Zeitgeist

All a bunch a hooey from those wippasnappas I tell you. I’m guessing you’re 90 years old?

No, you don’t see how your extreme notion of health purity is the enemy of the good. It’s a totalitarian controlling mindset. Instead of celebrating the fact that Canada has one of the highest vaccination rates, you need 100% at all costs. You dismiss the interests of those who don’t want to follow the mandate and say, “They have a choice”, no matter how coerced or denigrated these people are. I’ve said it all along, your attitude scares me more than Covid or any number of threats. Anyway, been there done that with these conversations. Enjoy your more controlling government.

Yes I do.

Again, eyeball and Moonbox are the neighbours who smugly turn people into authorities if a law is unethical merely because it’s “the law.” We’ve seen these moves before in the darkest days of civilization. Those who lived in Nazi occupied Europe or Stalinist Russia could tell you all about it. The Romanians are very tuned into what has been happening in Canada. Sadly, I don’t think eyeball and Moonbox are exceptional. Their approaches are typical of human nature.

You’re wrong on a few counts, but we’ve had these conversations. The biggest concern I and many others have with your views is this idea that government should be able to dictate your health program to the extent of removing constitutional rights and one’s ability to earn a livelihood. I don’t care that 90% of the population is vaccinated. I’m vaccinated too. That doesn’t give government the right to oppress people who don’t accept a government health regimen. We have minority rights in our Constitution to protect people against the tyranny of the majority. I think part of the reason you don’t care is because you can’t fathom why someone wouldn’t get vaccinated, and I don’t just mean people with medical exemptions. This is about protecting individual rights. The Canadian government revealed itself as against those rights. I already know your counter-arguments and I’ll always disagree with them. If we don’t protect rights for all, don’t complain when your rights are trounced on when you take issue with a government mandate.

A good article about the loss of democracy in Canada: https://apple.news/A8uSSnys_QpqP9PDiGxC6OA

I think you’re gullible and unquestioning.

You have focused on the same elements of the convoy that mainstream media did. Pat King didn’t figure into the press conferences. The speakers had very reasonable things to say and most of the protesters were typical Canadians of all backgrounds with legitimate concerns. I can’t help but feel that you’re watching television to get your news, as most people now, especially younger ones, are getting news from podcasts, YouTube, and more specialized cable programming. I recommend Bari Weiss’s Substack newsletter. Jordan Peterson’s interviews are quite good (JBP Podcast), and The Hill on YouTube. Your outlook feels like CTV nightly news.

The reason I’ve flipped politically toward the US Republicans is because it’s become ultra clear that protecting a lifestyle remotely resembling the standard of living that most Canadians value against the onslaught of climate change alarmism and the creeping fascist controls over human behaviour is by pushing back as hard as possible. Trudeau is maintaining the punishing schedule of carbon taxes despite the dangerously high cost of living because it will end any discretionary spending, reduce our travel and the size of our living spaces, and it will put us on a track towards greater dependence on government and greater government control. This is in keeping with the WEF plan and Trudeau is adamant about pushing this through against all opposition, no matter how unconstitutional or how much it “bites”. No one is saying that we shouldn’t seek green alternatives where there’s bang for the buck or the costs aren’t heavy, but the current plan of adding carbon taxes and shutting down drilling despite hyperinflation and a military threat from an energy superpower, is a recipe for servitude and poverty.

You’re too unquestioning. I’ll assume your self-affirmation is tongue in cheek.

A sensible article on resolving the situation in Ukraine: https://apple.news/AfhQzzvrAQ3COpNYZvquWog

I understand why the truckers took a stand over mandates, and I do think it served to remove them in some provinces for all the residents there. They really had no other means to show their opposition outside of protest. Their civil disobedience was not violent, though I agree it was disruptive. However, the blockades were removed and the honking curtailed prior to issuing the Emergencies Act. Trudeau still won’t discuss the removal of mandates and his descriptions of protesters and the unvaccinated were discriminatory and divisive. I believe in vaccines, but the pressure brought to bear on the unvaccinated, I and millions of Canadians believe, is unethical and unconstitutional. With regard to comments about mainstream media, the major news outlets in Canada did seem to editorialize against the protesters, painting them much the way Trudeau did, with one brush that identified them with a small more extreme element in the convoy. It wasn’t fair and thousands of Canadians feel mistreated because they were mistreated. I’ll stop my hyperbole, but it was intentional, because the status quo isn’t okay. We see an out of touch government that has pushed its agenda beyond was is reasonable or even constitutional. It’s polarized Canadians and reduced people’s confidence in government and the country as a whole, after a period in which Canada has been slammed as colonial, racist, and other negative qualities, even though anyone who knows something about world history can only see Canada in a positive light relative to just about every other country. To me and many Canadians, this is Trudeau’s legacy.

