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Kamala seems to be slightly underperforming Biden’s 2020 results in most counties. Still a close race but she needs those large urban centre votes to come in , which always take all night to count.

1) A recount was required by law because the vote was so close it wasn’t because of Gore 2) Florida election law EXPLICITLY STATES that either party can request a hand recount in any counties of their choosing 3) You have it mixed up: it was Gore who wanted all counties to follow the same counting rules 4) The Florida supreme court agreed with Gore. Bush won on appeal to US Supreme Court and even then the cote was split 5-4 so it’s not like Gores arguments were without merit like Trumps bogus garbage lawsuits that the courts wouldn’t even hear because they were so baseless. Not a loophole for the reasons explained above. You’re the only one looking dumb. Should he have requested a recount that would benefit Bush???? A recount only confirms the votes were counted correctly amd none were missing l. The law EXPLICITLY SAYS either party can request any county of their choosing and Bush had the ability to request recounts of his own The lawsuit was actually over whether Florida had the authority to stop the hand recount before it finished, which is what happened in the end. Ya done looking dumb yet? Oh and Bush wanted military mail-in ballots counted even if they were postmarked after the deadline because he expected they would be mostly military and benefit him…total opposite of what Republicans CLAIM to believe today False. Did you even read you your own copy-paste? It has nothing to do with your claim. How does recounting by hand benefit him? Unless you’re admitting that an accurate count would benefit him? Not after exhausting “all legal actions”. There was ONE lawsuit over ONE issue that is EXPLICITLY ALLOWED IN FLORIDA LAW. Meanwhile Trump tried countless failed actions with no legal or factual basis at all, filled with made-up nonsense mumbo-jumbo arguments and fabricated claims. Pfffft. What are you talking about. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim that : 1) candidates normally concede and congratulate before networks officially predict a winner when the race is close 2) Hillary waiting for the official results before conceding and congratulating the same as Trump refusing to concede for 3 months while attempting to steal the election and then refusing to congratulate? because those would both be more ridiculous claims on your part I stayed up until 2am for the 2016 election and still the networks had not called for Trump. It was the one of the closest elections in recent history. Candidates concede when they realize the path to victory is no longer mathematically possible.

What do you mean? Put your glasses on there’s hyperlinked text in every one of those statements . Its not, that why that statement is separated and under a different line. Typical authoritarian thug move. Imagine your reaction if Kamala banned Fox and WSJ because they said not nice things about her. First of all she posted a fake map showing Trump was winning in the vote count in the middle of election day when polls are still open were open no votes counted. Second the polls have shown the election is too close to call It shows these happen in US elections including in dem polling stations. Like I said whenever there’s a snafu affecting a republican polling station if it’s just a 10-second hiccup you guys scream conspiracy. We all know the Republican fake news is going to run a cherry/picked list of only snafus in republican districts to try and push their conspiracy crap so Im going on record to show these happen in democratic districts too it’s part of every election…..except doe the bomb threats that’s a new Russian/MAGA contribution

False.

Forging fake elector certificates is not a legal option Pressuring elections officials and lawmakers to fake their vote counts and back his fake elector certificates is not a legal option Pressuring the Vice President to violate his constitutional duty to certify the vote count is not a legal option Knowingly filing dozens of fraudulent baseless lawsuits that are filled with lies and fail to meet even the basic legal standards of a lawsuit is not a legal option Orchestrating the Jan 6 insurrection to try and prevent the election certification on its constitutionally required date is not a legal option

That is a lie, he did not try to steal the election that’s a fact. He dis not asked to be named President like Trump did, he simply asked for hand recounts as explicitly provided for in Florida election law. And he conceded SAME DAY as the USSC decision, not 2 months after it…which was barely 1 month after the election itself. He did not try to overturn the results, unlike Trump. He did not try to convince Americans that there was a vast conspiracy and the country and its institutions are corrupt to core at every level of society, unlike Trump. Gore repeatedly said he respected the court’s decision while he personally disagreed with it, unlike Trump. And he didn’t “continue on” with it, he said he piece briefly then gracefully stepped aside, unlike the past 4 years of Trump shrieking his election lies 24-7 trying yo create as much chaos as possible. He “would have won” if the entire state of Florida had been manually recounted that is a fact. But he didn’t request that. Saying a football team “would have won” if they had decided to kick a field goal instead of going for a touchdown and failing is not the same as saying the game is rigged and they shouhave won. Too bad you’re such Ive said all of this countless times to you and you just mindlessly repeat the same ridiculous talking points over and over like a brain-damaged troll. Then you go “I won you ran away” when people get sick of repeating the same points to you time and again.

