WestCanMan

And yet the BC Gesundheitspass is extended until June 30th.

Your whole post was just worthless, snotty accusations without any cites at all.

Over 2,500 dbl-and triple-poked Canadians have died since mid-Dec. It's almost exactly twice as many as unpoked. Would you want to sit next to a pfizerated person?

So when I was skiing on the weekend there is a cafeteria where you don't need a gesundheitspass, and there's a licensed restaurant the same size with table service, TVs and a bigger menu where you do need the vax pass. IMO the added options of the restaurant make it far more appealing. Sometimes the number of people in both areas was about equal, sometimes there were noticeably more people in the licensed area, but nothing like dbl at any point that I was in the area. Sure, the ski hill is a place where most of the people are healthy, so of course the need for vaxing isn't nearly as strong, but in a province where there are theoretically 9x as many people with the gesundheitspass, you'd expect the turnout in the licensed area to be several times higher. And the 9x stat doesn't even include people with a fake gesunheitspass, and we know of people who are flying to other countries using fake passes. I don't really believe the 90% stat. I just don't. I think it's like another instance of fake polling to try and make it seem like "the cool kids are all doing this".

Statista updated the "covid deaths by vax status" page now. Since mid-Dec the totals are: Unvaxed: 1,286 Deaths (9,147 - 7,861 = 1,286) Dbl-vaxed: 1,325 Deaths (2,306 - 981 = 1,325) Dbl +Boost: 1,189 Deaths Total for Dbl + Triple vaxed since Dec 15th: 2,514. It's almost exactly double the unvaxed total. The total for Triple vaxed was 868 last week, there were 321 t-vaxed deaths since the last update, which was approximately 1 week ago. Basically, we're not hearing about covid deaths anymore because 2/3 of them are among the dbl and triple vaxed. The war in Ukraine is providing cover for the vax failures and for the SCJ nomination process in the US (SCJ nominee is a total zero).

The only people who have in elections anymore are the ones who win. Do I have any faith in an election held by the Ukrainian gov't on what the citizens of Crimea wanted? ?

Yeah, the illusion of NATO being a defensive alliance is out the window now, and Poland is a co-belligerant in this war. If those planes hit Russian targets in Ukraine that's bad, if they hit a target on Russia's side of the border that will be a massive escalation. I hope their planes don't last a day.

Last night on TCT, Tucker mentioned that there were several care homes in Wisconsin, a key swing state, which had 100% voter turnout. That's despite the fact that some of those seniors had already been mentally incompetent. I googled it today, and came up with this site that I can't vouch for at all: https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2022/03/new-election-review-details-vote-fraud-at-nursing-homes-and-illegal-advantage-given-to-zuckerbergs-partisan-groups/ There's much more in there than just fraudulent care home ballots. Lots there to unpack. I seriously wasn't expecting all that. NPR's attempted rescue: https://www.wpr.org/wisconsin-elections-commission-pushes-back-gableman-report Of course NPR will do their best to downplay the aforementioned information, but they only touch on part of it, and even then not to much effect. Their article is full of misleading quotes such as this: That's all well and good, but no one said anything specific about Milwaukee. The report mentioned specific care homes where 100% of the residents voted with mail-in ballots. I'm still recovering from the weekend (skiing, golf and baseball) and I had a long day today. When I got into this I was expecting more of a molehill than a mountain. Maybe tomorrow.

That's a "1 billion deaths" scenario. Not the ideal outcome.

That's fine. Dog eat dog. I'm just not entertaining conversations about "Russian war crimes against people who are shooting at them." If someone shots at a uniformed soldier then gets their head taken clean off IDGAF if they're pregnant. They're just a deceased combatant.

This war wasn't aggressive at all by the Nuremberg Principles. Ukraine was bringing an aggressive military force (NATO is not living up to it's charter as a defensive treaty) right to Russia's border, complete with nuclear weapons, biological warfare agents, chemical weapons, cruise missiles, stealth fighters, bombers, artillery, etc. Your idea of what the laws are doesn't match up with the actual laws: Omar Khadr was well within his rights to throw a grenade at uniformed soldiers while he dressed as a civilian by your standards. You don't get to have it both ways.

