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Putin and the anti-Covid restriction people on here have something in common. They both call democratic countries Nazis. Putin would be so happy with you..

Guess what? Putin calls western democracies Nazis and had a rally with thousands of supporters. Putin had a sign on the stage that said "For a world without Nazism". So you folks on here who call Canada's government Nazis have something in common. Putin and yourselves call democratic countries Nazis. Putin would love you.

One interesting fact is that Darwin predicted that transitional evidence (fossils for example) would be found showing the gradual transition between species. The truth is no such transitional evidence has been found. Quote That quote!—about the missing transitional fossils Embarrassed evolutionists try to ‘muddy the waters’ by Gary Bates Published: 18 February 2008 (GMT+10) Anyone reading creationist literature for a few years soon becomes aware that we often use quotes by evolutionists which discredit their own belief system. This raises the ire of many in the evolutionary establishment, and often they will accuse creationists of ‘taking their remarks out of context’. This is rarely the case. However, one can imagine that the spectre of condemnation from fellow evolutionists would these days tend to limit any careless remarks from the pro-evolutionary camp. One of the most famous and widely circulated quotes was made a couple of decades ago by the late Dr Colin Patterson, who was at the time the senior paleontologist (fossil expert) at the prestigious British Museum of Natural History. So damning was the quote—about the scarcity of transitional forms (the ‘in-between kinds’ anticipated by evolution) in the fossil record—that one anticreationist took it upon himself to ‘right the creationists’ wrongs’. He wrote what was intended to be a major essay showing how we had ‘misquoted’ Dr Patterson.1 This accusation still appears occasionally in anticreationist circles, so it is worth revisiting in some detail. Dr Patterson had written a book for the British Museum simply called Evolution.2 Creationist Luther Sunderland wrote to Dr Patterson inquiring why he had not shown one single photograph of a transitional fossil in his book. Patterson then wrote back with the following amazing confession which was reproduced, in its entirety, in Sunderland’s book Darwin’s Enigma: ‘I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?’ He went on to say: ‘Yet Gould [Stephen J. Gould—the now deceased professor of paleontology from Harvard University] and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. … You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.’3 Unquote That quote!—about the missing transitional fossils - creation.com There are countless articles on this subject refuting the theory of evolution.

No, the theory of evolution has not been based on the same research as vaccines. Evolution is only a theory and has never been proven to be true. Because of the vast time scales involved, it is impossible to replicate evolution in a laboratory. Vaccines have been developed, tried and tested, and proven to work. So they are two totally different subjects. Trying to equate or link the two subjects and claim they are both based on science or more correctly the scientific method is indeed cognitive dissonance on your part. Ask any scientist. Evolution is purely a theory or speculation and has never been proven by the scientific method, which is the gold standard for science. Yet it is taught in schools and around the world as if it is fact, only proving truth is difficult to find in the world. It is taken as fact by many people but in reality it is pure dogma with no solid evidence or proof. The theory of evolution has been found wanting in a number of ways. There are many articles that debunk the theory of evolution. This website has many and this is just one article: Appendix 1: Common arguments for evolution that have been rejected - creation.com

It seems there are a number of people on here who are severely mentally challenged and they have zero logic skills or knowledge of the real world and what is going on. For example, the anti-Covid restriction people are a clear example of these kind of people. They love to call the vaccine passport a Nazi health pass. This is a prime example of severe mental delusion. I am not sure how anyone equates an identification card which is simply meant to prove one has had two shots of vaccination to help protect people in a restaurant from catching Covid with a Nazi ID card. Not sure how they reason this has anything at all to do with Nazis in Hitler's Germany. Nobody is forced to get vaccinated or get a vaccine passport. Nobody was forcing them to go to those restaurants. They can buy groceries, eat at home, or go through a drive-through to take out food. So it is ridiculous nonsense to equate the card with Nazis. The kind of people who push this idea will never be normal, sane, rational people as far as I can tell. They are in need of serious counseling over a long period of time. The Covid health measures were there to protect everyone's health and life. These people who are obsessed with such nonsense and think the Nazis are in control need help. We need to pray for them. But it is no use trying to engage with them.