Just because Republicans are going to claim every minor SNAFU is undeniable evidence of Democrat election fraud, let’s document today’s facts that conveniently favour Republicans Michigan Polling Place in District that voted Biden-Harris in 2020 Forced to Close due to conveniently timed gas leak A polling place in the swing state of Michigan was closed Tuesday afternoon following reports of a natural gas leak, according to the Associated Press. Voters were sent to different area precincts to cast their ballots. Georgia Polling Place in District that voted Biden-Harris in 2020 Evacuated Due to Bomb Threat A polling location in the suburban Atlanta area of Gwinnett County was closed for about an hour Tuesday afternoon due to a non-credible bomb threat Arizona Voters in Democrat-leaning Native District Turned Away A county in the swing state of Arizona that houses the Navajo Nation and the Fort Apache Indian Reservation is experiencing hours-long wait times at the polls and some voters were turned away Tuesday due to issues with faulty voting machines Florida GOP Congresswoman shares Fake Election News to Mislead Voters Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., on Tuesday shared a graphic showing Trump as the projected electoral college winner that misinformation tracking company Alethea told The Washington Post is meant to “preemptively cast doubt on election results in the event that former President Trump loses.” MAGA Trumptard Accidentally Starts Seditious Jan 6 Insurrection Assault on Capitol 2 Months Early A man who was stopped during the security screening process at the Capitol Visitor Center "smelled like fuel" and was in possession of a torch, flare gun and two containers that smelled like gasoline, U.S. Capitol Police said Tuesday. Russia Linked To Bomb Threats in Majority Black District Bomb threats that temporarily closed two polling places in a majority Black district in the swing state of Georgia were "of Russian origin," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) said, adding, "They’re up to mischief, it seems, and they don’t want us to have a smooth, fair and accurate election." Russia Paid Pro-Trump Influencer Who Spread Viral Lies on Social Media A pro-Trump social media influencer (who uses the @AlphaFox78 handle on X) said he was paid multiple times by a Russian propagandist to post a fake video about the election that spread lies about voter fraud. And like a true authoritarian crook Trump Blocks Reporter Access Reporters from multiple news outlets were denied credentials or had their credentials revoked for Trump's election night event in West Palm Beach, Florida. The denials came after the outlets published critical coverage of the former president.

Yeah I suspect the Canadian upgrade will be like 2A8 but without the APS Who knows, we once did a turret swap on the old Leo1s when they got their life extension upgrade and replaced their 1A3 turrets with 1A5s so maybe the leo 2s will eventually get theirs some day The 2A7+ suspension is apparently specifically tuned to urban operations to allow for tighter maneuvering in city streets and crashing through/over things like cars and barricades, supposedly that type of suspension is less ideal for traditional tank warfare in open terrain which is why I suspect it’s not in the menu for the Canadian upgrade.

Ironically (or perhaps not) Asterix lease has been an extremely successful procurement, on time, on budget and never missing a day of service and has received many accolades from allies. She has a sister ship, the MV Obelix. I would love for the RCN to buy them both, perhaps partly because The Adventures of Asterix and Obelix was my favourite comic book series growing up. But they are civilian ships, not purpose-built military vessels so there will always be some limitations, apparently. Plus the JSS will have light sealift capability, which may or may not be an advantage…we will have to see how well that works out in real life. Some worry mixing replenishment and sealift roles will result in it not being ideal for either.

