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44 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
That would be called progress. We no longer burn witches, and all that.
I think he is wrong. There is no God, and even if there was, it wouldn't put a mindless prat like Mike Johnson in charge of a sheep dip.
And if you think it did, why did it take three tries?
Nobody said he supports burning of witches. What did they call that kind of argument. Pure invention.
You are free to think he is wrong. Millions agree with him.
I am not trying to defend how they choose Speakers. That is their system as slow as it is.
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52 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
This is hilarious!
Stone carvings decorating the temples of Angkor, Cambodia, portray facets of everyday life, including images of animals and people. They are 800 years old...
In 1496 Bishop Bell was buried in the floor of Carlisle Cathedral in the north of England. Engravings in a brass inlay decorated his tomb with depictions of many well-known animals such as a bat,dogs, fish and a bird (see images below). Also engraved on the brass are two unusual animals, with long necks that are interlocked, and long tails. Many have noticed that they resemble sauropod dinosaurs.
Not only were dinosaurs coexisting with humans, but they were doing so as recently as the fifteenth century!
That is not what the above article says. It says the portraits or depictions were found in 1496 and about 800 years ago. It is not saying the depictions mean the animals lived at that time. They could simply be depictions of animals much further back in history. Nobody says the animals lived at the time the depictions were found.
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1 hour ago, bcsapper said:
Does the new Speaker of the House think that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark?
Believing what the Bible says is actually far closer to our historic Judeo-Christian culture than the recent woke/progressivism phenomena with same-sex marriage, abortion on demand, medical assistance in dying, sexual orientation, and gender identity ideology. All those things are an abomination in the true Judeo-Christian culture. We need to put the brakes on this woke stuff. If the new Speaker, Mike Johnson, believes the Bible and rejects the woke agenda, that is something to celebrate. He said God ordained him to be Speaker of the House. I think he is correct.
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1 hour ago, robosmith said:
IF ^this was "simple logic," then the "intelligent creator" could not exist without a "cause."
More "simple logic:" the universe ALWAYS existed and changed in complex random ways.
In an infinite universe, the probability that EVERYTHING will happen approaches 100%.
The fact that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead and was seen by many eye witnesses lends enormous credibility to the truth of the Bible and the account of creation. Read the New Testament and check on the eye witnesses who saw Jesus Christ after his resurrection.
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8 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
.Teenage Brachiosauruses. That's how it was done.
Tell me you don't actually agree with these people?
To be honest, that is just one subject out of countless subjects in the Bible and I have not studied the subject of dinosaurs. But I do read the odd article related to creation.
So, I am not claiming what an article says is absolute truth. I might agree with parts of an article or I might agree with the whole thing, but an article is not the Bible. The Bible is infallible, but we must always remember, our interpretation of what the Bible says might not always be correct. That's why there are many different interpretations on some things. The Bible is not a scientific book but some things such as the flood are meant to be taken literally. I have no problem believing dinosaurs walked on earth when men were here. That's not a big deal.
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35 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
I already know.
I'm not trying to bait you, but I am genuinely curious as to how anyone with an actual brain can think dinosaurs lived at the same time as people.
I'm also curious as to what people think of the possibility that the person who is third in line for the position of POTUS might believe dinosaurs and people were alive at the same time.
Of course they lived at the same time as people. There is evidence to support that.
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This pamphlet presents just a tiny selection of the amazing evidence that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years before humans, but, in fact, they lived at the same time. Examples are found all over the world. All sorts of dinosaurs are depicted in all sorts of mediums: carvings, etchings, drawings, tapestries, stone masonry, pottery, etc. The similarity with reconstructions of fossil dinosaurs is astounding. As you travel and read you will discover more examples. The Bible makes sense of dinosaurs, and makes sense of our life—why we are here and where we are going. unquote
dinosaurs-did-they-die-out.pdf (creation.com)
This appears to be a very interesting article which I have yet to read myself.
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4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
So you think it's possible?
I should make clear here that Noah's Ark didn't exist, and the question that is actually being asked, using the myth of Noah's Ark as a vehicle, is:
Were dinosaurs and people ever alive at the same time?
What do you think?
I don't know. I don't need to speculate on something I don't know. If you want to know, (which I don't think you do) you can read the articles. But I think you are just trying to bait me.
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1 minute ago, robosmith said:
IF ^this was "simple logic," then the "intelligent creator" could not exist without a "cause."
No, that does not fit with the historic, biblical definition of God.
God is omnipotent (all powerful), eternal, that is, God has always existed and always will.
