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A pair of Conservative MPs will try to compel a CBC executive and a journalism standards director to appear before a House of Commons committee to defend the company's language guide — which discourages the use of the words "terrorism" and "terrorists" when describing attacks and their perpetrators.
Alberta Conservative MP Rachael Thomas, the party's Canadian heritage critic, said in a statement posted to social media that the idea is to hold the Crown corporation accountable for what she calls "its biased coverage of Hamas' attack on Israel."
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1 hour ago, taxme said:
that the land that Israel sits on today is stolen Palestinian land.
So you claim it is but that would be disputed by Israel.
On the basis of that claim, do you support Hamas and the murder of 1,200 innocent men, women, children and babies? This seems like a no-brainer. But your anti-Israel stance is completely wrong.
The fact is Israel has a right to the land and is recognized as a state by most of the world, including Canada.
You are making a foolish argument at a time when Israel is being attacked by terrorists and has a right to defend itself.
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11 minutes ago, taxme said:
Show pictures all you want to, but the fact still remains that, and you still will not admit it, that the land that Israel sits on today is stolen Palestinian land. Anything shown or talked about on Wikipedia cannot be noted as always factual but should always be fact checked first.
I am being rational. It is your bias and prejudice against the Palestinian people that is the problem. Why you give a crap about what goes on in this feud is beyond me. What goes on in England does not matter to me because I do not live there, and believe me when I say that there is lots to discuss about as to what goes on in England.
You are just parroting the Palestinian anti-Israel line. It has no meaning.
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5 minutes ago, taxme said:
the land that Israel sits on today is stolen Palestinian land.
That is false. I gave you the detailed history the land, but you refuse to even look at it.
That land has been controlled by many different groups over the centuries. The point is owning a lot by an individual does not determine statehood. I explained the land became the State of Israel in 1948 and was recognized by the world as the State of Israel. Every sovereign country has the right to determine its laws and the administration of land ownership. That is the same in Canada and everywhere else.
5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:That's taxme that you're quoting there, not me.
Yes, sorry. I deleted it and reposted to taxme.
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12 minutes ago, taxme said:
So, if the Israelis bought the land, why do the Palestinians keep saying that Israel stole their land? Well?
The area which Israel is located in has been fought over for several thousand years. I gave you the link on Wikipedia that goes into detail of who controlled what over the past several thousand years. Did you even bother to read it? Or are you going to stick to your meaningless Palestinian claim that the land is "stolen". That doesn't help anything.
It is completely false.
There was no state called Palestine. The word Palestine is a generic word simple referring to the whole area. It was the term given to the general area by the Roman Empire 2,000 years ago. One article says the Romans named it Palestine as a kind of insult to the Jews who lived there for many centuries. The name Palestine is a derivative from Philistines, which were a traditional enemy of Israel.
It has been occupied by Jews and Arabs going back thousands of years. But there is much more detail of who conquered and occupied it in the Wikipedia article.
History of Palestine - Wikipedia
In the 1940s, I believe the area was designated as belonging to Israel by the League of Nations, the forerunner to the United Nations. In 1948 Israel officially became the State of Israel. Many, if not most, Muslim countries do not acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
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After considering the situation, I believe that Israel needs to respect international law for protection of civilians. There should be a safe corridor to get food, medical supplies, fuel, and humanitarian aid in and they should move hospital patients out of the area. Possibly move them to hospitals in Israel if Egypt won't help. If Egypt is refusing to help in this crisis, they must be excluded from having any say in the government of the Gaza. Israel may have to take over semi-permanent control in order to bring order and peace to the area.
The people who are being asked to move out of the populated areas need to be put in refugee camps and sheltered and fed and the U.N. needs to step up to look after them until they can return to their homes. The U.N. does a lot of talking. What actual aid and actions are they doing to take care of the civilians?