New $6-billion Arctic radar will track incoming missiles, says Canadian military The system, which is set to be operational in 2033, will provide missile tracking and other data to NORAD. Get the latest from David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen straight to your inbox Published Nov 04, 2024 • Last updated 11 hours ago • 3 minute read The Canadian military said a new Arctic radar system will detect missiles. Pictured here is the North Warning System in Cambridge Bay, Nunavut. Photo by David Pugliese/POSTMEDIA A new $6-billion radar system planned for the Arctic will be focused on tracking incoming missiles as Canada seeks to reassure the United States it is doing its part to defend North America. Almost 20 years ago, the Canadian government rejected establishing a missile radar warning system on the east coast that would feed into the Pentagon’s missile defence system. But earlier this year defence industry representatives in Ottawa were given a briefing on a new system being planned that would provide missile tracking and other data to the North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD). The Polar-Over-the-Horizon Radar will be “optimized to detect missiles,” but will also track additional aerospace and maritime objects, defence company representatives were told at the April 3 briefing. NORAD, in particular, has expressed its concern over cruise missiles. The radar system was announced with other initiatives in June 2022 as part of the Liberal government’s NORAD modernization plan, but few details were provided. The industry briefing, however, noted that the system will “operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week continuously with limited shutdowns for scheduled maintenance.” The cost estimate, at this time, is between $4 billion and $6 billion, according to the briefing. The system is expected to be fully operational in 2033. But large-scale and highly technical Canadian defence projects have a track record of going over budget and falling behind schedule. Evening Update The Ottawa Citizen’s best journalism, delivered directly to your inbox by 7 p.m. on weekdays. By signing up you consent to receive the above newsletter from Postmedia Network Inc. When originally announced, the government noted that the Polar-Over-the-Horizon Radar will “provide early warning radar coverage over and beyond the northernmost approaches to North America, including the Canadian Arctic Archipelago.” Defence industry representatives were told at the April 3 briefing that Defence Research and Development Canada would now be involved in site testing as well as computer-based modelling and simulation for the project. In addition, a project team of five military officers and three contractors has been created to begin the initiative, according to the briefing. Actual construction of the radars would begin in 2030, according to other Department of National Defence documents obtained by the Ottawa Citizen using the Access to Information Act. The U.S. Department of Commerce has also highlighted to American companies the Polar Over-the-Horizon Radar system as well as other Canadian procurements, noting they present opportunities for U.S. firms. National Defence spokesman Kened Sadiku noted in an email statement to the Ottawa Citizen that the polar radar program was scheduled to enter what was called a definition period in 2029. That involves defence officials validating project costs and preparing a management plan. “We look forward to sharing more information about those initiatives as details become available,” Sadiku added in his email. He did not explain why National Defence was not making available the same information to the public that it had provided to U.S. and Canadian companies. National Defence has faced criticism over what some see as the growing secrecy over big-ticket military procurements. Industry executives have previously pointed out that the secrecy is not based on security concerns, but on worries the news media and opposition MPs would be able to use the information to keep close tabs on the problem-plagued military procurement system. The Liberal government has been under intense pressure from the U.S. to boost defence spending. Last year, the Liberals announced more than $30 billion in new projects, with much of that going to U.S. firms. But that has prompted frustration among some domestic aerospace and defence companies that the Liberal government has been passing over Canadian technology, instead opting for foreign systems. The Canadian Forces is planning other new radar projects to feed information into NORAD. An over-the-horizon radar or OTHR, worth up to $3 billion, will be built somewhere in Ontario, according to the federal government. The decision on where to locate that radar has fallen behind schedule as the specific location was supposed to be determined earlier this year. But now the Department of National Defence says it doesn’t have a specific timeline for the decision on where the radars will be located. Sadiku, however, says there is no change expected to the initial timeline associated with this project. Defence officials say they are still confident the radar will be ready by 2028. https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-6-billion-arctic-radar-will-track-incoming-missiles-says-canadian-military