It's not patriotism. The large flags are carried to fool people like you. Apparently they are doing a good job.

You are 100% correct. I realized long ago that I am talking to a group of programmed robots on here and it is largely a waste of time. They are ideologically driven and no amount of reasoning will change their minds. Science doesn't mean a thing with them. They are part of a lunatic fringe. I saw one today driving a pickup with a trailer with big Canadian flag hanging off the back of the trailer. The good thing about them having a big flag is it serves as a warning that the guy driving the truck is a nutcase and we should avoid them at all costs.

I don't believe or follow that kind of stuff, that sounds questionable.

Yes, Putin, his circle, and the Russian military are committing war crimes in the Ukraine. They are deliberately targeting civilians, families, children and destroying complete residential buildings and cities. Anybody who thinks Russiaphobia is a thing needs to seek mental help. quote On Saturday, Russia bombarded cities across Ukraine, pounding Mariupol in the south, shelling the outskirts of the capital, Kyiv, and thwarting the efforts of people trying to flee the violence. In Mariupol, which has endured some of the worst punishment since Russia invaded, efforts to bring food, water and medicine into the port city of 430,000 and to evacuate civilians, were prevented by unceasing attacks. More than 1,500 people have died in Mariupol during the siege, according to the mayor's office, and the shelling has even interrupted efforts to bury the dead in mass graves. unquote Russians strike closer to Polish border, port city reels (msn.com)

Another thread started by and commented on mostly by the ignorant Commie-Putin lovers.

haha. You're not making much sense there. Can't figure out what you're trying to say. Let's stay asway from Covid on this thread. Stick to the subject and the meat of comments.

The subject in this thread is Putin and the war in the Ukraine. Why do you have to hijack every thread to push your conspiracy anti-vax ideas?

You are an anti-vaxxer who is just looking for an excuse to justify your belief. Vaccines are a way to protect our neighbours and vulnerable members of society. They are an act of love toward our neighbour and loved ones.

I think you are desperately trying to find something but you fail on all counts. "The non-replicating viral vector vaccine produced by Johnson & Johnson did require the use of fetal cell cultures, specifically PER.C6, in order to produce and manufacture the vaccine. The Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission have both stated that receiving a COVID-19 vaccine that required fetal cell lines for production or manufacture is morally acceptable. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops goes further and has stated: “receiving a COVID-19 vaccine ought to be understood as an act of charity toward the other members of our community. In this way, being vaccinated safely against COVID-19 should be considered an act of love of our neighbor and part of our moral responsibility for the common good...Given the urgency of this crisis, the lack of available alternative vaccines, and the Updated: 12/1/2021 fact that the connection between an abortion that occurred decades ago and receiving a vaccine produced today is remote, inoculation with the new COVID-19 vaccines in these circumstances can be morally justified.” COVID-19_Vaccine_Fetal_Cell_Handout.pdf

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were found to be ethically uncontroversial by the pro-life policy organization the Charlotte Lozier Institute. I accept what the experts say unlike you.

No. I think they said some aborted cells were used many decades ago to develop some vaccines, but those abortions were not for the purpose of vaccine development. "the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has stated: “neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine. However, such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both vaccines. Thus, while neither vaccine is completely free from any use of abortion-derived cell lines, in these two cases the use is very remote from the initial evil of the abortion…one may receive any of the clinically recommended vaccines in good conscience with the assurance that reception of such vaccines does not involve immoral cooperation in abortion.”

Of course it doesn't bother me because there is no viable connection to fetal cells or abortion. You didn't do any reading to see what the subject is all about. There is no abortion material used in the Covid vaccines.

We agree with almost every point you made, except I am not convinced the US election was stolen. There may have been a lot of questionable practices and some irregularities but the legal system did not prove the election was a fraud. In the end we have to go by what the legal system decides. That is only a claim made by Trump and many of his supporters. So we actually agree on almost every point. I don't know anything about Neil Cavuto, Mitt Romney, or Jonah Goldberg. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about American politicians. Too many other things to do and read.