God is not a part of the material universe. God is a spirit that is present everywhere. The universe which He created is not a part of God. It is a material or physical entity. It is governed by all the laws of physics and science which he created. Such a complex universe cannot be explained apart from God.
For you to simply say it always existed is really nonsensical because everything had to have a beginning. We are talking about two things, the supernatural God which is apart from the material universe and the material universe which is governed by intricate laws instituted by God.
This is where your argument falls down. Your claim that the universe always existed does not explain why. Why would there be such a thing if there is no purpose for life? The answer is in the Bible. God!
The atheist idea falls flat because it explains nothing. It fails to tell why we are here. An atheist must assume mankind are just chemicals with no meaning and no purpose. Therefore there would be morals, no right or wrong. Everyone just lives and dies and that's the end of it. This would mean life is just hopeless accident.
It defies logic to claim there was no Creator and claim the universe always existed. Every material thing changes over time. The universe changes. The complexity of the atomic world means energy, and sub atomic particles could not have created themselves.
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2 hours ago, eyeball said:
No, it goes against assurances given to Palestinians by England that there would be no Jewish state that Palestinians would need to vacate.
Read this.
The white paper, formalized as a Palestine Order in Council in August,[33] reaffirmed the British commitment to a national home, promised that Palestine would not become a Jewish State and that Arabs would not be subordinated to Jews.
And then Britain did the exact opposite after being driven out by Zionist terrorists. I figured it's because Britain knew exactly what would happen when they did.
One important thing you overlook and is important to know:
Hamas are a diabolical cult of death. They celebrated the death of more than a thousand Israeli and other national's citizens on Oct 7th. Hamas and their supporters and Jihadist brothers believe in dying as martyrs is the best way to go. This is a fact. They really believe death is the answer.
The Israelis believe in life much like most people in the western world. Judeo-Christian culture is a culture of life. We value human life while the terrorists believe in death.
That is what you are supporting.
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22 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
Does the new Speaker of the House think that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark?
Does anyone on here?
Don't be shy no..
I don't know. If you want to know about dinosaurs there are many articles on creation.com
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3 hours ago, robosmith said:
Yes, every effect has a cause, but you assigning one without SPECIFIC EVIDENCE DOES NOT FOLLOW from that.
That for which you have NO UNDERSTANDING is UNKNOWN. AKA, a MYTH.
Not really. It is simple logic. Logic points to a intelligent Creator because nothing can NOT create something and the universe is immensely complex. Give any logic for any other explanation if you have it. There is none. This is simply logical deduction.
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21 hours ago, eyeball said:
No, it goes against assurances given to Palestinians by England that there would be no Jewish state that Palestinians would need to vacate.
Read this.
The white paper, formalized as a Palestine Order in Council in August,[33] reaffirmed the British commitment to a national home, promised that Palestine would not become a Jewish State and that Arabs would not be subordinated to Jews.
And then Britain did the exact opposite after being driven out by Zionist terrorists. I figured it's because Britain knew exactly what would happen when they did.
There are many articles that go into the history and mandates, etc. of the 20th century. There is another webpage at:
Mandate for Palestine - Wikipedia
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The British government issued the Declaration, a public statement announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, on 2 November 1917. The opening words of the declaration represented the first public expression of support for Zionism by a major political power.[8] The term "national home" had no precedent in international law,[5] and was intentionally vague about whether a Jewish state was contemplated.[5] The intended boundaries of Palestine were not specified,[9] and the British government later confirmed that the words "in Palestine" meant that the Jewish national home was not intended to cover all of Palestine.[10][11][12] unquote
The issues surrounding Israel and Palestine in these documents and events of the 20th century are complex and probably full of contradictions and vagueness. Therefore you cannot go by one simple historical declaration or document during the first half of the 20th century.
The fact is Israel declare the State of Israel in May 1948 and was recognized by the League of Nations and later by the U.N. Of course not all countries recognized that because Islamic countries will not recognize Israel's right to exist.
You seem to be saying that Israel has no right to exist and no right to defend itself, which is completely irrational and against history. So you lose completely on that basis.
Israel's history in the region goes back several thousand years as well. According to Biblical revelation they are the owners of the land of Israel as it was given to them by our Creator/God. Read about it in Genesis Ch12 and possibly Ch17.
You also still don't seem to agree that Palestinians (Muslims) will never accept Israel's right to exist. So what do you do in that case? There is nothing to negotiate because if your enemy won't agree to your right to exist, what is there to talk about?
