Goddess
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6 minutes ago, eyeball said:
nd there's never a smoking gun pointing at the alleged liars.
Erm, where you been? The FDA and CDC just got slammed in a lawsuit for lying about Ivermectin and were forced to take down all their "smoking gun" tweets and sections on their websites.
This is how stoopid you are.
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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:
I'm quite capable of comprehending them. The explanations for lies never add up and there's never a smoking gun pointing at the alleged liars. Just more hooey and more hooey that explains why the hooey never sticks.
I rest my case.
Why do YOU think the CDC, FDA, governments, public health agencies outright lied about Ivermectin and suppressed its use? Just for sh!ts & giggles? You think they really DIDN'T know what it was?
You reject the explanations given - so why do YOU think they all lied about it?
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Here's the problem, @eyeball (and also with MH)
You claim 2 things:
1. You claim you are FOR accountability in government and governmental departments.
2. You claim it is virtuous to blindly obey and believe anything the government or its departments tell you.
You do not see the contradiction in those 2 claims.
Which tells me neither of you are capable of "keeping a better eye on" anything. Frankly I'm surprised you're able to keep an eye on when to change your underwear.
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8 minutes ago, eyeball said:
I certainly read a few reviews.
That doesn't help if you are unable to comprehend them or understand the implications of the lie, even after it's been explained to you MULTIPLE times.
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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:
The beauty about centralizing management information should be that we know where it is so can keep a better eye on it
Keep a better eye on it?
You were too lazy to google Ivermectin.
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On 5/19/2024 at 9:28 AM, Nationalist said:
Sorry to butt in here gents but I learned some things.
1. Man should not be fcking with gain of fuction research.
2. Anthony Fauci fcked up and lied to cover his ass.
3. Masks are at least as harmful/dangerous to the person as being unmasked.
4. If one is not sick during a pandemic, outside is where you want to be.
5. Forcing the population to agree to untested vaccines, produces much less than optimal results.
6. Panic only makes a bad situation...much worse.
Here's the things I learned:
- At least 75% of the population has very strong authoritarian tendencies.
- Too large a % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.
- When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, they will demand it.
- Humans can be trained and conditioned relatively quickly and easily to significantly alter their behaviours, for better or for worse.
- 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.
- Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.
- It is difficult to get people "back to normal".
- Fear of social disapproval is stronger than fear of death.
- Propaganda is just as effective in the modern age as it was 100 years ago.
- Anything and everything can be politicized by the media, the government and those who blindly follow them.
- Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their financial aspirations.
- Most people believe the government always acts in citizen's best interests.
- Once they've made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.
- People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.
- Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.
- Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.
- If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.
- Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.
- Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good). As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', can have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad).
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5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
It actually was pretty hard to find, and finding anything that didn't amount to a smear campaign against any threats to vax-supremacy was even harder.
I'll give you that, to a point.
I mean, I read the CBC articles and stuff, but I'm the type of person who already knew the MSM was biased, so I looked up names, credentials, etc.
I would have never gotten out of the religious cult I was in if I hadn't been brave enough to read source materials that the cult didn't want us to read. So as soon as MSM was like, "Don't read this, dont' listen to that person or this person, only read and believe what we tell you, there's only one truth, you'll die if you don't listen only to us...." Red flags were flying for me. It was all very reminiscent of being in a CULT.
The Ivermectin thing and the denial of natural immunity was just....eye-popping..... to me. I KNEW both were outright lies.
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25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
And this guy, who gave ivermectin to 3 death-row covid patients: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ivermectin-covid-alberta-nagase-1.6205075
Yes, I followed Daniel Nagasse for quite a while at the beginning, because of the Ivermectin thing. He saved those 3 patients and was fired for doing it.
Dr. Charles Hoffe from Lytton, BC was another. I think he was the first in the world to do d-dimer tests on his patients and found the elevated troponin levels that indicate heart trauma.
The truth was out there and it wasn't hard to find.
It's too bad most of our population is stupid and lazy and think blindly following bureaucrats is a virtue. Eyeball and MH, ExFlyer and MoonFace, Aristedes - they'll all do it again, too.
We cannot rely on any of the above people or people like them to be alert to any kind of over-reach.
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There was another expert who got repeatedly shut down - a Canadian MD, Dr. Lucy McBride.
Her credentials include Harvard Medical School, Princeton, Cambridge and Johns Hopkins.
She had enough of the rules that veered into outright cruelty when, in November 2021, a 4 year old boy from Ontario who started exhibiting cold symptoms at school was locked inside an outdoor shed and developed hypothermia. His mother said, "He couldn't talk, was shivering like mad, hands red raw. They even made him eat his lunch out there, no toys, no games, nothing."
She launched a group "The Urgency of Normal" to help school administrators, teachers and parents make informed choices on Covid. They knew the kids were not alright.
She advocated managing both fear and risk.
But how many of you heard about her?
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I mostly pity people like @eyeball. Being terrified to the point that ethics and morality no longer matters, that can't feel good, as a human being.