Thirdly, Gaza cannot remain governed as it has been. Hamas must be eliminated and Israel will have to take over governing it at least temporarily until a satisfactory solution is achieved. That will have to be an absolute necessity to avoid this type of war again. But I am not sure the people of Gaza will accept or allow Israel to govern them. They have been used as pawns in the Israel - Palestinian conflict. They need clean water, food, etc. in the meantime.
The Bloc leader from Quebec correctly says there will not be lasting peace until Hamas is rooted out. He is correct of course. Terrorists cannot exist in the area and people still expect to have peace.
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2 hours ago, taxme said:
I am still waiting for someone like you to show me as to where are the pictures or videos of those babies having their heads chopped off by Hamas? If it were true, then Israel should show those scenes. Just asking.
Israel has long resisted displaying the gross images for the right reasons. Israel did not see it as the right way to garner international support. It becomes a mud-slinging match and Israel believes it is disrespectful to human life. But if you want some confirmation that images exist, you can read this report:
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The images from the October 7 massacre in southern Israel are extraordinarily difficult to behold. Charred bodies, babies riddled with bullet holes, elderly women shot in the head. The depths of Hamas’s depravity are impossible to comprehend.
And yet, after reporters who visited one of the kibbutzim targeted by the genocidal terrorist group last weekend reported that dozens of children had been brutally murdered, the response from some wasn’t horror and revulsion, but rather mockery and incredulity.
This was particularly apparent on X (formerly known as Twitter), a cesspool inhabited by some of the absolute worst of humanity, where some users poked fun at the reporters and openly questioned the veracity of their reports.
In response, Israel violated a longstanding practice.
For years, successive Israeli governments have resisted displaying the mangled bodies, the severed limbs, or the pools of blood produced by Palestinian acts of terror. They did so out of a belief in the Jewish principle of kavod hamet – the dignity of the dead – as well as a refusal to stoop to the level of anti-Israel propagandists, who perversely parade the bodies of dead Palestinians in an effort to garner international support. unquote
Graphic images of Israeli terror victims confirmed an awful truth - editorial (msn.com)
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1 hour ago, taxme said:
But yet, you still refuse to agree that it was the Jews that stole the land from the Palestinians. As far as I know, there was once a country called Palestine at one time.
Obviously you have no idea what this land is all about.
The history is complex and I am not sure if you are seriously interested in facts.
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This article is about the history of Palestine. For the subject with a Jewish focus, see History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel. For the modern states in the area, see History of Israel (1948–present) and History of the State of Palestine.See also: Time periods in the Palestine region, Timeline of the Palestine region, and Timeline of the name Palestine
This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. Its current readable prose size is 131 kilobytes. Please consider splitting content into sub-articles, condensing it, or adding subheadings. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page. (February 2023)
History of Palestine 
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Strategically situated between three continents, the region of Palestine (also known as the Land of Israel and the Holy Land) has a tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce, and politics. Palestine is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity, and has been controlled by many kingdoms and powers, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient Israel and Judah, the Persian Empire, Alexander the Great and his successors, the Hasmoneans, the Roman Empire, several Muslim caliphates, and the crusaders. In modern times, the area was ruled by the Ottoman Empire, then the British Empire and since 1948 it has been divided into Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.
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History of Palestine - Wikipedia
This is just the beginning of this Wikipedia article on the history of the area. If you want to learn about it, it will require some effort and time.
I am not interested in getting into slinging match with you with unintelligent comments.
But if you want to discuss it rationally, that might be possible.
There is a lot more to this on Wikipedia which I quoted the beginning of.
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48 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:
Not true at all. Canada’s population and economy are both larger than Australia yet Australia is colonizing Canada
If Canada had the investors and money to do the mining and resource extraction, it would be doing it. Nothing to stop you or anyone from starting your own company. The reason we have multinational companies is because they are the ones with the money. It is not government's job to use taxpayer money to create companies if that's what you're thinking. It must be left to private enterprise because they know what is best. That's how a capitalist system works. We don't want a Socialist or Communist system.
