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  1. Here is the lead scientist on the Harrit et al paper, Neils Harrit, describing the nanothermite they found in WTC dust samples.
  2. Mark Basile is the scientist, Rue, you are not one nor are you remotely close to one. In these videos, which you are obviously too frightened to view, you can see and hear described how they are thermitic reactions, described by scientists, which you are not. The paint chips do not ignite. The unreacted particles of nanothermite do. Leaving the by products of thermitic reactions and the chemical signature of said reactions.
  3. There's been nothing, Rue. And still, nothing. If there was, you wouldn't have wasted all your breath whining, ..., no, I take that back, you love to whine and it is all you do. Note, still no science. You haven't even had time to go over the Harrit et al, the Steven Jones, and the paper that refutes Millette in Post 279, but here you are whining, whining whining about a bunch of nothing!
  4. Still no science from Rue. Rue won't even address the science put forward. You are one in a long line of folks who have never provided one speck of evidence in a thread designed expressly for that purpose.
  5. Still, not a lick of science from Rue. But you are doing a grand "Oh look, a squirrel!" routine.
  6. So dishonest, Rue. I didn't find anything. Harrit et al did. I posted it. I posted Dr Steven Jones describing how their results are established science, science that has not been refuted by any peer reviewed scientist. Here it is again, so you can't try to slip away. There certainly are lots of lawyers who are incredible liars, aren't there, Rue? You all have gone from deny nanothermite ever existed to this latest dog and pony show. Here is Dr Steven Jones explaining why you don't know what you are talking about, Rue. "Debunkers may raise all sorts of objections on forums, such as "Oh, it's just paint" or "the aluminum is bound up in kaolin." We have answered those questions in the paper, and shown them to be nonsense, but you have to read to find the answers." That's you, Rue, and you are a total non debunker. Just read your screed. There is no science offered, never any science offered, just Rue the lawyer shouting, "look a squirrel, oh there's another one over there, hey three more there, ... !"
  7. The title of this thread is Providing proof/evidence that supports the US 911 Conspiracy Theory. You don't want to listen to the miniscule number of scientists who subscribe to the CD theory, but you and everyone else are totally incapable of bringing forward any evidence from what you seem to think are the astronomical number of scientists who support the USGOCT. Silence does not equate to support. To make such an illogical leap, or to hold that as a core belief, isn't of science.
  8. Again, no personal slight intended. You are not even of a scientific bent, even remotely so, because everything you have discussed, mentioned is the very antithesis of science. You have avoided science, opting for the equivalent of the bible. You obviously aren't even a very logical person for given the total impossibilities described by the science, you still vainly stick to the wacky US government conspiracy theory. Any thinking person can look at the evidence and know that the US fable is just that. Shows the incredible power of propaganda, something I kinda thought you were not so influenced by.
  9. You obviously don't know about residential schools where children were forcibly removed from their homes. What would you have thought of the Canadian government doing that to your family, your children, telling them that you were worthless parents, that your culture was worthless, beating your kids, sexually abusing them, telling them they couldn't speak their languages, ... .
  10. Brilliant description of the brain dead folks, Boges!
  11. HE: Seismic wave measurements show that ONLY powerful basal explosions could have created the waves recorded at LDEO, 34 km away from WTC.

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    CONCLUSION

    "Near the times of the planes' impacts into the Twin Towers and during their collapses, as well as during the collapse of WTC7, seismic waves were generated. To the degree that (1) seismic waves are created only by brief impulses and (2) low frequencies are associated with energy of a magnitude that is comparable to a seismic event, the waves recorded at Palisades and analyzed by LDEO undeniably have an explosive origin.

    Even if the planes' impacts and the fall of the debris from the Towers onto the ground could have generated seismic waves, their magnitude would have been insufficient to be recorded 34 km away and should have been very similar in the two cases to one another. As we have shown, they were not."

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    2. Omni

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      "powerful subterranean bombs", that's a good one. And now apparently there were millions killed on 9-11. Good gawd! We're witnessing delusional.

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      hot enough

      Some authors have been puzzled in their analysis of signals recorded for the events at the World Trade Center, as the contradictions are significant. They are particularly intrigued by the presence of seismic "peaks" before the collapses. (See MacQueen, 2009). This text focuses on the study of the seismic signals from Palisades. The new interpretation presented here renders the assertions of the seismic analysis of the events at the WTC, as presented by the government in the NIST and other reports, null and void. On the contrary, all the documented evidence points to explosions as the source of the recorded seismic signals.

