WestCanMan

45 Senators already voted to dismiss the proceedings. The Dems won't get the 60 votes they need. It's a moot point. The Dems just want the process to carry on because they're fear mongering and creating division. Their ultimate goal was to get GOP supporters to riot but that's not going to happen.

BLM is extremely racist. That's not even a topic for debate.

OMG go read the dictionary. If I yell to a mob of people to kill the leader of a country it doesn't matter whether they do it or not. The crime of sedition has still been committed, regardless. Sedition is the crime of talking, period. Doing is treason, or rebellion. It's not sedition at all to dress up in body armour, carry guns, and even shoot at people during the commission of the attack. That's armed rebellion/treason, it's a lot of things but it's not even 1% sedition. Anyone who committed sedition is on the hook for sedition, by definition.

There was a statue debate, and at a later point a battle. He can talk about different things. He doesn't have to stay on CNN's topics. And tbh, he was just correcting a lie by CNN that said "one group attacked another group". It's ok for CNN to hate Nazis, in fact they should hate Nazis (they don't hate America's own Nazi party though for some reason), but that doesn't mean that they can lie about them. They don't need to lie. People hate Nazis whether they're starting fights or just getting into fights that are consensual. I know exactly what Trump meant on that call because I saw the transcripts. I don't need Sondland's opinion for sweet FA. Go read the transcripts yourself and then try and tell me that Trump asked for a favor that had anything at all to do with the prosecutor. He asked for a favor re: crowdstrike and that was it. Whatever Zelenski offers to do is his call. If you offer me a free TV right now it doesn't mean that I asked you to join a Dem-inspired riot, smash a window and steal me a flatscreen Sony. That's not how life works.

BLM is the nation's leading source of selectively edited videos which incite hatred and fear of the police. They are divisive, racist fear mongers at the very best. They are organized by a (white) domestic terrorist (an actual leftist terrorist, her people were leftists who planted bombs that intentionally killed Americans) that was let out of prison by a Democrat POTUS. Look it up.

You got sick of looking foolish is my guess. I wouldn't try to debate me either if I was you. Oh yeah, that's a totally reasonable and serious accusation. Pat yourself on the back genius. It is all verified. If you want an example of bullshit keep watching CNN. It's a bit late in the game for younot to be aware of basic facts. He did not incite an insurrection, this is just more BS from the party and news org of lies and BS. You're the liar who said that Trump said "March on Washington" and then you tried to deny that there's a difference between "March on Washington" and "March down to Washington" or whatever it was that he actually said. You don't get to tell blatant lies about a topic and then act like an authority on the subject. Your credibility is less than zero. So is CNN's. CNN had an "activist" (Anderson Cooper's words, not mine) named John Sullivan on AC360 and then noted right on the screen below his picture that he's the founder of "Insurgence USA" (I don't have to explain what that means). There's even video of him on YouTube inciting an attack on President Trump to remove him from office, and that happened when rioters were right outside the WH. If you're keeping score: 1) He's the leader of Insurgence USA, 2) He was calling for the violent removal of the POTUS, 3) At a riot in front of the Whitehouse. 4) It's impossible for CNN not to have known about that if they knew he was the founder of Insurgence USA. The guy's own brother has been interviewed on TV before, and he says that John is sick. His own brother said that. CNN knew who he was and what he did and they call that "activism". So, the company that is calling Trump seditious and treasonous actually SUPPORTS treason and they did it many, many times over the past 6 years. I have ample proof of more of it.

The fact that the Dems are guilty of two bogus impeachments isn't a blemish on Trump's record. What did he imply? Cite? "..... of the statue debate." You can't truncate someone else's sentence and then choose what to imply at the end of it. Go read the transcript of the call godzilla. That was directly followed up by a request to look into crowdstrike, and crowdstrike had to do with the bogus Russian collusion investigation. Trump's request had literally nothing to do with the prosecutor. It was Zelenski who brought up the issue of the prosecutor himself, but Dems lie about it and years later you're still propagating that lie. Is this out of blatant ignorance, stupidity or are you a liar godzilla? Choose one. Not sure what you mean by any of those things.

Anyone who wasn't voicing their disgust about it was supporting it. Anybody who says that they didn't think Harris, the Obamas, Waters, etc was guilty of inciting riots when they were doing it doesn't suddenly get to act like the anti-riot police. You're either offended by it whenever it happens or you think it's legal, period. You were totally defending inflammatory disinformation about Rayshard, Brionna, M Brown, G Floyd..... What do you think the net effect of that was? Why was the bodycam footage of the Floyd incident withheld so long? Why did it take 2 years for CNN to show footage of M Brown robbing the store that was out when the riots started? When the name of Brionna kept coming up at the riots why didn't CNN et al mention that Brionna's boyfriend fired the first shot, which hit a cop? All of those stations and Dems were talking about defunding police and pushing false narratives while America was burning. Now they're acting like do-gooders. They're vile hypocrites and supporting their third witch hunt is disgusting.