How many times does this need to he repeated Not at all the same -Recount was required by Florida law, not Gore -Florida law says either party can request hand recounts in any district of their choosing so that’s what Gore did -When Jeb Bush tried to interfere with the requested count Gore sued and won i Florida court -Jeb Bush appealed to USSC and prevailed, Gore conceded immediately, congratulating W Bush amd attended his inauguration Another of your lies. The election was called for Trump at 2:30am ET on November 9. Hillary made her concession speech CONGRATULATING TRUMP at 11:40 am ET that same morning. And she called him personally to congratulate as well and attended his inauguration. You trump apologists are hilarious for pretending completely different things are identical and practically identical things are completely different: Trump’s 2020 election theft attempt is exactly like Clinton and Gore non-theft attempt; Suggesting Trump should pay for his own private security is exactly like calling for him to be assassinated; …yet calling someone a Marxist in no way resembles calling someone a communist or a socialist or Marxist-Leninist: Calling Puerto Rico an island of garbage in no way resembles calling Puerto Ricans garbage Trump tweeting out AI deepfakes of Taylor Swift endorsing him in now way resembles Trump tweeting out AI deepfakes of Taylor Swift endorsing him And so on

- I don’t think anyone ever said Reagan won because of his Iran hostage collusion, people just point out what a detestable scumbag he was for doing it. - Ditto Bush Sr. andWillie Horton - 2016: nobody said the vote was rigged they just pointed out correctly that Putin was helping Trump and and Trump knew about it and the Trump campaign had secret communication with Russia ab it. TBH James Comey and the FBI did as much as Putin to turn American voters against Hillary But otherwise that list is more or less correct

You are belabouring a ridiculous point. Officially conceding only after 2 months of trying to steal the election failed and he had no other options. Then continuing to repeat his lies and admitting he regrets conceding and clearly trying to do it again this election Your argument is no different than saying a criminal is a only guilty of ATTEMPTED murder. You and I and everyone else knows he will try to steal the election again if he doesn’t win it and his 2020 election steal attempts will seem like child’s play this time. There will be chaos, there will probably be more MAGA violence if he loses

I actively was trying to say he’s “not going to concede” but that damn autocomplete strikes again.

Hilary Clinton conceded defeat on election night, didn’t launch lawsuits and schemes to overturn the election results, didn’t assault the Capitol and didn’t question the integrity of the vote count. You can’t compare that with Trump’s 2020 coup attempt and 4 years of divisive toxic lies about an election he legitimately lost. That’s just MAGA propaganda. Whether J6 or other riots, Some rioters received minor charges and light punishments. Some received serious charges harsher punishments. The democrats don’t control the charges or the verdict or the sentencing. People are charged convicted and sentenced based on their alleged individual actions and the evidence against them. Link please

I am not lying about anything and you’re getting mixed up because I never said on this thread he didn’t concede. Again you are glossing over and ignoring all the relevant facts as if it’s completely irrelevant that during the preceding the 2 months he tried numerous schemes to steal the election, assaulting the Capitol, and the fact he officially conceded only the day after the assault when the entire nation was in shock and his allies had a temporary moment of doubt. Furthermore your entire claim that he won’t try it again despite all evidence to the contrary is based exclusively on the that he failed the first time so learned his lesson (or will try and fail again which means it’s ok) Meanwhile, inconveniently for you, Trump just gave a speech at a his latest hate-fest rally where he said “he never should have left” the white house after the 2020 election. He also made a lot of other fascist comments like saying he wouldn’t mind if an assassin shot the reporters standing in front of him. Literally every time this man steps in front of a microphone he channels the worst villains of 20th century history. As everyone predicted, election 2024 is quickly shaping a choice between a MAGA dictatorship or a MAGA terrorist uprising. America is fuked either way.

LOL no it’s not that simple Facts matter no matter how badly you want to gloss over them You whole “No harm no foul” argument is stupid It’s like you’re saying if I shoot at someone and miss I didn’t commit a crime and nobody should judge me for it, right? Even when people see I’m clearly preparing to try a second time they should be like “he didn’t succeed last time so nothing to worry about!” Your argument is Ridiculous.

