BeaverFever

Ukraine was not “attacking the eastern regions of Ukraine” You’re being the plank if you can’t understand that its been Russia attacking the eastern regions of Ukraine this whole time since 2014. Stop with your lies pretending that Russian mercenaries and Moscow-backed terrorist groups are poor defenceless civilians.

Yeah the pointless FBI investigation into Hillary’s emails cost her the 2016 election but go ahead and believe the lies from your criminal cult leader Trump and the murderous dictator Putin

1) Hey. dum-dum: You’re probably not even aware that you’re pulling the old bait and switch again. As usual you’re so lost and confused in your MAGA fever swamp you don’t realize when you’re mixing up 2 different things. To recap: in your first post you LIED and said he didn’t know DNC Was as HACKED when in fact he precisely and unmistakably said they were Hacked and that they saw and recognized 2 known Russian military intelligence hackers active on the network in real time. Now in your rebuttal you’re quoting a section where he said he couldn’t positively confirm that said hackers exfiltrated the emails in question. Even an ignorant high school dropout like you should be able to understand those are 2 completely different things right dum-dum ? I honestly can’t tell whether you’re legitimately confused on these 2 completely different points or if you’re deliberately trying to confuse others. 2) Secondly: even though he testified he did not witness the data being exfiltrated by the Russians he stated that in his expert opinion there is enough evidence for him to believe that is the case. It may come as shock to simpletons like yourself but not a single judge or jury has ever witnessed a criminal actually committing the crime their accused of. They make their determination based on review of the evidence. 3) So is Hillary hiding info from the FBI or collaborating with them? Please get your story straight. You’re trying to tell it both ways. 4) Hilarious that you you demand an insurmountable amount of evidence to prove Russia hacked Hillary but then you put out this absolute ZERO EVIDENCE claim that a Bernie supporter did it without leaving a trace and suddenly evidence doesn’t matter you just know it’s true based on your gut instinct and that should be good enough for anyone. You’re such a hypocrite .

He’s not wrong, an Ethiopian would rightly be offended.

Yeah I’m sure all those Russian Putin critics poisoned themselves and pushed themselves out of windows. And yeah everyone knows that if you do anything that requires “funds” it means you’re corrupt. So this whole defending themselves from invasion thing must be a giant scam. Borders defend themselves for free why would they need “funds”?

“Ignored any notions of peace” by not allowing the Russians to overrun his entire country. Yes, you are ridiculous

Bullshit you have plenty of affinity for Russia and Putin. How come you don’t ever criticize his invasion or have an insulting nickname for him? What is your point about Zelensky that if he wasn’t a “nazi” he’d rather surrender to the Russians and their Nazis than defend his country with a small handful of neo-nazis in his ranks? Ridiculous. You’re a Kremlin sympathizer through and through and nobody believes your lies about your fake neutrality and interest in peace