Before covid, we understood that "zero risk" does not exist in life. We didn't counsel immunocompromised people to avoid all contact with others. Instead we encouraged them to find a balance that worked for them.
Science informs, but values decide.
The "peeing my pants in terror" crowd - they still think it was was the virus that did all this damage. It was wasn't. It was governmental policy. Bad governmental policy.
And it was a huge failure on the part of public health authorities who fell into a disconnect between expert advice and the needs of real flesh-and-blood humans.
We have NEVER embraced any philosophy of medicine that means avoiding death to the point of giving up living.
But ones like eyeball - they go even further - they not only gave up on living, but they insisted everyone else do so, too.
They revel in being ordered about and told what to do down to the most microscopic level - Remember "You can now hold your elderly loved one's hand but you cannot hug them."
I hope next time - because there WILL be a next time - there are more people who will stand up to these bureaucrats and say "Show me the data that masks (or lockdowns, or experimental injections, or school closures for 2 years) work....or STFU."
We weren't put on earth to stay safe. We are here to roam free.
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7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
It's only with the benefit of a great deal of hindsight that a lot of people are coming to the conclusion that Fauci was a lying, sellout weasel who never should have been trusted.
Which is too bad, really, because his killing of thousands of AIDS victims by experimenting with medications with poor trial records and withholding of medications that DID work, and his experimentations on African children are well documented. So are his experiments with animals - cutting the vocal cords out of beagles so scientists wouldn't have to listen to them scream, while sand fleas ate the flesh off their heads.
There's whole books written on this modern-day Dr. Mengele.
We knew what he is.
I hope RFK Jr. gets elected in the US, if for nothing other than he and his Kennedy uncles have been exposing Fauci for 20 years. But the man knows his way around a bureaucracy and knows who to pay to shut up.
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24 minutes ago, Venandi said:
just happened to be doing GOF research on the very same virus in question.
If you're interested, in the Trickle thread, I posted the actual request for funding from the NIH by Daszak. It outlines exactly what he wanted to do - engineer a more infectious coronavirus by monkeying around with a specific furin cleavage site. The same funky cleavage site that makes the covid virus adhere so seamlessly with human cells.
Except Daszak proposed releasing the infected bats BACK INTO THE WILD.
These people are insane.
28 minutes ago, Venandi said:If so, I think it's as wrong headed a position as the collaborative action that was deliberately taken (by several key players) to suppress any and all discussion of the possibility in the first place.
People don't usually invent elaborate lies and cover-ups for no reason.....
30 minutes ago, Venandi said:Random people (dare I say like myself) who payed a bit of attention and managed to connect some of the dots were vilified, ridiculed and suspended from social media for suggesting exactly what the FBI now concludes to be the likely origin.
If you want to be scared sh!tle$$, google how many lab accidents with infectious viruses there are every year.....
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Just 4 days after The Declaration went out, Francis Collins (then director of NIH) sent a panicked email to Fauci and other high-ranking bureaucrats, calling it the work of "three fringe epidemiologists" and they all agreed to a "quick and devastating takedown of its premises". Fauci described it as "nonsense" and dangerous."
Outrage flared up in the media: Murderers!! Covid deniers!! Granny killers!!
Dr. Battacharya received death threats and racist attacks. He said, "I started getting calls from reporters demanding to know why I wanted to 'let the virus rip' when I had proposed nothing of the sort."
Dr. Gupta said "I was utterly unprepared for the onslaught of threats, insults, personal criticism and intimidation that met our proposal".
Dr. Kuldorff was forced out of Harvard after 18 years of professorship.
@eyeball At what point are you going to admit that you were the victim of misinformation and stop spreading it?
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Here is an excerpt from the Great Barrington Declaration, the one eyeball and other on here mocked and is what we are currently doing NOW, finally:
Notice that it mentions natural and herd immunity, which eyeball's "experts" are still denying, as far as I know.
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On 5/20/2024 at 9:51 AM, eyeball said:
Am I to believe if we'd known without any doubt it was a manufactured virus there would have been no need for any sort of response and that the best course of action would be to let it rip?
As has been explained to you multiple times on multiple occasions - there was an option presented early on (October 2020) that recommended "focused protection" for those most vulnerable, while those with nearly zero risk would be able to continue on with life. No need for crashing the economy or CERB payments to teenagers to sit at home, no need to shut down schools or bankrupt businesses.
It was, I'm sure you remember because I posted about it multiple times and you mocked it in favour of anti-scientific draconian measures, The Great Barrington Declaration.
It was signed by thousands of scientists and doctors worldwide and was created by:
- Dr. Jay Battachrya - a public health expert and health economist with a focus on infectious diseases in vulnerable populations, from Stanford University.
- Dr. Sunetra Gupta - the world's top professor of epidemiology, who specializes in vaccine development, immunology and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases, from Oxford University.
- Dr. Martin Kuldorff - professor of biostatistics and epidemiology from Harvard University.
Great Barrington Declaration (gbdeclaration.org)
But you chose to listen to the CBC "experts". 🙄
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10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:
The only thing I am interested in this, is the potential lessons learned.
