Dougie93

Just play the ball, look at what it is that you are saying that is bothering the troll to make him want to troll you, then double down on that, but not angry, ice cold. Whatever it is in the trolls post that you are interested in responding to, just respond to that, and edit out the rest. If its all just "you are this and you are that and you are wrong", that's all fallacy, so there's no reason to respond to any of that at all. None of that is doing any damage so just let him spin his wheels there. And don't chase him up and down the board, you are bothering him, that is why he is trolling you, so just do your own thing and let him chase after you.

Actually, you're the one who doesn't understand Quebec, outside of Montreal, there is no Canada in Quebec, they don't pay any attention to Canada whatsoever. And as they are an ethno-nationalist state, that ethno-nationalism trumps economic concern, Anglo Canadians have nothing to bind them together except maybe Team Canada ice hockey, whereas Quebec is an actual nation. And they've shown consistently that they are prepared to bear the economic brunt of their ethno-nationalism, I've lived in Quebec, culture is everything, economics is considerably further down on the list, they don't have the Protestant Worker Bee ethic of Ontario and the West, work, work, work, is not the centre of gravity in Quebec, so the assertion that Canada will be able to bribe Quebec into staying in Confederation is unfounded. Equalization is actually broken and totally inefficient and the Canadian government wastes most of the money, so Quebec collecting their own taxes without Ottawa as the middle man will yield them more revenue not less. When they separate, it's not going to be about logic at all, it's going to be all emotion, vive le Quebec, vive le Quebec libre

Quebec separation is inevitable, it's just a matter of time, as the Liberals allow the Chinese in, the Americans will start to freeze Canada out, but Quebec doesn't have any interest in trading with China, trade with China is all about Ontario and the West, so as the freeze out progresses, the pressure in Quebec to ditch Chicom Canada and to defend themselves from the Liberals immigration policies, and just go with the Americans, will be the thing that puts the Pequites back in the drivers seat and over the top in the inevitable next referendum. Used to be the Americans didn't want that, but now the Americans have realized that Canada is never going to put its big boy pants on to be any use to them, so Canadian Confederation has become as obsolete to the Americans as it is to Canadians, but neither Quebec nor the Americans are emotionally invested in Confederation, to wit, Republic of Quebec? NBD.

I also think the American position on Quebec separation has evolved, obviously during the Cold War they wanted a single point of contact up here, they didn't want to be dealing with two jurisdictions, but this is a different age, so if Quebec wants to separate from the Chinese Hegenomy Anglo Canada is signing itself up for and cut a side deal with the Americans, I think Washington would be down for that now.

It's all to the good tho, because Quebec is an insular ethno-national state which is not conducive to opening up their borders to the world, so as the effects of increasing Canadian subjugation come to pass, that will bring my homey's the Pequistes back to power, vive le Quebec, vive le Quebec libre.

If Canada enters in to free trade with the Communists in Beijing, Canada is just going to get rolled, the Chinese don't play by any rules, they will just keep altering the deal like Darth Vader and Lando Calrissian Canada is just going to have to eat it, the only thing keeping the Chinese from subjugating Canada under the boot heels, is the Americans.

Loud and proud. I think misanthropy is an essential component to being an elite infantryman, you can only compartmentalize so much, if you're an overflowing cup of human empathy, that is not conducive to state sanctioned mass murder on behalf of the Crown.

There aren't any markets offering Canada a better deal, Canada is more protectionist than the Americans and so is every other country, the US is the least protectionist to Canada, so even if Canada diversifies by percentage, it's not going to yield more throughput than exporting to the Americans, so it will end up being small beer. Canada wants it both ways, Canada wants to be protectionist while having access to everybody elses markets, and the result is that Canada's non US free trade deals like CETA and TPP are so meager in terms of bringing down barriers, so full of caveats which undermine the purpose, they're not going to be able to replace the Americans.

The trick to internet forums is to remain clinically detached, don't emotionally invest yourself, as BC says, just play the ball, ignore the rest. Some Millennial on the internet calls you a "fascist", who cares? Nobody cares. This is why you have an avatar, don't think of it as attack on your person, it's just an attack on your avatar. Don't drive angry, if you feel yourself getting angry, just walkaway, take a break. Ya gotta be like a Vulcan from Star Trek, all logic, no emotion, before your respond to anything, pause and think; how would Mr. Spock respond to that? And don't forget, the guy who is trying to troll you, is doing that because he is angry, so he's being passive aggressive, if you don't take the bait, then he's just spinning his wheels. Perhaps your wife or girlfriend can still troll you passive aggressive, but effeminate Millennials on the internet? You don't know them and you don't live with them, thus, again, who cares?

On the bright side, federal procurement is so absurdly broken, it is restricting the politicians ability to pork barrel, they can't even get projects off the ground to shovel the money out the door.

In fairness to the politicians, there's no votes in Defence but porkbarreling in fairness to the electorate, there's no conventional military threat to Canada. And in terms of American complaints about the world's Free Riders, it's not going to stop so long as America is filling the void, Americans keeping saying they are going to pull it all back, but they never actually do.