That doesn't change the fact that they're still abiding by the laws of war and the Ukraine isn't. Accusations of war crimes are serious, I'm merely clearing up some misconceptions that people here have about what constitutes a 'war crime'. I didn't even bring the topic of war crimes into this thread, MH did. If we're keeping score, Zelenski was committing a war crime by urging his citizens to commit war crimes en masse (attacking Russian soldiers while not in uniform). The Russians stated their reasons to attack, they gave fair warning, they're attacking like a professional army with reasonable, established, acceptable methods, and the Ukrainians are fighting like war criminals. That's fine, I'm not the one bitching about this topic, but when it comes up I'm definitely going to set the record straight.

@Ukrainian stooges - for your edification: Any civilian who isn't in some kind of a uniform, who shoots at Russians, is an unlawful combatant and not protected by the Geneva Conventions. They can shoot at Russians if they want to, anyone has the right to self defence, but the Russians absolutely have the right, under the codified laws of war, to shoot back with lethal force. They can snipe them, strafe them with MG fire, whatever they want. Soldiers also have the right to self defence. If SAMs or LAWs are being fired from any type of building it's well within the laws of war to return fire with a barrage/bombardment. The Ukrainians could play this relatively safely for their people, but they're not. Their civilians are shooting at soldiers. Their soldiers are mustering inside of schools as cover. They're going low. They have no honour. Now they're facing some shelling. Oh well: it sucks to suck.

It's a real war. This was not a surprise attack. Zelensky had many direct and unmistakeable warnings. Like it or lump it. In case you forgot, Zelensky told his civilian population to fight. When they do, and when they get shot, by snipers or anyone else, it's not Putin's fault. Your moral compass is set to 'obey propaganda': you never had any credibility when this thread started and yet somehow you're still going downhill. You're a little puppet man, driven this way and that by the MSM. You have no ability to think for yourself or to make sense of what's happening around you. You hear the MSM narrative and, regardless of whether or not that conflicts all of the facts that you've been exposed to, you just instantly absorb that narrative and start regurgitating it as if it's the key to your existence. FYI Russian soldiers are in Ukraine because Zelensky felt like Putin wasn't serious about what would happen if Zelensky kept pushing closer to NATO. FYI Russian soldiers are getting shot at by civilians because Zelensky told his citizens to shoot at them. Now Zelensy's citizens are getting killed because they listened to Zelensky. FYI Russian soldiers are allowed to fight back when they're attacked. If the Russians/RCMP/Chinese/FBI surround your house and your family is in there with you, do you start shooting at them, oblivious to the consequences? Are you as stupid as the Ukrainians? Go find me something in the Geneva Conventions that says that civilians can shoot at soldiers without recourse. Do you know what you'll actually find out? Uniformed soldiers actually have more protections from the GCs than unlawful combatants. Shooting at soldiers when you're not wearing a uniform (a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance) is a war crime. Zelensky is asking his civilians to commit war crimes. Russia is abiding by the laws of war. Sometimes you gotta choose to live to fight another day. If that means that you have to accept the rule of a foreign power then so be it. The only time that you fight with your family right there is if they're gonna be attacked. Then it's blaze of glory time. Sorry MH but you're way off base here. Stupidly so. It's like you came from a planet where there was no such thing as war, rolled out of bed, watched twenty seconds of "the news", and started running your mouth.

TBH there's nothing to prove. Putin told Ukraine many times to stay away from NATO or it would come to this. We even saw it on our own news channels who pretend not to know it. If anything you'd have to prove that Putin really wanted to invade no matter what, and it's impossible to say that for him.

Dude, Russia is at war. It's a real war. If Ukrainians want to shoot at soldiers that's fine, but then they make their homes into viable targets. That's war. I wouldn't shoot at Russian troops from my house if my family was in there.

Zelensky is like Trudeau. He's the media darling right now. He could say he eats boogers, kicks puppies and loves Ukraine and all you'll hear is that "he loves Ukraine". The world is rallying around "the media hype around Zelensky". The truth about Zelensky is that he is an idiot and he got his country into a war with Russia. When there were no troops around Ukraine he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 25K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 50K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 75K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 100K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 125K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 150K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Putin said "Don't do that". Then when there were 175K troops moved to the border around Ukraine, he said he wanted to join NATO. Kamala Harris flew to Europe and said "We love that you wanna join NATO" or sone dumb crap like that. Now there's war. Now Zelensy's people are getting killed. Now Ukraine's buildings are getting destroyed. Zelensky is no hero, he's a dolt.

