hot enough

Not at all. Yours is, by your own admission, the anecdotal part. And you are trying to downplay the racist, Islamaphobic rants of the prez of the US. Those were people who heard that same Prez of the USA say those words. Out of respect for people of the same group that Trump maligns, I wouldn't think of putting young children into that hotbed of hatred.

Again, raw numbers can't and won't show that. That was my only point.

Your conclusions are not necessarily accurate ones. Raw numbers do not tell the story.

And you avoided the issue, as is your wont. So many of you continue to blame people who are blameless, completely avoiding the issue - who were/are the biggest liars surrounding the events of 911, after 911 and before 911. Why did this man do what he is suspected of doing?

Yes, you most assuredly are a conspiracist, as are all the folks discussing various conspiracies with you. When you discuss the US official story you are also a conspiracy theorist, because that is not only a theory, it is a completely unproven theory, it has been shown to be a Golconda of lies.

Says the chief defender of the "Islamaphobic, white is right, French are out, along with Muslims and other undesirables" crowd. You can look up "hypocrite" here, http://onelook.com/

You are not being truthful when you advance your frequent misunderstandings of the written word. That was illustrated in spades in the 911 thread.

No one appointed me. I wish you had the ability to actually discern what a person writes. You and Rue sure do love to read things into writing that is not there.

Here we go again. Read what I wrote, Betsy, not what you want to see.

Telling the truth about the war crimes and terrorism of the US in many places would see a body right dead right fast. Some folks just hold on to their "religion" harder than others. Are you not aware of the tens of millions who were slaughtered just because they held a belief that the citizens of a country should rule their country, not the USA?

And Orthodox Jews, Hutterites, Mennonites, Mormons, ... can wear what they want. The Christian boy can even wear what he likes, just not with false propaganda on it.

The sky has a crack in it, Betsy, but it isn't about to fall.

That they are, without any justification at all. A terrible abuse/distortion of language. Israel does the same thing to Palestinians. With the support of the USA.

Why should it be receiving any criticism when all this is based on huge lies and the subsequent illegal invasions and murders of millions of innocents? Why wouldn't the criticism be aimed at the liars, the war criminals, the real [as in huge number of] terrorists?

Has it been worse than the genocide the Christians perpetrated in this country for over a century?

That was because the US still had hopes that all the money they had spent on their vicious right wing dictator could be somehow saved.

How old are you, Rue?

You say it's not canned then you can it once more. As has been pointed out, terrorist responses are responses to terrorism/war crimes/crimes against humanity/the theft of trillions in wealth/the rapes/the torture chambers, all of which has been going on for a good long time, long before the people of the Middle East ever thought of retaliating. And again, the retaliation for these century plus long evils has been so scattered, so infrequent considering the potential that it could very likely be another Operation Gladio. Remember, science says, clearly, that the seminal event for all this is a fraud.

That underlined word made all the difference in your eloquent argument.

But as always from Argus, nothing in the manner of demonstration.

Article 2 In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; [Check, done by Canada and the USA] (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; [Check, done by Canada and the USA] (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; [Check, done by Canada and the USA] (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [Check, done by Canada and the USA] (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [Check, done by Canada and the USA] Is there any better example of the political indoctrination that has gone on in western schools, UK, USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, [the latter two can be added to the [Check, done by Canada and the USA]] ... than these genocides being hidden at all education levels right up to the highest university levels? How much better than the Nazis are we?

Thank you for your indirect admission that the US and Canada had a program of genocide against Native Americans and First Nations peoples. Please, you are making a [unspeakable word] of yourself, taxme. Let's use total numbers killed by western terrorism versus "radical Islam" terrorism. It is not even anywhere close to being equal. The total numbers killed from illegal invasions, aka war crimes and the time frame that western terrorism has been going on versus "radical Islam" is also highly disproportionate. If we were really to check, deeply, we would likely find out that many or most of these "radical Islam" attacks were false flags, just like Operation Gladio. US lies have a long and storied history. You never showed up in the threads that showed, scientifically, that the US official 911story was and is a fable. Why are all you open, honest, nothing is off the table Platos so afraid of actually discussing the real issues?

Another canned Rue response.

If that were true, [your typical false accusations, with your typical spurious reasoning], it would find us guilty of defending a level terrorism that is vastly eclipsed by the volume of terrorism that has seen the US/UK/... engage in murderous terrorism on a scale that makes Nazi Germany pale into nothingness. Remember the USA has been doing this deeply evil terrorism for well over a century, the UK goes back how many centuries?

A Soviet era journalist who lived in the USA for a number of years described it perfectly - the only difference between Soviet propaganda and US propaganda is that Americans believe theirs.