Dougie93

Probability is not stable, can shift precipitously, is shifting as we speak, in the direction of the ever more likely.

You're welcome to your opinion of course, and as I've said, we Pequistes are simply lying in wait husbanding our resources for when the next referendum comes, but we don't need you, so I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm not trying to recruit to be Pequistes, that's the beauty of it, Confederation is going to bring itself down, by giving we Pequistes the constitutional right to leave Confederation, and by being so dysfunctional now, far more dysfunctional that it was at the time of the last referendum, and that very dysfunction is going to be the thing that puts us over the top. . . and out of this abomination at the next referendum, vive le Quebec, vive le Quebec libre. I will of course continue to defend my Commander-in-Chief, when Quebec leaves they will be a republic, but as that tears the country apart, we here in Upper Canada will be free, and we're not getting rid of the Queen. More likely King by the time this goes down, because it's not going to happen tomorrow obviously. But we are patient, this is a long term project, we are laying the groundwork now for things to come in the next decade or so. Because this Information Age revolution is picking up pace now, the industrial work is really starting to go away (which is why I am also a member of the Anti-Work Movement, conservative wing) and as these industrial workers all start to lose their work, revolutionary forces will be in play, which will only hasten the downfall of this Failed State Zombie Confederation. This process has already begun, with Alberta industrial workers fighting BC Information workers, over pipelines and the oil sands vs. Climate Change urban Knowledge Economy elites. That is the Information Age revolution habbening. Same thing with Trump, because the revolution was that out of work industrial workers in the rust belt flipped from the Democrats to Trump, which is the only way he could have won.

Just FYI, in the event of World War Three, Canada only serves one role; Canada is No Mans Land. As the war is not really Transatlantic, it's over the Pole, with Canada sitting right in the middle. This was always Canada's role in the event of World War Three, which is another reason there isn't much support for having an actual fighting military, because in the event of war, Canada will not be in the fight, so much as Canada will simply be wiped off the map in a thermonuclear firestorm.

Can't strengthen the military, due to dysfunctional failed Confederation, because one the many dysfunctions of Canadian Confederation is that the regions where support for the military is high, are demographically boxed out by the regions where they don't want a military at all, because those regions are fundamentally Marxist socialist and so view the military as simply being pawns of American Imperialism, and those people control the agenda of the country, by way of the leverage they have over everybody else in Confederation. NATO undermines itself by having too many countries like Canada, otherwise known as the Free Riders, Trump is merely stating the truth of it, causing the liberal media to go hysterical. Trump doesn't have to stop criticizing NATO, he is the American Commander-in-Chief, NATO belongs to him, NATO Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) at Brussels Belgium, commands all NATO forces under the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) General Curtis M.Scaparotti, and General Scaparotti reports directly from there, to Donald Trump. Canada is irrelevant, but part of the Canadian Disease is that Canadians have a delusional sense of their importance, or rather total lack thereof, and you clearly have the Canadian Disease, although I used to as well, so it can be cured, you're probably just young, idealistic and naive. Which is fine, but it's delusional. All POTUS's are hostile to some degree or another, but Obama was actually more hostile in real terms, because Obama made more actual policies which harmed Canadian interests. Not my interests mind you, harmed the interests of Confederation, which I of course no longer defend nor uphold and are now rather actively working to undermine by any and all legal means. The Americans are going to continue to freeze Canada out, because this is not about Trump, you are inside of a revolution right now, the Information Revolution, just as people in the 19th century people were cuaght up in the Industrial Revolution, so nothing will ever be the same as it was, it's never going back to business as usual, because business is changing, from Industrial Age business into Information Age business, what you are experiencing is simply the buffeting of the forces as they rip the old world down and transition into a new world, again, as they did in the 19th century going from agrarian to industrial.

Do you not understand what "de facto" means? Do you understand the difference between de facto and de jure?

I see a value in NATO, I was after all a Cold Warrior, I'm pro-NATO, not to go adventuring, chasing terrorists down rabbit holes, but Mr. Ivan must be deterred on the trace in Europe, whether that trace be on the Inner German border or as it is now the Inner Ukrainian border, whether he's under Soviet colours or Russian, because if he crosses the Article V line, and the crisis were to break NATO under the pressure of it, it's still gonna be World War Three at the brink of a strategic thermonuclear exchange. Canada tho, would have no particular influence, because while she was a serious player when I was serving NATO, Canada now is functionally disarmed for all intents and purposes above the limited tactical level, and doesn't have a logistics tail for the pathetically dilapidated tactical only force it has now.