Are you, though? Are you interested in any potential lessons? It doesn't seem so when the rest of your last two posts here imply that the greatest virtue the public had was to follow government and Big Pharma blindly and that it is somehow virtuous to ask no questions because "it was an emergency."
To some of us, more than you know, and many scientists, more than you know, that is not understandable at all.
What a naive and childish view that governments never terrorize their citizens for profit and that Big Pharma who has repeatedly paid fines in the billions of dollars for fraud that involved people dying, are to be unquestiongly followed.
We knew by March 2020 that only certain people were vulnerable. Yet not did you did question that during mandates, you cheered it on and demanded pregnant women, children and babies were forced to get multiple doses of an experimental injection they did not need. Do you have any idea the centuries of medical ethics that were thrown out the window? We have NEVER allowed experimentation on pregnant women or denied people informed consent. These issues were part of the reasonfor Nuremburg, for gawd's sake. We learned that "potential lesson" 80 years ago and you threw it out the window along with already established science, like natural immunity and basic biology.
The truth about Ivermectin was less than a 5 minute Google search away. What prevented the general public from even just doing that one thing?
IMO, Intellectual laziness.
So don't pretend you're some kind of intellectual and moral person. Blind obedience to authorities that have proven track records of fraud and lies, is not a virtue.
You, like many, have zero critical thinking ability and *THAT* is scary to the rest of us. Because if this was a huge marketing ploy to see how stupid the public is and how far they'll go in giving up everything they believe in by applying a bit of fear that only a few questions would have revealed as manufactured, we're in big trouble.
You'll go along with absolutely ANYTHING an authority tells you to do or think.
How you think that's a virtue is....beyond me.
I don't think you're interested in potential lessons at all. You ignored all the lessons from history already.
So, no. Not understandable at all.
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5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:
They want a fall guy that they can pin everything on, in order to protect everyone.
I just was reading this:
The Jig Is Up: It’s Time for Accountability for the Origin of COVID-19 (substack.com)
In a recent essay on the hearing, David Robertson, Ph.D., laid out the case for holding Daszak accountable for his role in covering up the possible origins of COVID-19.
“There is a risk,” Robertson cautioned, “that investigators will be content with laying blame exclusively at the feet of Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance. Making Peter Daszak the fall guy would fail to hold accountable the scientists and institutional funders who enabled his reckless research in Wuhan.”
He added:
“Whatever responsibility Daszak and researchers in Wuhan may bear for the pandemic, some of the most prominent officials and science institutions in biomedical research funded and promoted these experiments.
“Some of those very same officials then consistently misled the public about the possibility that research funded by US agencies may have contributed to the creation of SARS-CoV-2.”
Robertson told The Defender he hopes the ban announced today, “is a sign that investigators are willing to pursue this issue, rather than an indication that they have found an individual/organization they’ll be happy to pin everything on.”
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All cause weekly mortality in Canada, for both sexes, 0-44. This is historically the healthiest citizens.
2018 - Green - before the pandemic
2022 - Orange - peak pandemic. 80% vaccinated.
2023 - Blue - 200 more young people are dying each week compared to 2018. That's a 60-70% increase, while our population only increased by 12% in the same period.
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FOIA'ed info that has come up in the Subcommittee testimony by Lawrence Tabak:
From the emails:
"I learned from our FOIA (freedom of information act, the legislation that allows citizens to demand to see the work of the government) lady here how to make emails disappear after I am FOIA'd but before the search starts so I think we are all safe. plus, I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to gmail."
“we’re all smart enough to know to never have smoking guns and if we did, we wouldn’t put them in emails and if we found them, we would delete them.”
This is destruction of evidence in the face of investigation. It’s also the use of untracked unofficial emails for official business which is supposed to be a NO NO. And, obviously, this all pales in comparison to the underlying actions it was intended to conceal.
It was a bad day all in for NIH, Ecohealth, and Teflon Tony at congress.
Rep. James Comer:
"Finally, emails show that Dr. Moranz would share internal discussions regarding upcoming FOIA releases with Dr. Daszak. He would then help Dr. Daszak craft responses to documents being released in these FOIAs. Are those actions consistent with NIH policies?"
Then they lied.
It was relentless.
And they viscously attacked those who asked questions because they knew they were guilty but needed to play the victim.
An awful lot of good people got horrendously maligned and canceled trying to drag this into public view and belief.
If this gets swept under the rug and Fauci and Collins and Morens and Daszak and Baric and that hobbit Hotez skate, we’re in real trouble.
If they can walk away from this, literally anything can happen.
If there is no accountability for this, it’s just plain over. The last congresscritter out, please turn off the lights.
1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:They want a fall guy that they can pin everything on, in order to protect everyone.
The emails are pretty damning and all their names are on them.
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16 hours ago, WestCanMan said:
He'll spend zero days in jail and have zero dollars worth of assets seized.
Sometimes you get Al Capone for tax evasion.
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I have friends here in SK who have a GIANT greenhouse they built themselves - there's even banana trees growing in there. You know what they pump into the greenhouse to make the plants grow?
CO2.
85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths
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Climategate emails coming out now, too