Yea you’re timeight most FOOLS believe Ukraine “provoked” Russia but their gullibility is what makes them fools. Zelensky doesn’t “employ” any more “Nazis” than Putin does or than Trump did, or any other world leader. Sadly neo Nazis are in every country’s military. Russian neo nazos support Putin. American neo-nazis support Trump. Putin’s Secret Neo-Nazi Armies | Decade of Hate Pro-Kremlin neo-Nazi militia inciting the torture and murder of Ukrainian prisoners A neo-Nazi pro-Kremlin group active in Ukraine is inciting atrocities against prisoners of war and explicitly advocates the torture of captives including “removing body parts”. The self-styled “Task Force Rusich” is fighting in Ukraine on behalf of the Kremlin and is linked to the notorious Wagner Group mercenaries. A message on Rusich’s Telegram channel sent on 22 September advocates the “destruction of prisoners on the spot”. A spokesman for Tech Against Terrorism“, a London-based initiative supported by the United Nations, said: “Rusich, an openly neo-Nazi group highly likely operating on behalf of the Kremlin, has promoted the commission of war crimes in the conflict.…. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/pro-kremlin-neo-nazi-militia-inciting-torture-murder-ukrainian-prisoners Russia's long history of neo-Nazis Dr Robert Horvath, Senior Lecturer at La Trobe University Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraine’s 2019 parliamentary elections, far less than in most of Europe. Others have drawn attention to Ukraine’s Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and the efforts of the Ukrainian state to protect minorities like Crimean Tatarsand LGBTQ+ people, who are subject to brutal persecution in Russia. What has received less coverage is the Putin regime’s own record of collaboration with far-right extremists. Even as Russian diplomats condemned “fascists” in the Baltic states and Kremlin propagandists railed against imaginary “Ukronazis” in power in Kyiv, the Russian state was cultivating its own homegrown Nazis. The roots of neo-Nazism in Putin’s Russia The origins of this relationship date to the late 1990s, when Russia was shaken by a wave of racist violence committed by neo-Nazi skinhead gangs. After Putin’s accession to the presidency in 2000, his regime exploited this development in two ways. First, it used the neo-Nazi threat to justify the adoption of anti-extremism legislation, a longstanding demand of some Russian liberals. Ultimately, this legislation would be used to prosecute Russian democrats. Second, the Kremlin launched “managed nationalism”, an attempt to co-opt and mobilise radical nationalist militants, including neo-Nazis, as a counterweight to an emerging anti-Putin coalition of democrats and leftist radicals.…. https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis Putin Doesn’t Combat Nazism, He Cultivates It By Fiona Ballentine 01 Jun 2022 On its face, Putin’s slander is farcical, not least because Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is Jewish, and members of his family were killed during World War II. There is also no proof of mass killings or ethnic purges undertaken by the Ukrainian government. Marking adversaries as Nazis is a typical political tactic in Russia, particularly as leaders benefit from disinformation crusades.…. The Wagner Group is named after 19th century German composer Richard Wagner, whose music Adolf Hitler adored. In a photo that first emerged on Russian VK accounts and a Telegram group associated with the mercenaries, the group’s leader, Dmitry Utkin, dons neo-Nazi tattoos, including a swastika, Waffen SS lightning bolts, and a Reichsadler Eagle. Wagner mercenaries have reportedly left behind neo-Nazi propaganda in the conflict zones they have meddled in. In Libya, pictures appeared of Wagner combatants, some garbed in German World War II uniforms, purportedly re-enacting scenes from Rommel’s operation against British troops in Libya in 1942. The Wagner Group been heavily involved in Russia’s protracted war on Ukraine. Its units aided Putin’s illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 and rebelled alongside pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine. They have also been operating in the present conflict, with dozens of Wagner mercenaries pulled from the Central African Republic to join Russian forces amassing in Ukraine. There is also the neo-Nazi, white supremacist group the Russian Imperial Movement (RIM), which the U.S. State Department designated a terrorist organisation in 2020. With the Kremlin’s implicit authorisation, the RIM operates paramilitary camps near St. Petersburg, in which neo-Nazis and white supremacists from across Europe are instructed in terrorist tactics. Putin also utilises neo-Nazi organisations beyond warfare operations. An essential element of the Kremlin’s crusade to manipulate cracks in the West is exploiting transnational white supremacist movements to endorse racially and ethnically inspired violent extremism. Russia serves as a sanctuary and networking hub for far-right extremists, with one of America’s most infamous neo-Nazis finding refuge there. Rinaldo Nazzaro, leader of The Base, an American neo-Nazi, white supremacist paramilitary organisation, lives in Russia and guides the group from St. Petersburg… https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/putin-doesnt-combat-nazism-he-cultivates-it/

With every breath you take. Demanding they surrender to Russia unconditionally. Blaming them for “provoking” Putin’s crimes. Refusing to criticize anything Russia does including invasion which you refuse to call unjustified. Baseless accusations of Zelensky being a “Jewish Nazi”

You’re wasting your breath. The beliefs of the Deplorables are not based on any consideration of “evidence”. @WestCanMan started his own “election fraud” hysteria thread within hours of Trumps loss, long before any of this Hunter Biden Twitter nonsense or any other bogus wrongdoing claims were available for him to have considered. He worships Trump and that is all there is to it. TWO YEARS LATER AND STILL HAVING ZERO EVIDENCE hasn’t swayed him. It is the way of the crazed zealot. A fee years from now you might find him on a street corner, beard down to his knees, screaming at the clouds about the conspiracy.

