, it needs new stuff.

Yes, and I stand by what I said. I did not say I agree with your statement of " So...it is a war of convenience? " although I would not argue the statement. It does have merit. Does the war help the world economy? Probably not but certainly does not hurt the economies of the countries helping Ukraine. (Canada excepted as we do not manufacture, we buy form elsewhere and give to Ukraine) I did give reasons.

OK for sure, me to. It's all about the facts That is why I am not fully buying into the Myata posts.

You are close to being correct. Not every state but many of them for sure. And the more the US gives, the more they deplete their own stockpile (often time expired munitions), the factories are workings to restock. This is good for their economy.

Why is it clueless? Do you think that the munitions and weapons factories are not working to restock US supplies that they have given to the Ukraine? Do you think most Americans were aware or knew anything about in Eastern Europe before the Russians invaded?

WTF??? Sit down, take several deep breaths, close your eyes, relax.

Point was and is, my comment about the 2 Chinese scientists has as much conjecture and theory as the topic writers post. Shipping corona virus?? I have no idea. I just made that up to point out one theory is as good as another and without proof, it is just a theory..

Whoa... I didn't say that Although the American public now knows where Ukraine is and all those states making weapons and ammunition and war supplies are now working full tilt.

This is not an American court. There is no conviction for "beyond reasonable doubt" in world court. Everything you have said is in the "domain of possibility" but none of it is established fact. Anyone can "make conclusions" on suspicion or hearsay but none of it is positive proof enough for anything. Like I said, l am not in any way a friend of or defending China, as I see them a bigger threat that the USSR ever was but, I am also not one that throws accusations around before all evidence has established indisputable facts. Remember the 2 Chinese scientists that were thrown out of Canada in 2019? The ones that worked in the infectious disease lab in Winnipeg? Maybe they carried the virus from Winnipeg to China??

What truth?? There are only theories. No proof, just accusations and conjecture from Americans. What I am saying , and said from the beginning, is that without corroboration from China, no one has anything concrete and I am pretty sure China will not incriminate itself. As for caring, making this about me is a clear waste of effort. Then again, there are clearly a half dozen here on this forum obsessed with it but hey, y'all can live in your paranoid world wearing your tin foil hats. LOL

Please do. Some democrats take on the lab leak theory? Or some republicans take on the proven lab leak?? Doh. My point in this discussion is not to validate either side but to say, the Americans seem to be the only ones that care anymore and that is probably (my opinion) to deflect from their insufferable internal problems.

Democrats and hypocricy about what? Hypocricy: the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. So, hypocrisy about covid?? Isn't it the republicans that are still on about this?? It really is only the Americans, in general , that are still on this. The world has moved on or is moving on. Bottom line, if it was China, so what? What will be the consequences? I suggest nothing. The world has so become dependant on China and it's manufacturing prowess, all things will remain the same. And, fella?? Huh? This discussion getting to you?

Americans need a war or conflict every 10 years or so to replenish expire or soon to be expires stock (and to teach Americans geography LOL). It is good for their military supply chain and even more so for their economy.