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Considering we’re only expecting delivery 5 years from now and full operational capability ten years from now, I have my doubts about how effective it will be for combat missions at that time. Drone and counter-droune tech is evolving rapidly.

Extremely pathetic. The military is in rough shape, I believe the job vacancy rate service wide is something like 16% and many critical positions are worse than that. And even if those positions were magically filled the force is still probably too small. I think the manpower deficiencies are far more serious than the vehicle and equipment deficiencies because the greatest kit in the world means nothing if you don’t have the people to use them.

Sure it will fluctuate but it’s the core of the multinational brigade and it’s already 1,000 as the core of a simple Battle Group. Army boots on the ground are actually 1600 with regular planned surges to at least 2200, I had initially read that as 2200 hundred plus surges. There’s a lot more to a deployment and leading a brigade than just infantry. There’s armour, artillery and engineers, plus admin and staff personnel working in HQ, communications, intelligence, electronic warfare, medical, tactical aviation, logistics, mechanics and technicians of all kinds, and so on Canada is the framework nation for a NATO Brigade which means we are providing the core of the force in addition to the leadership. Specifically we will be supplying 2 of the brigade’s 3 battle groups. On the Army Podcast it was recently stated that the Latvia mission will consume 75% to 80% of the Army’s deployable force: This is not some small or short term side project Latvia is the army’s primary occupation for the next several years. They are literally constructing new buildings in Latvia to accommodate this mission:

A brigade is usually 3-5 battalions but at the brigade level these are of different trades. For example while an infantry battalion is 100% infantry, an infantry brigade consists primarily of infantry battalions but also includes armour, artillery, as well as administrative units such as field ambulance, intelligence, military police and so on. A Brigade is the smallest official combined arms administrative formation, (Battle Groups being temporary ad-hoc operational formations). Multiple Brigades make a Division, multiple Divisions make a Corps, and multiple Corps make a Field Army.

LMAO you have no idea what that video is of, what country it’s in, or who the person who posted it really is. Didn’t your parents ever teach you not to blindly believe strangers on the internet? Whatever the internet equivalent of “street smarts” is called these days, you ain’t got it. I swear, you’re so gullible if you were a female you’d have been pregnant by 13 and had 6 kids with 6 different men before you were 20.

So the MULTINATIONAL brigade will be ~4,000 total troops (from what I can tell), of which at least 2,200 will DEFINITELY be Canadian (plus additional light infantry companies and Chinooks in Canada that will periodically “surge” to the the theatre). The remainder of the brigade will be from the other participating countries. “ Canada will have up to 2200 persistently deployed Canadian Armed Forces members as part of the enhanced Forward Presence and supporting elements in Latvia, and will be prepared to deploy hundreds more as needed;” https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/news/2023/07/roadmap---scaling-the-efp-latvia-battle-group-to-brigade.html Trudeau says Canada will more than double military presence in Latvia RIGA, LATVIA -- It will take another three years for Canada to make good on its commitment to grow a multinational NATO battle group in Latvia to a combat-ready brigade, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau revealed Monday. The two countries have signed a "road map" outlining the process. It began more than a year ago, when Canada pledged to increase the size and capability of the battle group as part of NATO's efforts to reinforce its eastern flank and respond to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The document sets out three phases for the work, which will eventually involve as many as 2,200 persistently deployed Canadian troops plus the ability to add hundreds of additional Armed Forces members as needed. It states that brigade buildup will be completed in 2025, and that Latvia will work to build new infrastructure. "By 2026, Canada will complete the full implementation of persistently deployed brigade capabilities to Latvia," the document says. https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2023/7/10/1_6473333.amp.html AND breaking news as of today, Sweden has announced that it will join the Canadian-led brigade as soon as its NATO membership is approved.

False, you Putin-sucker they are not running out of men of fighting age. Of course women have always been eligible to voluntarily serve as have men up to age 60 have been fighting the invasion since the beginning. What else are they going To do sit at home a wait for a Russian invader to come by and rape and kill them? Once again: You don’t seem to be able to keep straight the fact that Russia is fighting a voluntary war of choice outside its borders while the Ukrainian people are fighting a necessary war of survival on their own land. Of course they’re going to fight, it’s fight or be enslaved by Putin, the world’s cruelest dictator.