Your assertion was not that they had a de jure veto, you said "inherent" veto, which means de facto, and they do have a de facto veto, because they are the title holders of the land and that makes it their property, and people are very attached to their property, so if you try to roll over them, that will backfire into the governments face, because if any First Nation decides to resist as the Mohawks did at Oka, the same that happened at Oka is going to happen again, and at Oka, the Mohawks used force, and they won. The issue here is that the government is not as afraid of the Pacific Northwest Coast indians, because as of right now they are comparatively docile bourgeois pampered indians, but the government don't even dare step one foot on Mohawk land, because the Mohawks are not docile and are rather reasonably well trained paramilitaries and heavily armed. Some first nations are docile and some are not, but any which chooses to flip to the not docile camp can veto the government by asymmetrical use of force, otherwise known as guerilla warfare, which is what the Oka Crisis was in the summer of 1990.

So long as the band councils are on board, I'm fine with it, I do not oppose pipelines, although I don't think it's going to save the oil sands mid to long term, because a lack of pipelines is not what is killing the oil sands, what is killing the oil sands and what is going to kill the oil sands, is the international Bolshevist Climate Doom scam and associated shift of public opinion which is going to render the oil sands politically unsustainable.

Draw conclusions as you may, but conclusions not supported by logical consistency backed up by evidence are not arguments, those are called opinions, which are inherently unfounded, which brings us back to; "So what?" In terms of being an Anglo Pequiste, I am not Quebecois, I am British North American, my earliest ancestor which I can trace, jumped ship at Halifax Harbour in 1757 after being press ganged into the Royal Navy to fight the French and Indian component of the Seven Years War. I merely support their self determination as per the SCC ruling which states they are entitled to it so long as it by democratic means under the Clarity Act. And while we are not a large cohort, yet, I am not alone and we are not disorganized. "Most Canadians" is not only fallacious circular logic, we don't actually need most Canadians, we just need a tiny little percentage of them in certain ridings in Quebec

Just to get it out of the way, so you know who you are talking to before you start beaking off about service to the Crown unto death as necessary under contract of unlimited liability As a soldier of HM Royal Canadian Infantry Corps, I served with The Royal Canadian Regiment, 1st and 3rd Battalions, in Rifle Company, as well as Anti-Armor and Reconnaissance Platoons, I was an infantry instructor at the Royal Canadian Regiment Battleschool, and I served in staff positions with Land Forces Central Area and the Land Advanced Warfare Center. Ducimus

And while I don't wear my medals anymore, I do have them here in my desk, which technically makes me a decorated veteran, although for no particular valour.

I was already out of the army with no desire to return for the purposes of invading The Graveyard of Empires on behalf of American neoliberal NeoConservatives, before 9-11 occurred. In terms of my operational experience, in the 1980's I served with NATO CENTAG on the trace, in the 90's I served on Op Salon in aid to the civil power, and Op Harmony, which is UN chapter 6 UNPROFOR Bosnia was Op Cavalier.

The Government of Canada can pass a conscription act any time they please, and no, you couldn't bring a charter challenge, because, yes, that is something they could actually invoke section 33 in order to ram through.

Seems that you are the one who needs to do some homework, because you keep posting non sequitur to the point, since I did not make any points with regards to the taxation of Quebec. If we could achieve de-Confederation, then I would gladly and proudly pay my taxes to Upper Canada, because it's quite lovely here in Wellington County and I have no desire to leave, but so long as the taxes are being extracted by Ottawa, then those taxes are extracted ultimately at gun point, because I do not otherwise pay them willingly. As to punch above weight class, that was long ago and far away, I was there, and this here now, this ain't it. And the reason is; the inherent and so persistent and increasing dysfunction of Confederation, to wit, doesn't work, never worked, isn't going to work, ergo; vive le Quebec, vive le Quebec libre, my motto.

Although, that being said, I am still available for conscription, assuming said Conscription Act is signed by Her Majesty, as tho I have no fealty whatsoever to Canadian Confederation per se, I am none the less still a loyal subject of the Crown and associated Commonwealth.

The ISS does not belong to Canada neither, so not a Canadian space program. Canada's size is actually irrelevant, for example Hong Kong outperfoms Canada by almost every measure, particularly in terms of GDP income, and yet Hong Kong is just a rock with no resources. But yes, it is typical of and inclusive to the Canadian Disease to try to use size to justify the dysfunction of Confederation, but looking at Hong Kong, Singapore, and Liechtenstein, reveals that size in fact a canard. In terms of respect, no, I no longer have any respect for Canadian Confederation, hence why I am an Anglo Pequiste, and I only pay taxes to it because they are extracted from me ultimately at gunpoint, but since Canadian Confederation doesn't actually require anything else from me after they've shaken me down, I simply shrug and carry on with my own life as an individual autonomous from said state, quite comfortably.