Zelensky is an actor. He's not leading anything. He's probably not even in Ukraine right now.

The Poles are supplying the Ukrainians with fighter jets now, so the Russians are ramping up the attack. Also, when the Ukrainians launch missiles and fight from buildings they become viable targets. War is shitty. It's best not to start those things, but Zelensky started this and now it's gonna have to play itself out, one way or another.

Still, Kennedy is considered a hero for doing the exact same thing that Putin is doing. I don't blame Russia at all.

Yes. He's not going to let Ukraine bring NATO in. No one knows how many have died. Zelensky said that but he's obviously not going to tell the truth. Stop watching CNN and CTV and then acting like you know wtf is going on. It's so annoying.

Your post was unbelievably stupid. I never said this war was about Hunter at all. You talked about whether or not Russia should be able to influence who the leader of Ukraine is, I said that the Americans don't just do that stuff with their neighbours, they do it to everyone all over the world. I thought that you started off you post with full retard, but then somehow you managed to kick it up a notch. 1) There's no genocide here. Ukraine's own body count sys a few hundred Ukrainians and 10,000 Russian soldiers 2) The smoking hole formerly known as Iraq just called, they want to know what constitutes genocide, or a legitimate reason for war.

The US does that all the time, and not just with their next door neighbours, they do it on every continent. Just listen to Biden's idiotic boast about his quid pro quo when he got the top prosecutor in Ukraine fired. People fixate on the first part, about how Biden used American loan guarantees to oust the prosecutor that was there, and ignore the cute little part where Biden said "and I replaced him with a guy that was solid" (ie, who ignored Burisma, and Zlochevsky was allowed to come back to Burisma). American Joe Biden unilaterally appointed the top prosector in Ukraine. The CEO of Burisma got all of his toys back. No biggie.

I was speaking more to the justification behind Kennedy drawing his line in the sand around Cuba, and Putin drawing his line in the sand at Ukraine. People in NA almost universally support Kennedy's stand against Russia, because the silos were too close to home, and every one of those people who supported Kennedy is somehow against Russia's stance against Ukraine joining NATO. It's hypocrisy of the highest order. IDGAF about Ukraine. They had their chance to notice all the tanks and troops around them. They could have done what they needed to do in order to keep their citizens safe. Russia can bomb them (conventional bombs, not nukes) for all I care. I wouldn't give Ukraine the steam off my shit. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

This is a thread to just talk about the war and the events of the war in a non-partisan manner. The "Dummying" Thread is more about Biden's ineptitude and the damage done, but we're past that now and people are dying. It's just a war, and Dem Presidents are not getting killed in it. Map of the hotspots: https://liveuamap.com Casualties: Ukranians were claiming that 352 Ukranian civilians were killed and 1700 were injured. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/russia-ukraine-invasion-casualties-death-toll Zelensy claims that "almost 10,000 Russian soldiers have been killed": I'm not sure if the Ukrainians know how propaganda works, or if they know how math works, but if Russian troops really came in and killed so few people, while taking such heavy losses, while enjoying such a massive military advantage and so many soft targets to hit, then they really are doing a masterful job of staging a bloodless war and they're to be commended for their restraint. Are there US biolabs in Ukraine? Some say yes: https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/03/04/u-s-chemical-weapons-manufacturing-in-ukraine-revealed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=u-s-chemical-weapons-manufacturing-in-ukraine-revealed Some say no: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/25/fact-check-claim-us-biolabs-ukraine-disinformation/6937923001/ Even if the first part is true we will never know so it's a moot point. Russia will say yes, America will say no, and never the twain shall meet. End of story. What's for sure is that if Ukraine joined NATO, there absolutely would be bioweapons and strategic nukes in eastern Ukraine, regardless of what treaties and conventions say. Cuban Missile Crisis: The similarities between this war and the Cuban missile crisis are obvious. If Russia allows Ukraine to join NATO they are screwed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis For the people who say that Russia had no right/need to invade Ukraine, I would just be interested in 1) whether or not you feel like the US had the right to block Russian missiles from entering the sovereign nation of Cuba, who wanted the Russians there and 2) how this is any different from the Cuban Missile Crisis? Of course actual war broke out here, but the US also threatened war with Russia if they didn't relent in Cuba.