Well according to the CAF stats they put out in the infographic it’s only going to have 28H endurance for some reason. I guess 40H is the naked weight not factoring the cameras and sensors CAF wants to put on? But I note 7200 km range. I imagine that they would want the aircraft to loiter over areas in the arctic for some time not just make a quick round trip spending most time in transit than on station, so my guess is arctic missions will launch from some northern staging area.

That is all correct, you got it. A Brigade is a recognized combined arms formation within the Order of Battle typically 3,000 to 5,000 troops in strength. A Battle Group is the name for any informal and temporary formation that is not a Brigade because it is too small and/or does not contain all the necessary administrative or functional elements of a brigade. Also correct that Canada alone cannot even field a full brigade anymore despite the fact that on paper Canada has 3 mechanized infantry brigades in the Regular Force. Currently the NATO force in Latvia is a Canadian-lead multinational Battlegroup embedded in a Latvian brigade. It consists of 1200-1500 troops of which 1,000 are Canadian. The remainder are from Albania, Czechia, Iceland, Italy, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain. There are currently 8 of these NATO Battle Groups across various Eastern European countries as a result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and they will all be scaling up to become standalone Brigades. Canada will continue to lead the Latvia Brigade, providing at least 2,200 out of (I believe) 4,000 total troops.

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Can’t you read? They’ve been getting massacred. They’re not able to replace soldiers any faster than they’re losing them. Lol your response is typical of a dictator fanboi: RUSSIAN GENERAL: - ”Mr Dictator we’ve lost 320,000 troops, they’re dying as fast as we can replace them! We’ve lost 87% of our initial invasion force!” PUTIN: - ”And?”

I imagine that for arctic missions they’ll have to first deploy one of the 4 northern forward operating fighter bases which are Yellowknife, Inuvik, Rankin Inlet and Iqaluit. At any rate this -B variant has more range-endurance than the traditional MQ-9A Reaper. I couldn’t fin the range but unarmed apparently endurance increases from 30hrs to 40 As an update to my earlier post, the MQ-9B is actually named the “SkyGuardian” by the manufacturer Better but not perfect https://www.ga-asi.com/teamskyguardiancanada/#mq9bskyguardian?id=teamskyguardiancanada-mq-9b At any rate by the time Canada jas them operational they will be completely obsolete for near-peer conflicts (they practically are already) and probably already retired by a number of our allies