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39 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:
I don’t know why you think it’s impossible for Canadians to own and operate their own businesses like they do in other countries or that it’s better for us to be a nation workers controlled by a foreign owner instead of being the businesses owners ourselves
It's simple really. Canada doesn't have the investors with the money to start multinational corporations, mining companies, oil companies or McDonalds. There are a few Canadian companies, but when it takes hundreds of millions of dollars to build a company, we don't have it. So without that investment by multinational companies, we would have next to nothing.
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The U.N. security council will be debating a motion tomorrow to call for a cease fire and release of hostages.
It is well-established that the U.N. constantly has passed motions against Israel and as an organization has no interest in protecting or assuring the continued existence of Israel.
This motion will not provide security for Israel. As part of it they want to carve Israel up and create two states. This would further weaken Israel and create an official terrorist state that would threaten the very existence of Israel.
How will a cease fire eliminate the threat posed by the existence of Hamas and other terrorist groups?
They have just murdered at least 1,600 innocent civilians including beheading of babies.
There is no way that Israel should be expected to live under the threat of terrorist groups like Hamas.
How will a cease fire stop Hamas backed by Iran from launching thousands more sophiscated rockets and terrorist attacks of civilians in Israel?
Of course the answer is it won't. A cease fire will simply protect Hamas and allow it to build up and plan for the next terrorist attack.
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The United Nations Security Council could debate two separate resolutions on Monday put forward by Russia and Brazil, calling for a Gaza cease-fire and the release of the over 150 hostages seized by Hamas during an October 7th assault on Israel.
“We are convinced that the Security Council must act to put an end to the bloodshed and restart peace negotiations, with the view to establishing a Palestinian state as it was supposed to do so long ago,” Russian Ambassador to the UN Vassily Nebenzia told reporters in New York."
UNSC may call for Gaza war cease-fire, release of hostages (msn.com)
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47 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:
Was. The big Canadian companies are foreign owned now.
So what? Foreign owned is better than doing nothing. Canada is still in the driver's seat and charges royalties and makes all the laws and regulations. Foreign investment makes our natural resource industry possible in Canada and creates thousands or millions of good-paying jobs and spin-off jobs for Canadians and brings in lots of royalties and tax revenue that pay for our health care system, and everything else.
Forest industries in B.C. for example are likely multinational corporations. Many towns exist in B.C. because of the existence of the forest industry. Logging, sawmills, and pulp mills because of multinational corporations that bring the money to do the job. I know for a fact many people own homes, have two vehicles in the family, cars, pickup trucks. There are motorhomes in yards, large RV trailers, and cabin cruiser boats worth 100 or 150 thousand dollars parked in front of houses. That is what multinationals brought Canadians. Of course their shareholder investors get a percentage on their investment but that is how Capitalism works. It creates wealth and millions of jobs.
Where else in the world do people own all these homes, motor vehicles, RVs, and large cabin cruiser pleasure craft? You won't find them in Russia, Africa, Asia, South America, or Europe. Canada has lots of valuable natural resources and we are developing them. The only problem is the federal government that often gets in the way and takes years to approve a project. Plus all the taxes, regulations and red tape that is causing massive housing shortages and high costs of food.
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"For Hamas, peace can only come to the Middle East when the Jews have been exterminated or expelled. The 1988 Hamas Covenant , which outlines its goals, intentions and direction, states that, “The Palestinian problem is a religious problem.” Followers of other religions who dispute Islam’s sovereignty in the region will be met with “nothing but carnage, displacement and terror.”
The promised carnage and terror arrived early in the morning on Oct. 7. Babies beheaded , as has now been confirmed by Israeli government sources, with mothers and fathers also butchered at the Kfar Aza kibbutz. Around 260 party-goers slaughtered at a music festival with reports of multiple rapes.
People gunned down as they waited at bus stops or going about their daily lives, the bodies left strewn in streets and houses. Up to 150 people kidnapped and now held hostage in Gaza, with Hamas threatening to execute them. The list of atrocities goes on from the rampage that left over 1,300 Israelis dead.