      1 Dr. Rousseau is a former researcher in geophysics and geology at the National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS) of France and a specialist in acoustic waves. He is also a member of Scientists for 9/11 Truth.

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  12. This is so typical of science denying/anti-truthers. They seem to have no concept of anything except deception and misdirection. The US/UK/... own most of these crimes because they are the countries that have illegally invaded sovereign nations, committing the ultimate, the supreme war crime. All crimes subsequent to those illegal invasions are contained within the initial supreme war crime and become the responsibility of the illegal invaders.
  13. It has been in the past, the business of right wing racists who have chosen those admitted to western nations. Thankfully, these racists no longer control such policies and they are normally confined to the dark corners of society.
  14. Humans have to address "stupid discussions", capricorn. How else can these vile hate crimes be stopped?
  15. That sounds a lot like our own gang of right wingers who link themselves to "hateful ideologies, including anti-immigrant" comments. They hold off on the anti-feminism comments because their right wing meme feeders can't walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.
  16. This can't be blamed solely on conservatives as you, seemingly of a liberal bent, are doing as much or more than conservatives to deny reality, science, logic, ... .
  17. Why do you keep engaging in this patent dishonesty, even after it has been pointed out to you? It is not "my conspiracy". What kind of delusion is it that can't recognize that the US government story is the wacky conspiracy theory. It has not a lick of evidence to support it, only myriad gigantic lies support it, volumes of hard, irrefutable science knocks it apart and still you and the others go on in your delusions. It is YOUR [the wide plural 'your'] conspiracy that prevents the needed discussions from taking place, Those who believe in truth, science and wide open free discussions are not preventing anything. They are asking for a real investigation, real discussion, real openness. How can you continue to ignore so much science and advance such deep illogic? How can you continue to ignore that there has been ZERO evidence adduced in support of the USGOCT?
  18. Again, you don't know of what you speak.Silence does not in any way mean acquiescence. You're not "the least bit enamoured by the governments official 'they hate our freedoms/ideology of evil" shtick" so what on earth are you enamoured by? Because there is nothing else. Have you not noticed that no one can provide any evidence for the USGOCT? Have you not noticed that there is proof/evidence that makes the USGOCT complete nonsense? 1) Proof of a super thermite that is ONLY US government controlled. 2) Proof of its existence at WTC. 3) Proof of its use - nothing else legitimate/no other fuel could have created the molten/vaporized metals with melting points high above the possible jet fuel/office furnishings temperatures. 4) Three buildings collapsing from fires on the same day when it has never happened before or since. 5) No changes in any steel framed high rise fire codes. No one actually believes the three collapses were possible. 6) No changes in fire insurance costs - no underwriters in the fire insurance business believe the three were possible, and they too are too frightened to expose the fraud, though they would love to add on higher insurance rates. 7) Seismic data shows that the only thing possible for the seismic signals that reached Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University (LDEO) were caused by powerful explosions - "Given that neither the crashes into the towers, nor their vibration, nor the fall of debris can be the source of the seismic waves registered 34 kilometres away, as well as the fact that the low frequencies of those waves could not have been generated by such phenomena, we must search for the actual causes of the waveforms observed. Only explosions could produce the waves observed but various possible explosive configurations must be considered. We must distinguish between 1) subterranean explosions, 2) aerial explosions and 3) subaerial explosions (close to the ground without touching it)." which coincide perfectly in time with the reported subterranean/basal explosions of William Rodriguez and fireman, Richard Banaciski, "who was in the street facing WTC2". Remember that NIST totally denied that there were any bombs or sounds of explosions despite those being described by 118 firemen, those explosions being recorded on news media reports, media reporters telling of explosions, ... . NIST also totally denied any molten/vaporized steel when there are myriad reports from ground zero workers, structural engineers, CD experts, FEMA, ... . I haven't forgotten at all that you have said that, nor can I forget that "what I've said before", combined with the voluminous evidence presented to you here [which is only a small portion] can still find you, again, forgive me for I mean no offense, in such a delusional position. What "just never adds up" is the US Government Official Conspiracy Theory, yet people are scared to death to even mention it, let alone discuss it, scientists too. How can that be, in our free, open and honest western society? Remember, we aren't supposed to be closed, totalitarian societies. The Islamaphobes scream for the right to discuss openly and honestly all things but they seek to shut down any discussion of 911 and its resulting war crimes/western terrorism/millions of deaths/... .