Well that sure wasn’t much of a delay! As was previously pointed out, MQ-9 is old tech I wonder how long it will stay relevant Oh and we also gotta change that name. “Reaper” is just awful, especially considering the drone’s track record of indiscriminately killing civilians. I mean why not just call it the “mass murderer” or “Jack the Ripper”? Unfortunately it was named by Americans at a time when they were especially hate-filled, sadistic and bloodthirsty after 9/11. And are we still getting the Hellfires or not? The article implies that we are but doesn’t make it explicitly clear ———— Canadian military buying armed drones for $2.49B Armed Forces purchasing 11 MQ-9 Reaper drones, delivery expected in 2028 Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: Dec 19, 2023 1:12 PM EST | Last Updated: 5 hours ago In this image released by the U.S. Air Force, a fully armed MQ-9 Reaper unmanned aerial vehicle taxis down the runway at an air base in Afghanistan on Nov. 4, 2007. (Staff Sgt. Brian Ferguson/The Associated Press) After more than two decades of debate, discussion and policy dissection, Canada's air force finally has the green light to acquire armed drones. A fleet of 11 MQ-9B Reaper drones, built by U.S. defence contractor General Atomics, will be purchased in a $2.49 billion package, Liberal MPs announced Tuesday on behalf of Defence Minister Bill Blair. As CBC News reported in October, delivery of the remotely piloted aircraft won't take place until 2028 and the air force doesn't expect to have the full fleet up and running until 2033. Unlike other recent purchases for the air force, this project was announced outside of Ottawa in a low-key manner. The announcement came after Parliament adjourned for the holiday season and on the same day the Liberal government delivered more information about its high-profile electric vehicle program. The Reapers will be delivered through a direct contract with the U.S. manufacturer, with some components — such as weapons and other technology — purchased under the framework of U.S. foreign military sales. The drone program has followed a long and winding path through the federal bureaucracy. The fact that Canada had chosen the MQ-9 slipped out back in the fall, when it was revealed that the U.S. had approved the sale of equipment related to the Reaper, including Hellfire missiles. Drones were first proposed in the early 2000s and Canada came close to buying an earlier version of the Reaper (the Predator) under the former Conservative government. The program made its way into the 2017 Liberal defence policy, but has been the subject of internal review. Two companies bid on the contract but one dropped out, leaving only General Atomics. The federal government originally planned to acquire the MQ-9B Reaper fleet by by 2025. As CBC News reported a few weeks ago, delivery and deployment have been delayed by uncertainty about how the MQ-9 Reapers will perform in the Arctic. Although the drones have proved themselves in other difficult climates, the Department of National Defence says they'll need to be modified to withstand the harsh Arctic environment and to include Canadian-made electronic surveillance equipment. The contract involves the delivery of both the drones and six ground stations. The main ground control centre, which houses the aircraft cockpits, will be situated in Ottawa. A student pilot and sensor operator man the controls of a MQ-9 Reaper in a ground-based cockpit during a training mission at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base, Syracuse, New York on June 6, 2012. (TSgt Ricky Best/The Associated Press) The aircraft themselves will be stationed at the military airbases in Greenwood, Nova Scotia and Comox, B.C. Their purchase will require the construction of new hangars. "The Government of Canada is committed to providing the Canadian Armed Forces with the equipment they need to keep Canadians safe," Blair said in a statement. "This agreement to acquire the Remotely Piloted Aircraft System will expand Canada's ability to modernize its military force, contribute to joint intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance operations with its allies, and create good jobs in the aerospace and defence sector." Background material, released as part of the announcement, says General Atomics has agreed to deliver economic benefit commitments to Canada as part of the acquisition — investments that have the potential to generate close to 700 jobs annually. Vice-Admiral Bob Auchterlonie speaks during an interview in Ottawa on Wednesday, December 14, 2022. (Patrick Doyle/The Canadian Press) In a year-end interview with CBC News, conducted prior to Tuesday's announcement, the military's operations commander Vice-Admiral Bob Auchterlonie said the acquisition of drones is crucial, especially for overseas missions such as the deployment of a Canadian brigade in Latvia. Auchterlonie said that as the operations commander, he "would rather have capability now than than later on." He said he understood the challenges the air force faces as it introduces multiple new fleets of aircraft, such as the F-35 fighters, the P-8 Poseidon surveillance plane and new air-to-air refuelling planes. The U.S., the U.K., Italy, France and Spain have all acquired the MQ-9 Reaper, but the amount of time Canada's version will spend in the Far North is a matter of concern. The need to operate at high northern latitudes and the Arctic requires the use of satellites, aircraft antennas and communication components not previously integrated into the MQ-9B, the defence department has said. The manufacturer insists the aircraft has proved itself in the High Arctic. In an online promotional pitch, General Atomics said the MQ-9B "operates well in cold weather conditions" and the airframe has a state-of-the-art anti-ice/de-icing system. In September 2021, the company conducted a demonstration flight to the 78th parallel in Canada's Far North. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/armed-drone-canadian-armed-forces-1.7063989

From your own link: …Russian forces suffered as many 240,000 wounded and 50,000 killed. Wagner Group mercenaries likely suffered 40,000 wounded and 20,000 killed, the ministry said. "The median of the estimate range is 320,000 total Russian combatant casualties," the ministry tweeted. …Whatever the number, Ukrainian casualties have been dwarfed by Russia's. "Russian forces may be suffering losses along the entire front in Ukraine at a rate close to the rate at which Russia is currently generating new forces," the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think-tank, wrote this week.

OMG what a collection of unhinged batshit nonsense, falsehoods distortion, false equivalence, misrepresentation and exaggeration. And HILLARY has Russian pals now? LMAO you’re fukin crazy dude. Luckily for you and unlike you I have a life and a job so I will address tour crazy shit later when I have time to waste. In the meantime know that you sound like a lunatic in a straightjacket ranting at the ceiling.