Why is it suddenly a topic now? Why weren't you calling it out for what it was back when it was happening?

I made it up? You never saw all the Maxine Waters stuff about harassing people in public? Or her 'joke' about taking out the president? You never saw Madonna or Depp talk about blowing up the WH or killing Trump? You never saw Obama blame "centuries of racism, slavery and Jim Crowe laws" for the assassination of 5 cops? You missed the part when Kamala Harris said that the riots "should not let up" when there was already billions of dollars in property damage, treasonous mobs were in front of the WH calling for an attack on Trump, people were being murdered, sovereign US soils was overrun, and cops were being assassinated? You don't think that Michelle Obama was supporting rioting when she told HIGH SCHOOL KIDS to "stay mad, focus your anger, and never let people tell you not to be angry"? You don't think it was supporting treason and rioting when Kathy Griffin held an effigy of a severed head? You do know that Rand Paul was attacked in his own yard, from behind, by a neighbour that he had no beef with? Do you think it was just random that some registered Demonrat showed up at a baseball game and started shooting members of the GOP? Steve Scalise was almost killed because of all the Dem/CNN hyper-bullshit and you just chalk it up to random gun violence? You honestly don't see a connection...... If we're being honest, I don't think that you're just being jocular.

As if that's what happened. You need to get the internet. What part of the article was inaccurate? That article was far more accurate than 99% of what's on CNN. Exactly, because it's just another fraud against the American people by the Democrats. You don't seem to understand that the last two impeachments were completely bogus and that Trump didn't incite an insurrection. That's a lot of, you know, 'silliness'?

Why I getting called out for mocking someone's stupidity when they're playing stupid? I get called names here all the time and I never saw a post telling beaverfever to knock it off. This song and dance about "I never supported the Dems when they were inciting violent riots" is total bullshit and you know that. If people want to blatantly lie here, or try to act like pertinent discussions about the Dems' repugnant behaviour are irrelevant, or they act like they're not supporting Dems when they completely ignore that repugnant behaviour, it's fair to call them out, accurately and with clarity, it it's fully supported by evidence. It is an adult forum and people are bringing it down just by carrying on with the same old tired lies. Like I said, if people don't like being mocked for their stupidity then they shouldn't play stupid. Some people need to own up to some actual facts and move on.

Hahaha, you said murder and that's pure bullshit. You aren't "acting". You're just doing it honestly. You supported the Dems while they incited rioting/murder/assassinations for years. Now all of a sudden you want to preach about how bad it is. No one wants to hear Adolf Hitler's speech about religious tolerance for the exact same reason that they don't care what you have to say about "the evils of rioting". When did you ever speak out against the rioting of 2014-2017, and in 2020? When did you ever call out the Dems or the Obamas for supporting it? Never. And failure to speak out against it for 3 years means that you utterly lack the credibility to speak out against the hour-long riot of Jan 6th which involved less than 200 people.

No, I think that everyone who commits voter fraud should be charged, unlike all of you Democrat supporters who supported Hillary's debate fraud, her Primary selection cheating, her Russian collusion fraud, and all the fraud that happened in 2020. It's really weird that you fell like justice should only be meted out in one instance. And by weird I mean hypocritical.

Juanita Broaddrick's friend was staying at the hotel with her and when she got back to the room she saw the bite mark on Broaddrick's lip. While the Starr commission didn't think that there was enough evidence to get a conviction, and that's probably the case seeing as JB went back and forth about whether or not she was raped a few times over the years, this is still a more serious and far more credible accusation against Bill than there ever was against Trump or Kavanaugh - by orders of magnitude. Anyone who would try to act like Trump and Kavanugh are guilty of something that Bill Clinton isn't far guiltier of is just a lying idiot. 1) Is Trump guilty of grabbing the vaginas of some ditzy bikini contest bimbos who were no doubt just as into it as he was? For absolute certain he was. Do you think that move is unique to Trump, or do you think that it's a move that's successful for billionaires, male strippers and pro athletes on a regular basis? For some people, it's their thing. FYI Anna Nicole Smith wasn't the only Playboy Bunny to marry an 80+ yr old billionaire. 2) Do I think that Trump raped a woman in a department store changing room? There's literally zero credible evidence to support that claim, and it wasn't even year-specific. Unless there's an actual rape allegation against Trump that I never heard of before, you look like a complete idiot for lending the story of "trump the rapist" any credibility.

Whoa, look who's talking again.... It was like you left here for a while or something . You'd better be careful. Last time I checked it was actually treasonous to talk about actual election fraud. You're only allowed to allege election fraud when it never really occurred. Once more, in English? If you could do simple math, you'd know that 100-45 is less than 60, and 45 Senators already voted to kick this latest impeachment sham to the curb. ?