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16 hours ago, eyeball said:
The legitimate aspirations of Palestinians still endure and instead of dealing with the root causes of the conflict Israel is again just mowing the lawn while planting the seeds for the next retaliation.
You again demonstrate your ignorance of reality.
1. Sure there is history, but history is on Israel's side. You refused to read some history, so it is pointless to try repeatedly to point it out to you. You prefer ignorance over facts.
2. Israel was declared a State in May 1948 and recognized as such by most countries in the world. The countries that especially refuse to recognize Israel just happen to be Islamic. That is the way it has been all through history since Islam began in the 7th century. This is why you need to learn history and get your facts straight although you seem unable to think logically. So I am not sure history would even help you see things rationally.
3. You talk about root causes, but ignore the fact that the root cause is Islam. Muslims will never accept Israel's right to exist and live in peace because that goes against their religion. In such a case there really is no solution other than first eliminating the major threats that exist around Israel so that they can live in relative peace and security.
4. Just declaring a piece of land as belonging to the Palestinians will not solve the problem because of the Islamic Jihad problem which I mentioned above. When you have radical Islamic theocracies such as Iran fueling the hatred and terrorism, that also means a genuine situation of peace and security is not within easy reach.
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3 hours ago, robosmith said:Cause there's nothing like a man having complete faith in a book of ancient myths to demonstrate he is a cretin who believes we've learned nothing in the 2000 years since it was written.
It's not a myth. The Bible gives lots of evidence it came from God. Those who don't believe it are condemning themselves for eternity unless they repent. The knowledge in it is for all time. The commandments for example are still valid: thou shalt not kill, not shalt not covet thy neighbours possessions, thou shalt not commit adultery, love thy neighbour as thyself, etc. etc.
The Biblical teaching that man is a fallen, corrupt being and needs to be redeemed it quite obvious. Man has been brutal to each other with crime, theft, murders, wars, etc. Nobody in their right mind could deny these things.
There is an almighty Creator who created everything. That should be obvious by just looking around at the complex creation. Even biological scientists have discovered the complexity of a single cell is demonstrated by the vast chains of data in it to control its function.
The very existence of the universe proves the existence of God because the universe is an effect. Every effect has a cause. Simple logic of cause and effect. The universe had to have a Creator-designer. Nothing does not create something. There had to have been a beginning in time when the universe came into being and it could not have just happened out of the blue. One only needs to consider such things as the atoms, molecules, energy and laws of physics. All of that could not just happen. It was created with incredibly intricate laws that govern how it all works. This could only have been done by an immensely powerful Designer we call God.
So it is reasonable to believe that God did inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures, that is, the Bible. The Bible reveals God's plan and will for man. Only fools reject that and are so puffed up with pride and full of themselves that they think they know better than God. Sad, but true.
It takes a little humility and acknowledgement that we are mere mortals that will be alive for a very brief moment in time and we are as specks of dust in the universe. The Bible makes it clear we will be held accountable to God for our beliefs in this life. We are not just blobs of chemicals that came into existence accidentally. There is a purpose for everything even if we don't understand it all.
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This is refreshing to have someone who is a Bible believer chosen to be the Speaker in the U.S. House of Representatives.
We now have someone with some Biblical/Christian principles in a position of authority and who is not afraid to speak about these subjects.
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Newly elected Speaker Mike Johnson isn’t a tough man to figure out. Nor is he scary, except to those who don’t have the best interest of the United States at heart. Johnson lives by the teachings of the Bible, pure and simple.
He also wants the best for this nation. This makes him an enemy of the Democratic Party and the establishment media, who ultimately want the opposite and have been working hard to meet that goal.
Johnson’s sudden promotion is a sign of failure to the left. It signifies their inability to oust God from society and shows them to be the liars that they are. The threat he poses is matched by the vicious words the Democratic National Committee used to welcome Johnson onto the scene, calling him an anti-abortion, MAGA extremist at the start. unquote
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35 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
There was nothing antisemitic in his post as far as I can see
That's because you are blind to his antisemitic slant in the whole post.
35 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:He stated the fact that there are 1500 Israelis killed and 7000 Palestinians so who is worse?.
Self defense is not a trading game. Hamas attacked Israel first with a barbaric cruel attack. Hamas hides behind the people and uses them as a shield. Israel is not going to back down and let Hamas prepare for another mass attack on Israelis. They are going after Hamas wherever they are. We also don't know how many of those people who were killed were Hamas and we don't know if the figures coming out are factual or propaganda. But this is not a one for one trading game. It is a war against terrorists.