  19. That is how science works, eyeball. How has this escaped you? Why do you science deniers totally ignore things/facts/situations that make the US conspiracy theory a totally impossible event, setting aside totally, the fact that the story itself is impossible. Why can't you anti-truthers look at how this thread has proceeded - much evidence from me that shows the US conspiracy theory is not possible and NONE, NO EVIDENCE from any of the supporters of the US conspiracy theory?
  20. "He who does not bellow out the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy So true, Charles.
  21. A "lawyer" brushes aside all the tangible, hard physical evidence in favor of bodiless, immaterial, incorporeal, insubstantial, unsubstantial, ethereal, unreal evidence. Right after he has been shown that "his evidence" was all pure fiction, hearsay, lies, ... . Need any more proof of the deep delusion?
  22. What you say is correct. The evidence has been provided but it's clear that not a one of you, with the possible exception of Gost Hacked and Reg, are even capable of addressing that evidence. It seems that it has even become too much for Reg. You are in a state of deep self delusion. All the science says the US official story is impossible. But not a one of you wants to discuss the absolute impossibilities inherent in the US official conspiracy theory You provide no proof/evidence to support the US government conspiracy theory. There were no phone calls. The box cutters nonsense came from Ted Olson's wife, Barbara, who he said he talked to but the FBI says the calls connected for zero seconds. The following too, [in RED], says the US government official conspiracy theory, the one that actually requires extraordinary evidence, which does NOT, in fact, exist. This too, none of you are willing to address. 1. Near the times of the planes' impacts into the Twin Towers and during their collapses, as well as during the collapse of WTC7, seismic waves were generated. 2.To the degree that (1) seismic waves are created only by brief impulses and (2) low frequencies are associated with energy of a magnitude that is comparable to a seismic event, the waves recorded at Palisades and analyzed by LDEO undeniably have an explosive origin. 3. Even if the planes' impacts and the fall of the debris from the Towers onto the ground could have generated seismic waves, their magnitude would have been insufficient to be recorded 34 km away and should have been very similar in the two cases to one another. As we have shown, they were not. http://www.journalof911studies.com/were-explosives-the-source-of-the-seismic-signals-emitted-from-new-york-on-september-11-2001/ No, that is not at all what I am saying. There were no Arab hijackers. Still not a lick of evidence to show there was and volumes of evidence to show there weren't. How you folks can maintain, what is essentially a dog and pony show, illustrates such incredible delusion it is like it is out of the twilight zone. Given the fact that before September 11, 2001 no high-rise steel-frame building has ever collapsed from fire alone (Taylor, 2011), extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The NIST Reports did not address the total collapse of the Twin Towers, truncating their study at “collapse initiation.” Overall, our peer-reviewed literature results collectively yield a very strong prima facie argument for CD. [CD = Controlled Demolition] http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2013EastmanColeVol37Apr.pdf You seek to put the onus upon the truth seekers to provide this extraordinary proof but you and the folks who support the US conspiracy theory are not even willing to look at the proof/evidence that has been compiled. It is overwhelming both in volume and in in supporting the Controlled Demolition scenario. But you all are willing to accept, unquestioningly, that the official story is based on a "scientific" paper that was scratched out on on the back of an envelope and "published" on September 13, 2001, two days after 911. You are ALL willing to accept, also unquestioningly, the fact that NIST has, after years of study, nothing to describe/show/prove the collapse of the twin towers, except "A MIRACLE HAPPENED"! A deep, detailed, two year forensic study of the NIST WTC7 report says that that report has a ZERO CHANCE OF BEING ACCURATE! Why are you all still so enamored by such incredibly horrible science?
  23. b_c must have felt left out. Omni has never provided any evidence, nor has Michael, Rue, Wilber, OftenWrong, b_c2004, ... .
  24. Evidently, it is, exceedingly hard, for supporters of the US government official conspiracy theory.
  25. Still no science, no evidence, no nothing from OftenWrong.
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