By committing such heinous acts, making no attempt to hide their vile crimes, Hamas announced to the world that it was at war with Israel. Canada must therefore act immediately against Hamas and those who fund it, supply arms to it and allow its terrorist activities to endanger innocent lives and global stability.
Canada should begin lobbying the International Criminal Court (ICC) to investigate Hamas for war crimes. Taking hostages, mutilating bodies, rape and attacking civilians are all war crimes under international law. Any investigation should encompass Ismail Haniyeh , the millionaire leader of Hamas who lives in luxury in Qatar and ordered the attacks.
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" Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper ceased aid to UNRWA because of its alleged ties to Hamas, but the Liberals restored funding in 2016. This aid should be halted immediately."
NP View: Canada must help bring Hamas down (msn.com)
Why are Trudeau and the Liberals always so slow to act or unwilling to act at all on important issues?
Europe and the other countries of the Five Eyes seem to be far ahead of Canada in doing something about threats.
We have seen how slow Canada acted with regard to Huawei, slow in dealing with election interference. Opposition parties begged the government for months to start an enquiry but they never acted until the fiasco with the former governor general played out and he resigned.
Notice babies beheaded has now been confirmed by Israeli government sources.
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A news article describes some of the horrors found in the genocide by Hamas.
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The images from the October 7 massacre in southern Israel are extraordinarily difficult to behold. Charred bodies, babies riddled with bullet holes, elderly women shot in the head. The depths of Hamas’s depravity are impossible to comprehend.
And yet, after reporters who visited one of the kibbutzim targeted by the genocidal terrorist group last weekend reported that dozens of children had been brutally murdered, the response from some wasn’t horror and revulsion, but rather mockery and incredulity.
This was particularly apparent on X (formerly known as Twitter), a cesspool inhabited by some of the absolute worst of humanity, where some users poked fun at the reporters and openly questioned the veracity of their reports."
Graphic images of Israeli terror victims confirmed an awful truth - editorial (msn.com).
The worst of humanity are self-identifying as complete degenerates.
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18 minutes ago, eyeball said:
Backpedaling now won't make much difference, the damage has been done. Hatred and the thirst for vengeance has been pushed to the center of the global catwalk and you don't get to be neutral.
The Israeli government is not "backpedaling". News outlets made some of the reports, and the Israel government spokesman simply said they cannot confirm the story. The damage was done by Hamas that murdered at least 1,200 innocent men, women, children, and babies. Whether or not the Israeli government is reporting the story accurately doesn't change the barbarism and savagery of Hamas. Maybe they don't have all the facts yet. They are correct to not make definitive statements if they have not corroborated it. You should be focused on the perpetrators, not trying to find fault with the Israeli government.
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2 hours ago, taxme said:
Why allow yourself to be supporting a group of hateful murderers? Israel has killed many innocent women and children in the Gaza. Both groups are murderers. Live with it.
Your ignorance is astounding. Israel is only defending itself, which any nation has a right to do. They have constantly been attacked by terrorists and you can't see that. Very tragic.
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1 hour ago, taxme said:
That story about Hamas cutting the heads off babies is a bit much for me. If Hamas did such a thing, why did they not show this on TV? Gory, but where is the beef. BS.
To begin with, TV stations don't like to show such horrors. Secondly, the Israeli government spokeperson(s) said the government cannot confirm the story about heads of babies being cut off.
This is what CNN says about it:
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“There have been cases of Hamas militants carrying out beheadings and other ISIS-style atrocities. However, we cannot confirm if the victims were men or women, soldiers or civilians, adults or children,” the official said.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated that people had been beheaded by Hamas in an appearance beside Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Thursday, but did not specify if they were children.
His office later released what it described as “horrifying photos of babies murdered and burned by the Hamas monsters.”
The three photos showed two babies whose bodies had been burned beyond recognition and a third infant’s bloodstained body.
The post said that Netanyahu showed Blinken the photos, as well as others.