That is an absolute lie. He testified that it absolutely WAS hacked by Russian intelligence. You’ve been busted telling this lie before: Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24: HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,a nd looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. …Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.” https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

Great point how can someone call themself @Nationalistwhen they don’t even believe that a nation has the right to defend itself from foreign military invasion? Some nationalist!

“Obviously“ meaning not at all lol ”Obviously” meaning “Putin’s propagandists said it so it must be true ”Obviously” meaning he’s Jewish so obviously he’s a Nazi You are hilarious And the book-banning Republicans seem to have a bigger penchant for silencing people…Elon seems to enjoy wielding the ban-hammer as well. Putin throwing his critics out of high rise windows is higher too. And them theres the whole insurrection thing, which was Hitler’s failed Beer Hall Putsch redux

I’m not confused about anything. But you clearly are.

Zelinsky and Dorsey now promoted from “secret Nazi” to “known Nazi”. LMAO

Not ringing a bell? How about this? MARCH 28, 20178:54 AMUPDATED 6 YEARS AGO Trump signs order dismantling Obama-era climate policies By Valerie Volcovici, Jeff Mason WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an order to undo Obama-era climate change regulations, keeping a campaign promise to support the coal industry and calling into question U.S. support for an international deal to fight global warming. Flanked by coal miners and coal company executives, Trump proclaimed his “Energy Independence” executive order at the headquarters of the Environmental Protection Agency.The move drew swift backlash from a coalition of 23 states and local governments, as well as environmental groups, which called the decree a threat to public health and vowed to fight it in court…., The order’s main target is former President Barack Obama’s Clean Power Plan, which required states to slash carbon emissions from power plants - a key factor in the United States’ ability to meet its commitments under a climate change accord reached by nearly 200 countries in Paris in 2015. Trump’s decree also reverses a ban on coal leasing on federal lands, undoes rules to curb methane emissions from oil and gas production and reduces the weight of climate change and carbon emissions in policy and infrastructure permitting decisions. Carbon dioxide and methane are two of the main greenhouse gases blamed by scientists for heating the earth….. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy-idUSKBN16Z1L6 President Trump Orders Help For Coal And Nuclear Plants Jeff BradyJune 1, 20185:26 PM ET President Trump has ordered Energy Secretary Rick Perry to take immediate steps to help financially troubled coal and nuclear power plants. … … Coal and nuclear plants are in trouble because across much of the country they're having trouble competing with cheaper forms of electricity generated by natural gas and renewable energy. The draft plan would require power grid operators to buy electricity from struggling plants over the next two years to prevent more from shutting down. It relies on authorities given to the executive branch in the Defense Production Act of 1950 and the Federal Power Act. Some coal and power companies have lobbied the administration to invoke the measure, known as a 202(c), and Trump has picked up on the term, telling coal miners on a recent trip to West Virginia that "we'll be looking at that 202." Energy analysts say the measure is meant for short-term emergencies and it would be a bad fit to use it this way…,. https://www.npr.org/2018/06/01/616245180/president-trump-orders-help-for-coal-and-nuclear-plants

Total gaslighting here. Pun intended. The Republican party and half of Canadian conservatives are pro-coal , pro oil and gas climate deniers who for the past several decades have been claiming that renewable energy is a hoax and have been openly advocating for coal and fossil fuels. Trump even signed an executive order FORCING utilities to use coal.