Since you are insistent in posting in bad faith, in that there is no logical consistency supporting your assertions, I would say the issue is that you simply lack the intellectual capacity at this juncture to be able to argue anything, for whatever reason. But since you probably don't know what that means, I tried to dumb it down into its logical conclusion; "stupidity", as making assertions over and over without any logic to underpin them, is the distilled dictionary definition of stupidity. Other than, not sure what I can do to help you. /shrugs

Anyone can look at what I said and see that it say "Canada operates in space" and not "Canada has a space program", so not sure why you are needlessly belaboring the point, other than stupidity, as what other reason could there be? Even the most ignorant of the unwashed masses should be able to grasp that Canada goes to space on the back of the American space program, while not actually running a Canadian space program parallel to. The Canadian Space Agency is not a space program, it's an agency charged with sending Canada to space on the back of the American space program, otherwise known as NASA. I mean, duh.

So what?

There is no solution within the structure of the Confederation you are in now, because all this dysfunction is inherent to the structure of it. The solution is to devolve and break the big confederated Fake Country down into its component regions which are de facto countries, and just go to a looser association where we would all be healthier wealthier and wise. These devolved Dominions would have the same relationship with each other as Australia and New Zealand have, rather than all being forced together into dysfunction by Ottawa.

You invoked Conservative when you injected the caveat "Real", which is an inherent and glaring fallacy. A conservative position vis a vis supporting the military is to take the Queen's Schilling and join the military, talking a big game about the military while declining to serve in preference of letting others do it, is liberalism. So in fact the issue here would be that you to learn the difference between fallacious and logically supported.

Nothing more than "Real Conservative" virtue signalling.

And if you want to know where this Canadian dogma of soldier = victim comes from, it comes from the Battle of the Somme in the First World War, where the British broke their Empire against the German defences, resulting in the world we live in today, in the wake of what was actually a War of British Hegemonic Succession, succession from the British Empire to the American Empire of Liberty, Canada flipping from British Colony to American colony therein. Before the Battle of The Somme catastrophe, Canadians were amongst the most gung-ho of the gung-ho for war on behalf of the British Crown, in the entire Empire. That is why the Canadian Expeditionary Force fought so valiantly and became the elite of the British Army, because the Canadians prior to the Somme, were more British than the British themselves, because of the proximity of the looming menace of the American republic, the Somme broke that and made it go in the opposite direction, to where we are now, in the Empire of Liberty, which is not Canada's job to defend, but rather the Americans job to defend, with Canada never going adventuring a' Somme again.

Prima facie, if you can't see it, not sure what I can do to help you, because, no offence, but from where I'm sitting, to deny the obvious reality of it, would be delusional. In terms of the "support" of Canadians for the military, it is entirely rhetorical, because they say one thing and then vote exactly in the opposite direction. I would submit, that is because the Canadian Public does not view the Canadian Forces are their servants, but rather the servants of the Americans, but also they have been indoctrinated by the socialist leftist dogma to view armed forces not as proud warriors but rather hapless victims and dupes of imperialism, so they don't say the empty things they say about the military because they really care about national security, rather, they say it because they feel sorry for us, as victims. Or rather they feel sorry for you, because I am (ret.) now And if you think the NSPS procurement boondoggle is really going to be aloud to cost anywhere near $60 billion delivering anywhere near the number of ships contracted, before they trim it back and/or cancel it and/or it simply collapses under its own weight and fails to launch, sorry, but again, I think you're delusional.

Or to dumb it down for the unwashed masses; The American space program is a civilian run international program and not conducted at the highest levels of national security secrecy, Polar under ice operations is the biggest of the big leagues at 15 minutes notice to launch on warning, where you need to have your big boy pants on, and Canada, as an infantilized Fake Country pseudo colony, not only never puts its big boy pants on, but rather doesn't even have any big boy pants at all to put on, even if it was ever inclined to want big boy pants, which it doesn't. There was a brief moment when the Mulroney Government tried to lead the Canadian public to put their big boy pants on for polar under ice operations by SSN in the big leagues and at the time the Americans and British were willing to accept Canada into the fold, however the Canadian electorate shot Mulroney down on that, hard, "No big boy pants for us, that's the American's job!", as you would expect pseudo colonists of the United States to say. In the ensuing years Canada has become ever more infantilized to the point where the Americans and British would never invite us into the fold now.