When push comes to shove, the ship contract is the priority because that's the vote buying contract, unlike the CF-18's, the fighters will not be made in Canada so that has little to no priority at all. Although the ship contract may collapse as well, they're certainly not going to build 15 of them before the money runs out in any case, the RCN will be counting themselves lucky if they get 6 of them.

I must be a misanthrope, because I honestly don't give a rats ass about future generations nor the survival of the species. Global Climate scam is not about saving people in the future its about raising taxes and imposing draconian regulations on us in the now, and if that's how it is, the future generations should blame the lefties, because the lefties conveniently asserting that what we need to do is exactly their desired agenda to the exclusion of all else, is why nothing much is going to be done. Never mind that central planning doesn't work and is doomed to fail anyways. The new commies have about as much chance of achieving their utopian World Climate Revolution as the old commies did with their World Socialist Revolution, which is none, all the lefties will do trying to go by that means is incite a massive fascistic backlash resulting in them getting liquidated by the millions, just to shut them up, virtue signalling themselves right into the gas chambers. Not to mention they don't understand human psychology, constant hysterical pronouncements of alarmist over the top doom does not make humans take action, quite the opposite, it just overwhelms and humans will ignore it as a result just to get on with their lives, the lives of people centuries from now be damned. Furthermore, based on the assertions of the "Climate Scientists!", it's already too late anyways in any practical political sense, zero chance we are achieving their demanded reductions within the window they require. To try to force de-industrialize at that pace would just incite wars, and then your climate doom would simply be accelerated by thermonuclear bombs.

The best one was when Lester Pearson went down to Washington and gave a speech in opposition to the Vietnam War and after at the WH, Lyndon Johnson grabbed him and picked him up by the lapels saying "Don't come down here and piss on my rug!" lol

Globalization and unionization are not the same issue. If your country was a massive hegemonic net importer like the United States you might be able to get away with walling yourself off to prop up your unions, but if you're a small export reliant country you'd be cut out of other markets and so your unions would suffer from a lack of work. Case in point, Canada and the USA, the Americans could crush us by protectionism, whereas we would only crush ourselves by trying that back at them and they wouldn't even notice. In terms of right to work and outlawing unions, I embrace freedom of association, but that cuts both ways, right to work; okay, freedom not to associate, outlaw unions, not okay, freedom to associate. Bear in mind tho, the doom of industrial unions is not globalization but rather automation and there's nothing they can do to stop it, and decentralized Information Age workers will not be susceptible to enforced unionization. So unions better figure out how to deal with selling their memberships to employees, because right to work is gonna be de facto even if not de jure.

Idiotic, eh? So is trying to be the thought police on the internet. /shrugs

The origin of modern fascism is not the Nazis, Mussolini came to power in Italy first on 31 October 1922, he was a former socialist who was driven to revanchism by the catastrophic defeat of the Italian army by the Germans at Capporetto Just FYI

No. Jews at the time were demonized widely, for example when they tried to flee Nazi Germany to Canada, Liberal Prime Minister MacKenzie-King was asked how many he would accept and he said "one is too many!" and sent them back. Jews in Canada in the 1930's were basically discriminated against like blacks. National Socialism is an offshoot of fascism, and the Jewish-Bolshevik Conspiracy is more specific and the central tenet of the faith. The Treaty of Versailles is one component of Nazi grievances, but they did not and likely could not have come to power without the total economic collapse of the Wiemar Republic

As I've said, I've spent a lot of time on American libertarian militant free speecher forums, where they don't restrict anybody from joining nor speaking their minds, so you get the full spectrum, far left through the center to the far right, nobody gets censored nobody gets banned, and there are always a few openly declared fascists around in the mix.

You yip-yap a lot about fascists, but you don't seem to understand where they come from; catastrophic defeat of Italy and Germany in the First World War, followed by the Great Depression, fasicsm is largely about national humiliation, the Jewish-Bolshevik Conspiracy comes in the wake.

The Iraq War debacle was the point where the NeoCons discredited themselves opening the way for the populist take over of the GOP, which was then intensified by the fallout of the 2008 financial crisis.

I don't assert that Globalism is the skyfall, I embrace globalized free and unrestricted trade at a level far more intense than the NeoLiberals do, protectionism is a fool's errand. The NeoLiberals don't actually have the courage of their convictions.

The country will continue on the same downward spiral under the PhonyCons, at best they would make tiny tweaks at the margins, but otherwise they will basically adopt the Liberal policies as their own, as per usual.

Well, Trump is a product of the Iraq War quagmire followed the 2008 financial crisis backlash, but neither was catastrophic enough to incite full on fascism, Trump himself is not a fascist, New York liberal political opportunist riding the wave of discontent into office, and the fascists in the US who I've spoken to online say Trump is obviously not a fascist nor do they expect him to be a fascist, they just voted for him in the hopes he would curtail immigration. Mind you, plenty of non fascists I've spoken to have expressed the same desire to curtail immigration, curtailing immigration is certainly not a desire which is limited to the fascists.

Nah, I don't do the Soros thing, and Globalism is a conspiracy in plain sight, but that's not actually a project of the far left, that's the NeoLiberals.