GOP supporters rioted for less than 2 hours on one single day in the last 20 years and you're suddenly acting like the Dems are the party of law and order? LMAO bc, that's literally retarded and you're the last person on earth to pontificate to anyone. The only despicable lowlifes are the ones who egged on the rioting, looting, arson, assaults on police, racial violence, the hostile takeover of sovereign American soil, the murders of innocent people and the assassinations of police officers. There's literally no excuse for the Dems to have supported all of that. Not one single excuse. When cops were going to work every day and getting verbally & physically assaulted regularly the Dems and CNN were even calling for "de-funding the police". Yeah, just turn on your backs on those guys when they actually need your support the most you god-damned traitors. Even a lot of lowlife, scumbag Dem supporters thought that was too far, it hurt their precious ratings, so they scaled it back, but never forget that the Demonrats actually talked about defunding the police at the height of the rioting (when they also refused to send in the National Guard). The Dems are repugnant, worthless, irredeemable losers and what can I say about the fact that you support them?

Impacted, sure, but the big mortality numbers that covid put up, which stopped the economy, came from the very elderly and very sick. The effect that covid had on healthy people wouldn't have been enough to warrant any change to the economy, or schools. Eg, 2,000 American children died from the swine flu when Obama was president and there were no lockdowns. Less than 200 American children died from covid. There definitely wouldn't be lockdowns at the level we're seeing here from covid if not for the effect that it had on the diseased/elderly.

The problem is, you actually are. The Dem/CNN shitshow is their circus and you're one of their monkeys. My view on those three is that they are saints compared to the Dems that I mentioned. Even a Democrat AG has raised serious questions about Cuomo's actions during covid. It came out months ago on Fox that Cuomo was sending infected patients back to care homes where the virus was killing people by the thousands. Then when the people who were infected by those sick people got sent to the hospital and died there a few hours later, the state classified them as "hospital deaths" to artificially lower the number of "care-home deaths". Fact is that Cuomo's own policy of sending infected people to care homes (instead of the hospital ship or covid quarantine centers that were built) was a lot like mass, serial murder. CNN and the Dems were happy to put all of those NY State care home deaths on Trump, but it wasn't Trump's policy that was killing people. Trump was busy 1) getting hospital ships up to NY and 2) getting the Army Corps of Engineers up there to build hospitals and 3) he had shut down the national economy and 4) he got companies mass-producing respirators to fight covid, and 5) started operation Warp Speed, Cuomo was just busy sending sick people back to care homes to infect people and then juggling numbers to hide the fact that his policy killed several thousands of people. Keep in mind, this wasn't death by inaction or oversight, his own bad policies actively killed people. Here's a brief summary of the MSM coverage: Leftists don't know about this story for the same reason they never heard of Michel Fournier. The MSM doesn't want you to know.

No. One was credibly accused as a violent rapist. The accusation against the other would never get serious consideration in a court of law for several different reasons. Trudeau has also been accused of inappropriate sexual touching. Is he the same as those two? No. There are different levels and no reasonable person would deny that.

I like you don't understand the difference between: - I was raped in about 2006 or 2007 in a dept store changing room. I don't have any witnesses and I never talked about it before to anyone. And, - I was raped on Apr 25th 1978 at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock, Arkansas. I have a witness, and Bill Clinton was in that town on that day with nothing on his official itinerary at the time the incident is alleged to have occurred. I guess this is the sort of mental self-deception you need to engage in to be in a cult.

Trump's trade war with China may not have been enough to spark this, but Trump bragging that he won the trade war definitely added to the likelihood that China would find a way to retaliate. This virus helped China in two ways: 1) culling their own population and 2) shutting down America's booming economy. Right when this virus came from China I was mentioning that the Chinese government wasn't shy about killing millions of their own citizens in the 40s and 50s, and they were 'taking action against 2nd babies' in the last few generations to curb population growth, so if they found a virus that just killed the very elderly & unhealthy, IE people who are a drain on society, I wouldn't put it past them to let it ravage their own population. The fact that there are so many obese, unhealthy Americans makes it seem as if covid was tailor-made to target the US as well. Covid was a win-win for China imo.

Sure. Get ready for a sharp increase in terrorist attacks, a sharp decline in living conditions in American cities, the death of free speech, fascism, and the rapid growth of Chinese power over America.

You're aligned with Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Andrew Cuomo, AOC..... That's not a game you wanna play dude. Every single one of those people is a serial liar and a worthless half-wit. I'd just love for you to try to vouch for the character of even one of those irredeemable losers right now lol.

If you're following that conversation, which I'll admit may be a tad much to ask of you, it's about a comparison between Trump and other presidents, which is an absolutely normal thing to do. How else do you think one would gauge the relative strengths, weaknesses and character flaws of a president? Compare him to your mailman, or the kid who bags your groceries? In this instance, we were talking about the people that Trump associates with. Argus tried to make the point that associating with Manafort was an evil thing to do, and I pointed out that Trump was not the first presidential candidate to work with Manafort. He was a campaign financier for more than just Trump, so you could argue that it would be stupid for Trump to choose someone without experience of that nature. That's not an example of 'whataboutism', that's an example of me taking the wind out of Argus's sails. Again, stop using big words. They're not your friends. These are adult topics godzilla. I get that you're passionate about them, they're just over your head.