But then immediately afterwards went back to saying the election was feasible and immediately after condemning J6 as a “heinous attack “ he immediately started calling the attacker political prisoners and peaceful protestors. Trump will say anything and often contradicts himself, just like with COVID or Putin, That way followers can pick whatever version of reality they find convenient at the moment.

Pfft…2 months after the vote count was tallied and only on the day after his attack on the Capitol and fake elector scheme failed, along with his 60+ bogus fraudulent lawsuits and numerous attempts to pressure election officials and lawmakers to falsify the results. In other words when he was out of options and out of money But then he immediately went right back to claiming the election was rigged and that he actually won and boycotted Biden’s inauguration. And he continues to repeat his stolen election conspiracy lies to this very day despite the irreparable harm they’re causing to America to democracy. We all know he’s not simply going to accept the official vote count as presented and immediately concede if he loses

My understanding is that any leopard 2 can be upgraded to the latest variant, thus I believe once completed the 2A6M CAN C2 should hopefully be equivalent to the latest leopard, with the exception of any active protection systems incorporated into 2A8 as the linked article didn’t mention those. The 2A7+ is specifically designed for urban combat and counter-insurgency so the Canadian leos I’m guessing will be more like 2a8

And they’ll lose again because the law explicitly allows them to accept absentee ballots in person and the Republicans know their fake lawsuit has no basis. It’s just lawfare preparing the groundwork for another round baseless stolen election lies. I’m f Trump can’t have the country he’ll destroy it so nobody can.

Lawsuit rejected because its just another Republican LIE. There will dozens if not hundreds of Republican lies over the next several days in order as they continue undermine democracy and the MAGA supporters will believe every single one of them Georgia judge rejects GOP lawsuit trying to block counties from accepting hand-returned mail ballots ATLANTA (AP) — A Georgia judge on Saturday rejected a Republican lawsuit trying to block counties from opening election offices on Saturday and Sunday to let voters hand in their mail ballots in person. The lawsuit only named Fulton County, a Democratic stronghold that includes most of the city of Atlanta and is home to 11% of the state’s voters. But other populous counties that tend to vote for Democrats also announced election offices would open over the weekend to allow hand return of absentee ballots. Fulton County spokesperson Jessica Corbitt-Dominguez said 105 ballots were received Saturday at the four locations in that county. …. But state law says voters can deliver their absentee ballots in person to county election offices until the close of polls at 7 p.m. on Election Day. Despite that clear wording, lawyer Alex Kaufman initially claimed in an emergency hearing Saturday that voters aren’t allowed to hand-deliver absentee ballots that were mailed to them. Kaufman then argued that voters should be blocked from hand-delivering their ballots between the close of early in-person voting on Friday and the beginning of Election Day on Tuesday, even though he said it was fine for ballots to arrive by mail during that period. It has long been the practice for Georgia election offices to accept mail ballots over the counter. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Kevin Farmer, in an online hearing, repeatedly rejected Kaufman’s arguments before orally ruling against him. “I find that it is not a violation of those two code sections for a voter to hand-return their absentee ballots,” Farmer said. … https://apnews.com/article/georgia-fulton-county-voting-elections-republican-aecacf60270810060469f988ff8f7b9b

Is that supposed to make things better? You’re saying he’s such an extreme narcissist he can’t accept reality. It’s like pleasing not guilty by reason of mental incompetence. Also we know Trump lies constantly and is completely indifferent to the truth. He’s not even capable of processing information according to whether it’s true or untrue. He only cares about whether it’s useful to him or not. So while the unhinged narcissist explanation you’ve provided is very accurate and highly plausible, it’s also likely he wouldn’t have done anything differently even if he actually knew he had lost.

Lol it won’t flourish when his import tariffs drive up the price of everything. Financial markets are already beginning to price in massive inflation should trump win. Elon musk. Even Trump backer Elon Musk is promising American ls will experience “temporary hardship” when Trump tears down the country in order to rebuild it in his image. Of course it won’t be hardship for either of those 2 billionaires and they’re pretty vague about how long they mean by “temporary” for everyone else. Their schtick is the typical religious BS that those who suffer now will enter some vaguely described paradise at some indeterminate future date.