Buddy your lies, distortions and selective memory are hilarious. The truth is unbelievable to you because you are uneducated and unintelligent and brainwashed I mean these false narratives and conspiracies you keep pushing are not just lies they’re a junk drawer of gibberish and half-baked talking points that don’t even make sense or follow any logic. It’s just memorized talking points that you don’t even question You kooks are like children who go around repeating things they overhear from their parents word for word without even understanding what it means 8 guilty pleas and one conviction at trial for the dirty Trump goons who were convicted in the Muller investigation, including laundering Russian money. meanwhile you got 1 guy on 1 charge because he wrote 4 words on an email. There was never any question that Trump campaign was colluding with Russians the only question was whether any of it was actually illegal. But of course Trump obstructed the investigation and was protected by his attorney general. Meanwhile the Durham investigation was a total flop that uncovered nothing Jan 6 riot was based on a belief that if congress could be prevented from certifying the election on that day it would nullify the election results because the constitution requires the election be certified exactly on that day and not any other day. It was definitely a hair-brained scheme to overthrow the government. And Trump never said the words “let’s stroll peacefully” you shameless liar The Russian invaders raped, murdered, abducted civilians, intentionally destroyed cultural artifacts, forcefully relocated Ukrainian civilians to Russia especially children. I never called it genocide but they’ve certainly committed major war crimes. Unfortunately for the Russians their corrupt and incompetent military also sucks and they got their asses kicked once Ukraine launched a counteroffensive that liberated most of their country. However, Russia having a shitty military doesn’t cancel out their crimes against humanity.

Complete Annihilation’: Five Russian Battalions Went Up In Smoke And Flames Trying To Surround Avdiivka David AxeDec 15, 2023, The Russian army has lost at least 211 armored vehicles trying, and so far failing, to surround and cut off the Ukrainian garrison in Avdiivka, just northwest of Russian-occupied Donetsk city in eastern Ukraine. Ukrainian analysis group Frontelligence Insight scrutinized satellite imagery and verified all 211 wrecked and abandoned vehicles. Its tally aligns with a U.S. intelligence assessment, which concluded the Russians have lost 220 vehicles around Avdiivka—and 13,000 people, too. Most of the losses occurred in the first month of the Avdiivka battle starting in early October. After a few weeks, desperate Russian commanders switched up their tactics, and sent in the infantry on foot. The vehicle toll “surpasses Russian losses in any other single battle,” Frontelligence reported, “making it the most devastating battle for Russian forces in terms of vehicle losses.” Losing at least 211 vehicles and 13,000 soldiers killed and wounded amounts to the “complete annihilation of five battalions,” according to Frontelligence. “This represents significant losses in both equipment and personnel, considering the achieved results.” …. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/12/15/complete-annihilation-five-russian-battalions-went-up-in-smoke-and-flames-trying-to-surround-avdiivka/?sh=1524b8301542

It’s not pondering a split

Please find the source of the problem underlined above.

In reality those uneducated drones are too uninformed to understand and accept reality. And in fact too shallow and ignorant to even watch news in the first place…. therefore susceptible to bizarre and implausible conspiracies. This describes you perfectly. Scoffing at mainstream news and subscribing to half-baked antiestablishment conspiracies fools ignoramuses like you into feeling like you’re smarter than everyone else and that you’ve some how found a cheat code to life that compensates for your lack of basic education and personal success. That’s true. It was also supported and even demanded by Republicans. Clinton and Biden would be conservatives if they had to run in Canada on their track records. Economically Clinton did everything Republicans wanted. He was basically a fiscal conservative who unlike Republicans wasn’t afraid of gays or marijuana. No dummy that’s how far back your idiocy stretches. Your 2020 election idiocy, Ukrainian Jewish Nazi idiocy and Ukrainian bio weapons idiocy are more current examples. As is your claim to innocence of Chauvin, the Whitmer kidnappers and the various Trump criminals who have all be convicted. This posts age terribly but you just squeal conspiracy whenever your predictions fail so you can tell yourself you’re actually SMURT. Interesting that you claim to have posts from me going back to 2014, considering that I only joined in 2020. And again I challenged you to provide an example. See this is exactly the kind of idiocy that fools like you engage in and think it’s bulletproof logic because you’re too uneducated to even grasp how logic and evidence are supposed to work. “I am going to make up a bunch of accusations with zero evidence and claim they just didn’t get caught because of conspiracy” Not to mention you have basic facts wrong about what you claim to be “No ID voting”, “mass mailing unsolicited ballots” and “letting illegal immigrants vote”. There could be separate threads about each of these but suffice to say you don’t know sh1t about any of those topics and are grossly misrepresenting them here. No that’s just a laundry list of your spouting your baseless batsh1t conspiracy crap that you repeat over and over like a lunatic and then claim anyone who doesn’t agree with you has been proven wrong. And 9 years eh? Lol. You can’t count either. Another example of how stupid you are like your brain is just atrophied beyond function. You think CNN should have censored that person’s opinion of Brown because on the day of his death Brown shoved a totally different person, which in your mind somehow proves NOBODY who knew him could have ever thought of him as being gentle. Again among many problems with your logic is you can’t tell difference between opinion and fact. You think opinions that counter your narrative should be silenced or else it proves that the media is part of a conspiracy. Face it you’re just a dumb uneducated goon, you’re not smart or wise or clever In other words you got nothing. I say things you disagree with, which is not saying they’ve been proven wrong or aged badly and given your stunning ignorance and lack of education its a badge of honour to have kooks like you think my posts are awful. Seriously you have the cognitive and introspective skills of a young child. It’s sad really.