35 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:He also said there is no evidence that Hamas beheaded babies as Israeli soldiers claimed which is another fact.
I never said anything about that. That point is irrelevant. Whichever way they killed people makes no difference. Hamas is still barbaric terrorists who committed unspeakable acts of cruelty. There was nothing kind about how those 1,500 people died and how 212 were taken hostage. It was cruel and barbaric whether any babies heads were cut off or not.
25 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:Israel has the right to defend itself (They have millions of women and children to protect too), but I agree not at the cost of tens of thousands of innocent defenseless women and children.
Funny how you take a softer tone when you are replying to taxme and try to sound more agreeable than when you speak to me.
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12 minutes ago, taxme said:
1. You are the one that has said that Hamas beheaded babies. So, where is your proof? Your proof is that you heard of it does not mean that it happened. To do such a thing would be bad PR for Hamas, don't you think? I would think so.
2. The innocent Palestinian people are the real victims now. 1500 Jews compared to 7000 Palestinians is quite a difference in numbers.
3. Israel has been picking a fight with the Palestinians ever since they stole their land. That is something that you would totally agree with. Israel is the one that has been making choices. And they have not been good for the Palestinian people. It's been great for the Jews though. And, take away the backing of America, and let us see as to how long Israel will prevail being surrounded by 400 million Arabs. Oh-oh. 😇
A proven antisemite speaks. Totally ignorant of history and refuses to read any history or any facts. Israel is an internationally recognized nation. Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorists whose only reason for being is to kill Israelis. Why would any country in their right mind be willing to just sit back and let a terrorist organization rebuild and prepare more genocidal attacks against it's people?
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Why would the Bank of Canada expect to see a decline in house prices just because they raised the interest rates to an unprecedented level? Canada is short millions of homes. There is no way the prices are going to drop just because the BOC hopes they drop. The shortage and demand is too great.
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Not only did Canada turn away 900 Jewish refugees on the motor vessel St Louis in 1939, but the head of the Immigration Department for Canada was an anti Semite who refused to allow Jewish refugees to enter Canada in that period. After the war it was easier for former Nazis to immigrate to Canada than for Jews.
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11 hours ago, OftenWrong said:
Add to that the creation of Israel by essentially Britain after WWII, has been an intense sore spot to the region.
You probably realize Israel existed long before the 20th century. Israel has been a sore spot for the various non-Jewish Semites and countries in the area for several thousand years. Many of them believe their ancestry goes back to Abraham. Abraham's descendants, Isaac and Jacob, became the forefathers of the twelve tribes of Israel several thousand years ago.
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1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
First you accused me of supporting Hamas and its killing spree and I challenged you TWICE to provide evidence of that and you did not because there was none
OK, if I accused you falsely of supporting Hamas, I apologize.
1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:Then you stated or accused me of being an Arab or Palestinian, or sympatizer again false. Then you accused me of wanting the destruction of Israel or want Israel to not exist, again false.
Ok, If you are not an Arab, I apologize. I am not exactly sure in which post I said that, but if I did, I apologize.
I did ask you where you came from but you never answered. I assume from your endless comments about Iran that you came from Iran.
Since you have been such a strong supporter of Palestinians and seem to be blaming Israel for all the problems, it does look like you oppose Israel's existence. You called them Nazis, and condemned Zionism, which is only the movement defending Israel's right to have their own state.
What evidence do you have that Israel is the criminal in all this or that they are Nazis?
Do you believe Israel has a right to defend themselves against terrorist attacks?
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6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
Please don't preach me the history of Iran. The 1953 coup prepared the ground for extremists to penetrate Iranian society and tricked people into establishing democracy which Iran had before the 1953 coup. It galvanized opposition to the monarchy and gathered masses behind the evil forces and hence revolution. It was not even a revolution. It was the peanut brain President sending General Huyser to neutralize the Imperial army in favor of the Ayatolah.
Canada can't change Iran. The people in Iran allowed a revolution in 1979 and got an extremist Islamic republic. That's not the fault of the west or anybody else. That's what happens when people worship false gods. The west doesn't have the power to change Iran.
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2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
Just read the guy's posts for God's sake.
I am not reading his posts. You are commenting to me. Comment to him, but why try to accuse other people of agreeing with his posts. This is why I said you need help. You don't know how to talk to other people.
Should Hamas support rallies in Canada be stopped?
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And what it accomplish. You have radical Islamists and terrorist in the mix. You must live in a world of fiction.
As for your last line, why bother being on a forum if you are incapable of being civil?