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Not universally true. But saying spreads the agenda of hatred and conflict.

Some think so, but that didn't answer my question.

You are as nutty as our resident 9/11 Evil American Empire poster(s).

There have been several motions passed in regards to anti-Semitism over the years, including an extensive document defining what constitutes anti-Semitism. JT (and presumably Harper when he was in power) acknowledges important Jewish dates. There have been two motions regarding anti-Muslim sentiment and JT also acknowledges important Islamic dates; do not know of Harper did or not. So where are Muslims being treated specially, exactly?

Not really. Jews get equally 'special' treatment, since they are also subject to religiously motivated harassment and hate crimes.

And me. I don't want a Christian State any more than I want an Islamic State. Keep your religious paws off my government.

Probably true, at least historically. But in an age where all areas of the world are connected, isn't it possible that global instability could 'turn back the clock' everywhere? True. I've often been accused here of defending horrific practices or ignoring serious human rights issues within a certain culture. I don't think that's true, but it seems the only way to avoid these accusations is to agree that the most horrific actions define an entire specific group. That isn't a discussion and it requires ignoring certain things, such as only the most unusual actions make the international news and thus by definition aren't definitive of that group and/or that the same thing happens in other groups as well and so again aren't definitive of that group.

No, you didn't. Instead you attacked the questioner. That's not an answer, its avoidance.

Having the police come to the door demanding to have your daughter examined because a neighbor called a snitch line for no reason than their own bigotry would be an abuse of a snitch line.

Me too! But I like to keep such exclusions to my personal circle, not the entire country. Much as I might find conservatives frustrating and annoying, I also believe they must bring something of value to the country, else why would we have them?

I'm trying to think of a human rights case between two individuals. Nothing comes to mind, but I'm no expert. Still, I think it's accurate to say that the majority of cases are of individuals bringing cases against their employers. It seems to me that requiring employees to have to pay to ensure their rights are being met is likely to be too much of a hardship. Employers are not necessarily the most diligent at ensuring they're not breaking the law. Perhaps, if a case is determined to be 'frivolous', the accuser should be required to pay his own fees? Anyway, most employers would rather pay that $2000 to a lawyer than to have the employee win and have to pay much more, eh?

They lost, so what's the issue? Why not be pleased that our system is robust enough to be questionned?

In person I'm sure I'd have figured it out - it was cute and I'm usually pretty quick. Online, an emoticon helps.

I think that has something to do with ensuring that everyone is entitled to ensure their rights are protected. An offset to the way in which organizations can use their superior financial resources to break the law. Nothing is perfect, but it's better than giving the poor and downtrodden absolutely no voice.

And if they're caught, they should be fired. Although, it occurs to me late that I'd probably support getting their job back if they successfully rehabbed. I really was just taking the opportunity to agree with Blackbird because I so rarely do. _____ Wait a minute: in what context are you saying "using drugs"????

You are probably right. I am certain I could get an abortion if I wanted, other than PEI, I'm unaware of any controversy about abortion. But my point still stands: we're more likely to experience religious tyranny under the religious right than under Muslims.

What about them?

I agree; if someone is using drugs on the job, they should be fired.

Glad your bot is working so well, alerting you to any reference to the States. But, since you have chosen to weigh in - not "even more so". PEI is just one province; how many republican states do you have who are doing their damndest to erode the rights of gays and women?

Egypt doesn't want to execute gays either; they just jail them - like Russia does. Nigeria imposes the death penalty; half of Nigeria is Christian. Do Nigerian Christians have to pass a 'values' test?

You're right: I forgot to say the vast majority of immigrants fail to break Canadian laws. Just like the vast majority of born-in-Canada Canadians fail to break Canadian laws.

I just want to say that I agree with you more than I don't. I think "vast numbers" is relative. There are about 35 million people in Canada and just over 1 million Muslims. But aside from that, I think the error people are making is assuming that the most conservative people choose to come to Canada. Why would they? They aren't as ignorant as so many like to think: they have access to social media, to our television programs, they watch our elections and they read our media outlets. They have a pretty good idea of what they're choosing, so even before they apply they've figured out that gays are tolerated and women are equal. They may assume or hope or expect that their own family will maintain their 'home-country' values, but they may also be eager to experience a more liberal society. Perhaps if all the immigrants were being lifted, willy-nilly, from small villages where they have no internet and rampant illiteracy, this fear of extreme conservatism amongst Muslims emigrating to Canada would be warranted. But that's not the case, except possibly in the case of refugees - but even they are given a choice of emigrating to a liberal country or staying where they are closer to home/family. Given what even Argus has posted about conservative vs. liberal, surely it must be clear that the majority of immigrants are going to be of the 'open' variety - open to new experience, open to new cultures, open to what Canada offers for personal freedom. Many conservatives have alluded to this in their fear that immigrants will choose to vote for a 'progressive' party instead of 'conservative' party, even though the rate of immigration has remained essentially unchanged regardless of whether liberals or conservatives are in charge. Refugees are a different matter, of course, so their level of conservatism may well be higher. Still, even they are given a choice and many choose to stay close to home, close to what's familiar. Even if they are more conservative, they comprise only 10% of the total number of immigrants we accept each year. Religious tyranny is more likely from Christians than Muslims, imo. Look at what is happening in Republican states: laws against gays and abortion are constantly being proposed and passed. Each time the religious right wins a 'Christian' court case, it goes for another. It's a constant battle, one that many people are entirely unaware of. Consider how happy the religious right is with Trump: they see him as their ticket to a 'Christian' nation - one that oppresses gays, women and anyone who believes 'differently'.

One of the witnesses was involved in taking her (or someone) to safety. So the attack as Lara described either did not happen, or happened after she was taken to the soldiers at the Museum Military post, or the witnesses saw and were involved in rescuing someone different. I read the only account I found, which was hers; one person (her producer, I think?) said he saw her after but did not mention her being naked. I think women's claims of assault should be believed as well but if a witness or four comes forward and says "That's not what I saw", then I think it's ok to take that into account as well. Certainly, something happened to Lara that was traumatic - I'm just not sure what it was, exactly. I would only hope she's making it up because I wish that didn't happen to her, whatever it was. Whether she was groped and harassed by a large group, or groped, harassed and stripped naked - it must have been absolutely terrifying for her.

Well, it seems pointless to debate exactly what happened. Either Lara is lying and Temoris Grecko (the blogger) Benjamin Starr, Amr Fekry, and Abdulrahman Elsayed are not or vice versa. Or possibly something happened after Elsayed and several other young men delivered her to the soldiers are the Museum Military post. Or perhaps these witnesses saw a different blonde woman being harassed and have mistaken her for Lara. In any case, the comments in the first blog post and in the follow-up are quite interesting reading. Didn't see that in Temoris's article; did see her say that journalists tend to try to keep a low profile in those kinds of situations and that Lara may have drawn attention to herself by the way in which she was dressed, the fact that she was with a well-recognized media outlet. Another interesting first-person event in Tahrir Square the night Mubarek stepped down, here.

Perhaps we need to also forbid fundamental, conservative Christians from growing their numbers too, so we can assure ourselves we aren't allowing people to choose unCanadian values.