Yep no argument. It is definitely a multinational brigade, led by Canada I don’t know what the target size is but I imagine it will be something like 4500-5000 with Canada being the largest contributor supplying 2200 plus occasionally surging in an additional light infantry battalion for periodic 6-8 week deployments. .

Im pretty certain its just for Latvia for now. But in the latest Army podcast it was mentioned that because the Latvia battle group is scaling up to brigade size, large increases in quantity of existing Urgent Operational Requirement requests for PAXM, MANPAD/SHORAD, anti-drone, etc were all approved. So that’s all we’ve got to hang our hopes on right now.

Your opposite-of-reality reporting at work again. The Reaganomics drones were FATALLY WRONG. It was THE LEFT and especially the educated Left who accurately predicted that right-wing Reaganomics brutalization of the working class would cause many to become radicalized, virulently racist and anti-democratic. Conservatives dismissed that idea entirely claiming working class people won’t mind being desperately poor and will happily obey the law as long as there’s enough flag-waving and bible-thumping to make everyone sufficiently patriotic and religious. Then they built an unprecedented number of prisons and adopted a policy of widespread mass incarceration to deal with any of the newly created underclass who get out of line, increasing the overall prison population by 500%, most for nonviolent drug offences. I have always been on the correct side you have been on he conspiracy kook can’t even admit when you’re wrong side. From Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate to Saddam’s WMD/Al-Qaeda links to stolen 2020 election lies and thousands of others in between Republicans have not just been wrong but SHAMELESS LIARS No Republicans still believe theBirth certificate and Saddam lies but non of the Republicans who were shrieking about those things will admit they were wrong either Try to bring it up and they just run away, deflect, or “but Hunter Biden” or “But Hillary’s emails” it That’s gotta be some kind of joke you brainless conspiracy kook. Those conservative pundits and activists only seem smart to gullible uneducated know-nothings like you, the rest of the world sees them as the dishonest charlatans they are Again opposite of reality. I always rebut your baseless claims with facts and cites and real-world evidence while you mostly provide no evidence for your baseless claims and your mindless repetition of FBI-gentle giant-CNN rants. My “sandbox insults” are pretty much limited to accurately reminding you of your lack of basic education - which is entirely relevant - and calling you a conspiracy kook as you are heavily invested in belief of numerous implausible conspiracies. It’s not my fault that your radicalized mind is unable to accurately recall these things but it’s exactly how a radicalized brain functions. You mindless repetition of YOUR false CNN/M Brown narrative is a perfect example of you cognitive deficiency. CNN didn’t “report” that Brown was a gentle giant you claim it did, and his family member’s recollection of him a as a gentle giant is simply that one person’s opinion not a “fact” or “lie” that can be disproven. Logically this claim of yours that you’ve been obsessively repeating like a mentally ill person for a decade now doesn’t make sense. Go find me one that hasn’t aged well.

Typo in your last line as clearly you are disgusted by democracy.

What total Bullshit, not only in your fabricated conspiracy that the Trumps Durham witch hunt failed to prove but also in your lame attempt to tie that to “stealing an election”. The real amd only BIG LIE continues to Trump’s false claim that the 2020 election was still and his multiple failed schemes to actually steal it.