That has been debunked. There are no fetal cells or anything near it in the vaccines. "Why are fetal cells used to make vaccines? Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions and have been used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. Abortions from which fetal cells were obtained were elective and were not done for the purpose of vaccine development. The fetal cell lines being used to test or manufacture the COVID-19 vaccines are from two sources: ● HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a fetus in 1973 (undisclosed origin, from either a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion) ● PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from an aborted fetus in 1985 Any vaccine that relies on these historic cell lines will not require nor solicit new abortions To develop and manufacture some vaccines, pharmaceutical companies prefer human cell lines over other cells because 1) viruses need cells to grow and the viruses tend to grow better in cells from humans than animals (because they infect humans), 2) fetal cells can be used longer than other cell types, and 3) fetal cells can be maintained at low temperatures, allowing scientists to continuing using cell lines from decades ago. While fetal cell lines may be used to develop or manufacture COVID-19 vaccines, the vaccines themselves do not contain any aborted fetal cells. A comprehensive list of COVID-19 vaccines in development and any connection to abortion-derived cell lines is available here. Were the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines developed using fetal cell lines? The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna do not require the use of any fetal cell cultures in order to manufacture (produce) the vaccine. Early in the development of mRNA vaccine technology, fetal cells were used for “proof of concept” (to demonstrate how a cell could take up mRNA and produce the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein) or to characterize the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were found to be ethically uncontroversial by the pro-life policy organization the Charlotte Lozier Institute. Further, the Secretariat of Pro-Life Activities, a committee within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has stated: “neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine. However, such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both vaccines. Thus, while neither vaccine is completely free from any use of abortion-derived cell lines, in these two cases the use is very remote from the initial evil of the abortion…one may receive any of the clinically recommended vaccines in good conscience with the assurance that reception of such vaccines does not involve immoral cooperation in abortion.” COVID-19_Vaccine_Fetal_Cell_Handout.pdf

Trudeau says Putin / Russia will lose the war in the Ukraine. Russia is a superpower and nobody is stopping him invade and destroy the Ukraine. What kind of pot is Trudeau smoking? Is he serious? Russia may also use chemical weapons to destroy the population of the Ukraine. He doesn't care about the people a bit. He is destroying them. He is destroying every apartment building he can. What makes Trudeau think Putin will "lose the war"? Trudeau and his father did what they could to reduce the Canadian military to a very insignificant force. We have no air force or navy to speak of. The CAF is only around 60 or 70 thousand. Yet we have one of the largest land masses in the world. Nobody is patrolling the Arctic or the coasts. Trudeau talks big when he is over in Europe and with NATO, but he (Canada) only contributes 1.4% when they were committed to contribute 2% of GDP to the military. NATO is a joke. Europe and Canada know full well they must rely on U.S.A. to protect them. If there ever was a nuclear attack from Russia, the missiles would fly right over the north pole and over Canada because that is the shortest route from Russia.

Please define for me what you think being conservative means and why you think I am not. Liberals support same-sex marriage, LGBT ideology, abortion, all of which I oppose. I believe in Capitalism and not Socialism. I oppose unnecessary government intervention in the economy. Where do you stand on these things? I support pipelines and the energy industry and oppose carbon taxes. I think man-made climate change is a fraud. What do you think? We will see who is a real conservative if you speak the truth.

I side with anybody on the health restrictions and against illegal thugs that occupy streets. Nothing to do with left or right. I support law and order.

What makes you think I am a liberal? Because I support the health restrictions to protect Canadians? You're not that bright.

I am not a lefty. Been a member of the Conservative Party for 30 years. It has been reported on the news they bombed a children's hospital and a women's birth hospital. They found a few bodies, but there may be more under the rubble. Trudeau says Russia will lose the war against the Ukraine. What will Trudeau do if Russia uses chemical weapons on the civilians of the Ukraine? So far they have been bombing the civilians, apartments buildings and everything possible. NATO is powerless to stop them. What will they do if the Russians start using chemical weapons? Can the determined Ukrainian men keep fighting if tens of thousands of civilians are dying from chemical weapons? Do you have any suggestions?

You realize it is a total waste of time talking to some of these people who oppose mandates, health restrictions, and support Covid conspiracy theories. They think they have the right to blockade highways, borders, and occupy streets with impunity. You are talking to a brick wall.