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More likely his supporters are drugged, I think. All a plot by the Republican elite - they know the addresses of their supporters and embed special nano cells into Republican correspondence so supporters don't notice Trump's lies, contradictions, and outright bizarre behavior. Democrats are still studying the drug to figure out why it works so well on conservatives but so poorly on liberals.

And if a US citizen doesn't want to sell or lease their property? Does the government just go away? Apparently not: I repeat: Private property rights do not in fact exist in the States any more than they do in Canada, despite the paper rights.

Easily or not, they still do it. So what's the difference? Americans have property rights on paper, but not in fact.

Yeah, doesn't the government there just take the land when the want it?

A lot more people think global warming is real, including a lot more scientists. Trump isn't going to be affected by global warming. I probably won't be much either, but you probably will be. Wonder if you'll look back at your comments here and wonder how you were so determined to ignore all the evidence?

Argus is against it? Must be a better idea than I originally thought.

What a shame people can't "Like" moderator posts.

Since the White/European Canadian population is not increasing, how is Canada supposed to progress economically without immigration?

*shrugs* Some Muslims would say that it applies to everyone, not just other Muslims. Just as Betsy told us in another thread that Christians need only show compassion and love for other Christians, but my Christian friends here in town tell me that Christians should show compassion and love for all people, not just other Christians. People are not monolithic single-thinkers just because they share a label or even a few similar characteristics. I know that's a difficult concept for you, Argus, but perhaps you could try a little harder not to assume everyone fits into your rigid and mostly unkind boxes.

So it occurs to me to ask - how many people applied in Rome vs Nairobi? According to this site, Canada does focus on immigrants who will be an economic benefit to Canada. If Kenya is a terrible place to live and Italy isn't, wouldn't it make sense that more Kenyans would want to leave and that accounts for the difference in numbers? And given the points system Canada uses that focuses on education and work experience - could it be that the Kenyan immigrants are just as economically viable as the Italian ones?

Maybe we could build a bridge? Would it have to be 4-lane or 6-lane?

Yes, people are willing to die for what they believe in. But dying for something doesn't give credibility to that something.

If the Quran says "Muslims must be just", then wouldn't that make Justice an Islamic value? I think he's saying that "These are Islamic values, although they are not being practiced by the governments in Islamic countries. There are a lot of corrupt governments in the world; we don't normally assume that just because the government is corrupt that the people living in those countries lack values of justice or mercy or honesty. Or maybe you do? Anyway, I agree with what you said previously - yearning for justice and opportunity aren't specifically Western or Islamic values - they're human values.

Religious and political leaders have a long history of using religion as a tool to manipulate people. If you think otherwise, you are naive. FGM is a cultural practice, not an Islamic one. It's practiced by Muslims, Christians, and "others" throughout Africa and the Middle East. Even the Beta Isreal sect practiced it until the 1990s - along with their Christian and Muslim neighbors in Ethiopia. So when statistics say, for example, that 82% of Egyptian women have suffered FGM, they 82% of all women, Christian and Muslim. It has also been practiced at various times in other parts of the world, including England and America briefly in the mid-1800s. It was thought to be useful for women who didn't like sex, didn't like their husband or even just talked back. As for your other comments, religious people rarely make much sense when they're doing what they think God is telling them to do.

I think he is pointing out that Islamic values are not so different than Western values.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/10888707/Ireland-leads-the-world-in-Islamic-values-as-Muslim-states-lag.html

Yup. Many different beliefs out there. I would say that my brother-in-law believes and practices what he tells me. I have the same confidence in some others, and a couple of Muslim acquaintances who I do suspect are merely mouthing the words. I suppose the major difference between you and I is that I don't see a huge difference between us and them. There are a range of behaviors within any large group. My primary exposure to Muslims has consisted of educated and intelligent people, who are devout but not extreme in behavior or attitude.

Not according to my Muslim brother in law and several Muslim friends I've asked. According to them, you are wrong. The enmity between Jews and Muslims seems to be political rather than religious. Not that it makes Imams calling for death of Jews ok at all.

This is your belief about the Christian God. It is not universally shared by all Christians. Saying "they are wrong and I'm right" isn't credible since you are all using the same book to prove your case. Yet Islam accepts Christians and Jews into Heaven; they don't even have to convert according to my Muslim friends and relatives. Although its better if they do for some reason. Religious people make so little sense so much of the time. Anyway I find your inability to accept any other than your own interpretation of God's word as valid too limiting for further discussion. Not much interested in having to constantly remind you that there are a range of beliefs in Christianity, all supported by the Bible.

Allah means God in Arabic. It's the same God as Christians and Jews worship, according to Muslims. Thus Jews and Christians can also be accepted into Heaven; the three religions are all valid paths to God. Not all Christians believe in the Holy Ghost. Most believe Jesus is the son of God; Muslims assign Jesus equal importance as Mohammed, but do not consider him God's son. Muslims do not consider their relationship with God "impersonal". The ones I talk to also don't seem to have much doubt about being saved, as long as they follow God's commands. So a killer or homosexual who had faith would get into heaven along with the person who had attended Church and performed good works throughout their life?

Interesting. I don't think any closed Christian group would do well if investigated for rampant sexual abuse of women and children. But not really fair to just blame Christianity: it seems sexually abusing the less powerful is hardwired into humans, especially male humans.

Just off the top of my head: Belief in one true God, belief that their holy book is the word of God, belief that women submit to men, that women's role is nuturer and child raiser, that man's role is to support, direct and control women, belief that homosexuals are unacceptable to God, belief in charity and mercy, belief that they submit to earthly authorities, unless that means going against God's law, belief that God will take care of wrongdoers.

If you go back and read what I posted, you will see that I specified situations where Christians are in positions of political and/or social power: closed Christian groups such as Mennonites, countries such as Uganda where people are very religious and throughout history where Christians held power. I also pointed out that as Christianity lost political and social power in Western countries, patriarchal attitudes decreased along with oppression of minorities. I spent quite a few years studying the Bible and discussing it with people from different evangelical churches.

No, they aren't. Do you even know what Muslims believe?

Why wouldn't they be applying here rather than the States then? I haven't seen anything suggesting that we turn away Europeans or Indians in favor of Middle Eastern and African applicants. Do we?