The explosive allegations that children had been decapitated at the kibbutz of Kfar Aza emerged Tuesday in Israeli media. Israel Defense Forces later described the scene as a “massacre” in a statement to CNN. Women, children toddlers and the elderly were “brutally butchered in an ISIS way of action,” the IDF said.
Tal Heinrich, a spokeswoman for Netanyahu, said on Wednesday that babies and toddlers had been found with their “heads decapitated” in Kfar Aza.
In Israel, 'the place where you want your kids to grow up' has suddenly turned into the front line
US President Joe Biden appeared to confirm that information. In a roundtable with Jewish community leaders on Wednesday, he said: “I have been doing this a long time, I never really thought that I would see… have confirmed pictures of terrorist beheading children.”
A US administration official later clarified Biden’s remarks, telling CNN that neither Biden nor his aides had seen pictures or had received confirmed reports of children or infants having been beheaded by Hamas. The official clarified that Biden was referring to public comments from media outlets and Israeli officials.
An IDF spokesman, Jonathan Conricus, later in the day said terrorists had likely carried out decapitations of babies in the Be’eri kibbutz.
“We got very very disturbing reports that came from the ground that there were babies that had been beheaded… I think we can now say with relative confidence that unfortunately this is what happened in Be’eri,” he said.
Israeli officials initially avoided discussing the specifics of how its citizens were killed. They instead likened Hamas’ brutality to that of ISIS, the Sunni terror group that beheaded captives and burned prisoners alive.
Palestinians rescue a wounded man from the rubble of a destroyed building following an Israeli airstrike in Rafah, Gaza, on October 13.
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Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack | CNN
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1 hour ago, taxme said:
Thomas cannot be anti-semetic. Aren't the Arabs semites also?
That story about Hamas cutting the heads off babies is a bit much for me. If Hamas did such a thing, why did they not show this on TV? Gory, but where is the beef. BS.
I do not support Hamas or Israel. They both are a burden on the world. But the Palestinians do have a beef here. A beef where you could give a dam about.
Why allow yourself to be supporting a group of hateful murderers? Israel has killed many innocent women and children in the Gaza. Both groups are murderers. Live with it.
You should have been doing some study of this for years. The reports about the brutal murders by Hamas have been widely reported on the news for days. You could try Google if you want to know more details. Why would you expect me to provide proof of what has been on the media for the past week?
When we talk about anti-Semites or anti-Semitism with reference to the Holocaust, Israel, or the middle east conflict, we are referring to the Jews being the target. That is what anti-Semitism refers to, discrimination or persecution of the Jews. The Jewish religion and Islam are two different religions. Israel is mainly a Jewish state and the surrounding Arab countries are Islamic and oppose Israel.
Innocent people do get killed in Gaza simply because the Hamas terrorists hide behind them and use them as shields. Does that mean Israel should just let Hamas kill Israelis and do nothing?
Israel has no way to defend itself apart from going after the terrorists and is doing the best it can. They are only interested in going after Hamas or similar terrorists.
I already explained the reason why Israel has a right to exist but you chose to ignore the whole subject. Like a little kid, you just keep repeating the view that the genocide against the Jews does not exist and it is all Israel's fault. You ignore the fact that the attacks against Israel are all part of a broad agenda to destroy Israel.
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50 minutes ago, taxme said:59 minutes ago, taxme said:
A news reporter by the name of Helen Thomas(deceased)once said that the Jews should get out of the Middle East and go back to Europe where they belong.
Back off. 🙃
She is obviously a classic anti-Semite who doesn't believe Israel has a right to exist.
Back off what? Why would you think Israel does not have the right to exist or defend itself? Oh, I forgot. You don't have any idea of history, or of Israel's right to exist and are still living in the world of anti-Semites in your mind. You have lots of company. Thousands exist in many countries in Europe and have for centuries. That's how Germany arrived at the Holocaust.
Why would you want to identify with the hoards of Islamic supporters in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, London, Stockholm, and other places cheering for Hamas after they brutally slaughtered 1,500 men, women, and children in Israel.