Well it sounds a little too deterministic to me to suggest the continuum and gradients of capitalism had to unfold as you described. There’s no reason that Reagamism HAD to follow rhe Great society for example. And its what enabled corporations to purchase the public sphere which is behind so much of today’s social problems. And while I’m not against “global trade” per se, I’m against the type that we’ve pursued which, contrary to predictions, did not democratize countries like China and Russia but instead transferred vast amounts of wealth and technology into the hands of dictatorial regimes who are now using it against us. As some examples, nearly all (75% to 95%) of our pharmaceuticals are made in India and China due to western drug companies’ outsourcing . China has in fact cornered and monopolized a number of critical markets, including much of the manufacturing of components needed for EVs and extraction of critical renewable energy materials such as lithium and All because western corporations have decided it’s best to leave ACTUAL work to foreigners while they just collect rent from patents and license fees and use their funds to buy up their own stock, engage in opaque financial transactions pay fat dividends. The financialization of the economy is another hallmark of neoliberalism. This is where even traditional goods-and-services companies like manufacturers spend a significant amount of their revenue on financial schemes like stock buybacks, credit default swaps, moving assets and liabilities around the globe and through shell companies in schemes that earn them money on paper but don’t really produce any valuable goods or services. Of course the entire financial sector as we recognize it today is largely a creature of Reaganism and generating wealth outside of actually providing goods and services was seen as a solution to the problems of the past But I would argue that in its application it has lead to a militant, right wing, anti-democratic working class who are the victims of a society that no longer “makes stuff” and no longer cares about society as a whole or the people left behind. And in doing so enriched and empowered our authoritarian rivals while allowing our own public amd social infrastructure to decay through decades of chronic underinvestment. It didn’t have to be that way. There’s no reason that governments couldn’t have ensured some redistributive measures so that more of the newfound wealth could be shared across society instead of just at the very top.

I guess we should never have stood up to Hitler then…wouldn’t want to enable a “racket”

The point of the article is moot.

Don’t be silly. Everyone knows Ukrainians aren’t qualified to decide anything…EXCEPT when a Russian soldier puts a gun to their head and forces them to “vote” to be annexed by Russia …in which case the “will of the people” must not be questioned!

When you bomb civilians and annex foreign countries you are ALWAYS the villain. FULL STOP Blaming Ukraine (or NATO) for “provoking” Russia’s invasion is like blaming a rape victim and for “provoking” her rapist.

Putin has been grooming the right with anti-EU propaganda for over a decade They found common cause with western conservatives, fossil fuel companies, climate deniers, and the general global corporate business lobby who chaffed at EU regulation of things like pesticides, GMO foods pharmaceutical prices and so on. For example, recently the EU completed a study and mandated that there are too many incompatible types of phone chargers for no good reason, and so to reduce waste and the cost and inconvenience to consumers, going forward all phones and chargers must be USB-C….that kind of stuff is typical EU regulation and is sand in the asscrack of conservatives and corporations the world over who are fundamentally offended that any government would dare to direct “the free market” in such a manner. Russian government troll farms would put out all kinds of content under the disguise of American or European business advocates or libertarians. I remember on another forum I used to frequent, an American Republican woul post these diatribes criticizing the structural details of EU parliament the power efficiency requirements for EU vacuum cleaners and I would say “why do you care, you live in California why are you so enraged and passionate about European vacuum cleaners and parliamentary procedure?” but you know he was just regurgitating what was being fed to him by the Russia-Corporate industrial complex that existed at that time.

They must think we should have let Hitler overrun Europe until the “auditors ” accounted for all the military aid we provided the allies. According @Nationalistthe Battle of Britain was just a scam for Churchill to get rich I suppose.Why else would anyone want to defend their country from invasion by a tyrannical dictator?

This BS started with an unjustified Russian invasion and will most quickly end with an unconditional Russian withdrawal. FULL STOP The suffering of the Ukrainian people which you CLAIM to care about is the result of Russian attacks FULL STOP If you really care about ending the conflict and suffering you would demand an immediate and unconditional Russian withdrawal. FULL STOP