I’m educated too. My point is that I’ve been running with that same worldview for years: smear the Americans as military adventurists as Canada rides on their defence coattails, ask for more handouts from government for a population that increasingly can’t do or think for themselves, constantly try to outshine your peers in appearing to be progressive as you don’t associate with blue collar people. That’s what our government and just about everyone in Canadian politics has become. It’s gross and anyone who questions it is some kind of freak. It’s become a national embarrassment, the holier than thou hypocritical wokester. Trudeau is the exemplar. Yet we see how he describes the opposition and how he has treated some women in his party. It’s ridiculous.

No hablo Español. I think you know I’m using hyperbole, but I’m trying to illustrate how off the deep end politics has become in Canada. We don’t accept middle ground anymore, let alone conservative or right wing. I’m sure you attend all the same kinds of anti-Black racism sessions that I do. I’m sure you say a two page land acknowledgment that takes up about a quarter of your meetings. I’m sure that your hyper-educated urban friends, like just about everyone I know, say self-righteous pro-government things all the time, looking down on the unvaccinated, calling the Conservatives alt-right nut jobs, yada yada. Frankly it’s all become so predictable and politically correct and phoney. Why not give every politician and business leader a script to read? It will sound like anything from Macron, Trudeau, Biden. Lots of BS about equity and the environment as the public are crushed by carbon taxes and regulations up the wazoo, as our organizations become dysfunctional virtue purity contests, and our ability to defend our country or even feel proud of our country dissipates. I’ve sung from that song sheet so long my ears are sore.

There’s no debate. The opposition is always racist-fringe-Nazi with “unacceptable views”.

It’s too bad because he’s pretty smart and courageous. I love watching him dismantle smarmy smug self-righteous green-woke fascists. It’s hard though because they’re everywhere in Ottawa. Polievre will be called racist-fringe-Nazi because that’s what people who don’t support the Trudeau-Freeland-Singh dictatorship are always labeled. I can already hear the CBC narration, “Polievre’s critics say he has an alt-right agenda and will take away a woman’s right to choose. He has met with protesters from the “Freedom Convoy” which many have said have links to white supremacist groups.” That’s it, campaign over, Liberals win again…

I don’t think anyone on this forum is unsympathetic to the Ukrainian people. Invading Ukraine is over the top and must end. It’s important to know what motivated Putin to make this move rather than jumping to the low resolution “Putin is a psychopath” rage, because it doesn’t provide a resolution.

Who? Right now there’s one leadership candidate to my knowledge.

She’s well aware of its significance.

Time to move on. If you’re worried about the impact of Covid, take extra precautions. Too much non-Covid suffering now after two years of privation. It’s not worth having restrictions and mandates. I mean you can have them and live under tyranny, but that’s what it is.

The people have spoken. Liberal government forever. Just face it, if the Conservatives run as conservatives, they lose. If the Conservatives run as Liberals, they lose. There are no political options in Canada.

Again, no true conservatives or centrists are electable anymore in ChiCan, so just fold all parties into the Liberal Party of Canada. I think Canada can be run out of China and the World Economic Forum at this point. Think Hong Kong. Canadians don’t really want to think for themselves or be guaranteed rights, so might as well go all in. I’ll try to move to Britain or Florida.

That’s why I think Canada may be a write-off, stuck with quasi-dictatorial Liberal government forever. Too many fearful people who can’t think for themselves or question government. Watching Trudeau in office is like watching someone else’s child tear through a department store shouting and stealing or destroying merchandise. Most people just ignore such people or go somewhere else, but almost no one will confront the child or parents of the child.

Nothing will change on abortion or gay rights no matter who leads the Cons or wins the election. The science tells us mandates and restrictions are no longer necessary, but we’re keeping them federally because…No one knows but people are genuinely suffering because of them. Trudeau won’t discuss. If not Polievre then who? I like Leslyn but Pierre has been leading the charge on important issues with powerful arguments. In any event, she isn’t running. Rempel? Another Liberal I think. Charest? Too 20 years ago. His approach seems quaint today. There were some amazing speeches from various Conservative MPs about the Emergencies Act. That Lakelands MP Stubbs was very strong, but these people aren’t running and I don’t know enough about them. I like Candice Bergen, but again, she’s not running.

It’s not justifiable to require people to wear masks anymore. Wear one to protect yourself if you please. If I’m around an elderly or morbidly obese person indoors I’ll maintain 2 metres distance or wear a mask.