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In canada? Lols if anything it'll happen in the states before it ever happens in canada. You guys are way too non confrontational with each other.

Best way to find money to pay for the extra spending is to adopt free trade with us. Trump was trying to do the right thing and your PM talked behind his back. Not even man enough to face him and now decided to adopt further tariff to escalate. Only to appeal for political point whilst harming canadian interest.

I honestly think the best case scenario is to make running for public office require military service. At least that way we don't get shit head in office who put our military in a position of jeopardy and then send 18 year old to fight because they couldnt fight the soft threats infront of their face and let it manifest into a physical threat.

Look, we already invaded you, get over it. In fact I invaded Vancouver two months ago. Spent 3 grand invading you.

The Chinese were trying to buy their way into the Arctic council but Uncle Sam stopped them. "Denmark spurned Chinese offer for Greenland base over security Danish politicians did not want to jeopardise their country’s relationship with the United States, Copenhagen’s main ally, by granting another power a potentially military foothold in Greenland, the sources told Reuters. " https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-denmark-china-greenland-base-idUKKBN1782E2

I don't blame them, they suffer from the same mal-content of public support for their military. The same was true for us not too long ago. Canada need strong leadership and frankly Trudeau isn't cutting butter. They need strong leadership that can bring bi-partisan support for their military.

Uh your PM is the one doing all that. He's the one advocating for an open border. They have to cross through us before they get to you so actually it's the other way around, you should be paying us for steaming the migrants that you're openly inviting. “To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/justin-trudeau-forced-to-backtrack-on-open-invitation-to-refugees

I suggest the arctic circle being Canada's priority theater. That's the next point of conflict. America can take care of the pacific along with help from new Zealand, Australia, Britain and France. We're also trying to woo the Asean countries to our cause because they're just as weary of China's increasing malign influences in the region, laying vast claims of territory of the indo pacific and militarizing island reefs.

yup, just more noise from dipshit who never went into the sandbox

Space force!

It's difficult for them, they're griping about "National Defence fell $2.3 billion short" that's like loose change for us. Well its what we got to work with unfortunately. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sajjan-dnd-equipment-funds-1.4683606

fair enough but I'll give them credit where its due, at least they're making an effort to raise their defense spending. Slowly but grudgingly.

OMG people move the immigrant debate to that post I started one for this purpose. We're trying to talk about Nato deadbeats and the merit of democracy here.

I've said it before in other post so I'll say it again, its meant to offend as many Canadian and European liberal snowflakes as possible. Quick grab your shovel.

LOLS yeah okay, I guess we're so evil the rest of you all must really hate us. We'll go away now. Not sure if I'm talking to a communist Russian or not but I'll just assume you're anti-capitalist because you don't enjoy free-market. NOPE wrong again and please don't joke about this, I have many veteran friends going through their inner demons trying to keep it from consuming them. Often suicide seems like a quick escape. It's not for the reason you stated. It's because of the isolation they feel when they get home with nobody understanding the experiences that they been through. There's been much work done of helping veterans to connect and support one another. Actually talk to a vets before you disgrace your self with utter bullshit from Russia please.

Since when did we become imperialist? We help rebuild many of the shit-hole that came out of world war 2 or is that an inconvenient truth? It's called the marshal plan, look it up...you're basking in it still to this day. America promote a rule based order that benefited the free world for 70 years or is that too hegemonic and greedy. Hmmm

China's economy is as much dependent on the US as we are to them, this relationship benefit the world and both side. Their financial backing is as much useful to them as it is to us. They need greenbacks to stabilize their financial market with currency manipulation. But make no mistake, they're seeking to supplant the democratic model with the Ming dynasty model of vassal state, seeking military and economic veto over their neighboring countries. Where we must compete we will do so vigorously.

You're not really discussing the topic but feel free to bring up irrelevant examples of history about standing army. The standing army is about using the military against their own people not because we're trying to fend off external threats.

Hey brother thank you for your service, though we're on different sides of the border, we fight as one when shit hits the fan. America had the same exact problem with lack of funding and support of our military industrial complex because there were sentiment among the populous of what you described, the lack of political will. Trump is an agent of change, though he leaves much to be desired, his message was clear, we need to fully fund our military to see their mission succeed. The military held the line and bought us time so that we a-hole back home could figure out how much we let our service member down with continuation sequestration and lack of funding. There's a bright side to this, America has proven it's political will by passing a bi-partisan support of the largest military spending bill ever. This should an example to the rest of the free world suffering the same problem. Military support is a non partisan issue, as it should be. Don't buy in to the belief that you're simply paying for a Military Industrial Complex with no clear purpose. People need to realize that peace is expensive but war is much more costly. Whose the biggest threat to freedom to justify all this spending? China and Russia. They seek to undermine our western democratic model. Some NATO countries like Turkey and a few others started buying into that crap and adopted authoritarian rules. Erdogan is just the start, if we continue on this path of sticking our head in the sand and hoping it will go away that's what you're going to get the slow erosion of democracy until it morph into a de-facto dictatorship with real masters in Beijing and Moscow. As Zeitgeist point it out soft power is extremely important in curtailing those malign influences but it needs hard power support. You cannot have one without the other and expect the mission to succeed. You need a strong military to deter aggression so your diplomat can focus on soft-power projects and negotiate from a position of strength. As much shit as I give you cannucks I know it is un-realistic to ask every NATO member to start building Aircraft-carriers. That's not what we are asking, we're asking you re-invest into your military and don't let their capabilities erode. Hit the 2 percent GDP marker. If everybody in NATO could at least do that then America can focus its effort in our priority theater the indo-pacific. I might also add that if Canada want to be at the fore front of this fight, you should focus your efforts closer to shore, the arctic circle. Russia is trying to lay vast claims of territory and resources in the arctic ocean of which you also share borders. You need more ice-breakers and submarines to combat these threats as well as a host of support infrastructure to support them.

Yup soft power is equally as important as hard power. At the end of the day that's the whole point of even having hard power.

I agree with most of this post except one point. The US does not simply fund the Military Industrial Complex because there's a conspiracy to or just to do so for the sake of financial benefit but rather we see security as a vital foundation of democracy. Since day one of independence America had to fight for its own existence in the shadow of colonization and empires. Yes having a strong military is one of the core requirement of being a super power. We acknowledge and approve of it willingly not because of some misguided belief that we're simply funding some industrial base with no greater purpose. We consider ourselves a revolutionary force and the best 240 year old experiment that ever existed. That's all this is, an experiment, there's no holy scripture claiming America has the right to exist. It only exist because brave men and women fought to defend it and kept this experiment going. We in the younger generation see a continuation of our fore-bearer's "so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom".

We have some of the lowest trade barrier around, why do you think america's economy is the world's envy. And yes trump is pushing for free trade across nato . Get on board the trump train.

See, i knew you were a united earth directorate when i see one....look your only real strategy for establishing a one world order is to have china with russia fight us and start world war 3.

I just assume that the flow of water from rain is greater than what they can feasibly pump out. We're probably talking about a lake size amount of water and the thai goverment probably only have portable pump with no where to drain that water to. It takes 5 hours to dive and traverse the entrance path so not an easy feat to ask of weakened young kids. I suspect they will try to install air exchange pipes for them. Oxygen scrubber is viable too but getting those equipment inside the cave is probably very difficult.

Your population is too small to sustain those kind of industry. It's just cheaper to sell to the Americans. No point resisting, just adopt unilateral free trade, it'll make everybody's life a lot easier.