Sadly you don't understand what political Islam's purpose is in the world, particularly the Islamic Jihadists. Its primary purpose is to eliminate Israel and kill every Jew and force everyone to bow to it's religion. That is what the terrorist groups around Israel are attempting to do. That is what the Islamic theocracy in Iran and Afghanistan (Taliban) are doing. That is why Iran supports the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah.
Why allow yourself to be conned and drawn into the group supporting hateful murderers?
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1 hour ago, Nexii said:
To let Gaza be its own country.
In other words let Hamas continue to shoot rockets into Israel, continue to come into Israel and murder innocent families, children and everyone, continue to cut off Israeli babies heads, or anyone they can find in Israel, continue to build up their murderous Jihad terrorist forces in tunnels and throughout Gaza for the purpose killing Israelis. Do you really know what this is all about or know what you are talking about? You think Israel should have to live with murdering Jihadists next door and do nothing about it?
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5 minutes ago, Nexii said:
Yea Israel has created this monster, now they have to deal with it. I fear their going overboard could do them in. In a longer war, the amount of people willing to fight matters as much as logistics. And there's no shortage of Muslim nations around them. Not to mention the 20% Arab population within their own nation. They're rightfully angry, but I don't see Israel having a realistic plan here.
What do you think would be the best plan for Israel?
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15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
I do not believe in religion, one form or the other. Why do you care what I believe or not believe? There is no hope that you would ever convert me LOL
I never said anything about converting your religion. We are talking about support of Hamas.
This is nothing to do with pushing a religion on you. That is a phony claim.
Nice diversion. But you know what this thread is about. My comments were referring to your claimed neutrality. You somehow think Islamic jihad is a benign entity and that you can be neutral or not against it. Not sure where you get your logic.
Your claim that jihad is benign term is phony. The dictionary I looked at on the internet says:
Jihad - a struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam:
By claiming you are neutral, you are not standing up for human rights and western civilization because this is about Jihad against Israel. It is all about completely destroying Israel which is not an Islamic country. Hamas and those other terrorist groups are all about spreading Islam. Somehow you can't seem to see that or you deliberately refuse to take a side.
That is much like trying to be neutral in WW2 while the Nazis are attacking the Allies.
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2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:
I support no one person or group. You are making false accusations.
I have no side except the one that claims you are a fool.
So you pretend to be neutral and won't support the west, wont' support democratic countries. By being neutral you are actually supporting terrorism and the Islamic Jihad. Are you sure you are not an Islamist of some kind? Or do you actually believe they are just a benign religion on the same level as Judeo-Christianity in the west. Do you really think Israel and the Islamic countries which are full of Jihad supporters are in the same category?
No wonder you want me to block you. So you can spout nonsense without any pushback from me.
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6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:
In hindsight, preventing those foreign oil companies from building a feed of Canadian oil to China was good thing.
Why do you not understand our energy industry and Canada's resource industry depends on exporting oil, gas and other natural resources to other countries. That is what provide Canada's prosperity. The fact that the resource industries are multi-national makes no difference because they still pay royalties to the provinces and pay high-paying wages to Canadian workers. That is the way it always has been. Canada does not have the resources to built resource companies by itself and depends highly on foreign investment in the form of multinational corporations. That is what makes Canada.
This is where the NDP and other leftists have no clue about how our country works. We are a western free enterprise country built on Capitalism and foreign investment. That is what gives us our prosperity. Without that we would be a poverty-stricken banana republic.
That is why the B.C. NDP's opposition to expanding the Trans Mountain pipeline was ridiculous and harmful to Canada. It is also another reason why B.C. has the highest gas prices at the pump in north America.
We don't export just to China. We export to many countries, wherever we can sell our natural resources. Trudeau refusing to build pipelines and export to the other half of the world has greatly harmed Canada.
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A war criminal is a war criminal. I would not say some are less worse than others. The crimes against humanity are unspeakable and the volume of it is no consolation of any kind.