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And for a better understanding of why those companies pay such low taxes, please refer to page 11 of the ctj report: http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/CorporateTaxDodgersReport.pdf Accelerated depreciation, and stock options compensation. Stock options are taxed in the hands of the executives. Other than the optics to hippies, what's the difference if I pay $0 in taxes, but my CEOs pay $200 million taxes on stock option income, or if I pay $200 million in taxes and my CEOS pay $0 stock option income taxes? "So long as the company continues to invest"... Heaven forbid we encourage companies to continue to invest in capital to increase productivity.

So we should just implant armed nuclear weapons in newborn infants and drop them on China? Are you nuts? Now go find where either of us made either of these arguments.

And for a better understanding of why those companies pay such low taxes, please refer to page 11 of the ctj report: http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/CorporateTaxDodgersReport.pdf Accelerated depreciation, and stock options compensation. Stock options are taxed in the hands of the executives. Other than the optics to hippies, what's the difference if I pay $0 in taxes, but my CEOs pay $200 million taxes on stock option income, or if I pay $200 million in taxes and my CEOS pay $0 stock option income taxes? "So long as the company continues to invest"... Heaven forbid we encourage companies to continue to invest in capital to increase productivity.

Actually the odds are 50-1 that we won't get the best person. My statistics are a bit rusty, so correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure the odds that we don't get the best people would be 0.02^315,000 (which is infinitesimally small). Of course it can be argued that the odds any job is filled by the best person is very small.. However excluding 98% of the population is a surefire way of ensuring you don't get the best people. Note: 315,000 is the amount of federal government jobs in Canada. This also excludes the possibility that any of the 2% selected for any one job is not the best person for other federal government jobs as well.

Are you trying to compare the amount of federal governemnt jobs in the West and Maritimes to the amount of federal jobs in Ontario and Quebec? Ontario alone has an entire city of federal employees living in their own dream world of defined benefit pensions and unicorns. http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/govt58a-eng.htm 133k out of 315k federal government jobs are in Ottawa-Gatineau. Another 60k are in Montreal, Toronto, or Quebec City. 10k more in Kingston and Hamilton. There's 2/3rds of federal government jobs in those 6 cities alone (and still a good 20k jobs left in smaller cities). Alberta has 18.5k (5.8% of 315k) federal government jobs and almost 11% of Canada's population. BC has 28.7k (9% of 315k) federal government jobs and 13% of Canada's population. Saskatchewan has 5.8k (1.8% of 315k) federal government jobs and 3% of Canada's population. Nova Scotia 20k (6.3% of 315k) federal government jobs and 2.7% of Canada's population. Ontario/Quebec 223k (71% of 315k) federal government jobs and 61% of Canada's population. The hidden transfer payments.

How many unaccounted transfer payments are there in the thousands of federal government jobs in ON and QC? Who pays for those jobs and pensions? Federal taxpayers across the country. There's more than just the transfer payments going to these have-not provinces.. There's billions in salaries and pensions for bureaucrats. It's a system designed to prop up failed socialist ideals.

isn't that what you lefties call the "race to the bottom"? I guess alberta should just reduce their provincial income tax to zero. Take all the jobs while also becoming a "have not" province and shifting the entire burden of services onto other provinces overpaying federal taxes. Delusional, hypocritical, typical leftist nonsense.

Well how could the liberals have known that wealth isn't measured in trees, windmills, teachers, nurses, and self-righteousness?

Gr 7 studies? We got an arts major talking sh*t here.

Well, having secured a hefty 37% of the popular vote compared to the conservative party's paltry 35%, McGuinty does have a strong mandate from the electorate to stick it to the conservatives. Most important point: Both ON and especially QC are have-not provinces as well getting transfer payments from the West. They have no leg to stand on. "Hell no we won't pay!! Ok now can you sign over that transfer payment cheque?" Silly hippies.

You did get your cut. It went to the Chinese government to pay back loans for welfare, unemployment, and government pension payments to your neighbors and other citizens. Sweet deal eh? Welcome to the Borg where all must be equal.

It's not difficult for me to understand. It's simple to understand that liberals love to make excuses based on conjecture. Could it be because 40% of people didn't care enough to vote, or didn't think they understood which party would be the best for Canada, or didn't have the time to vote? No. It has to be because the system doesn't work and 40% of voters are disillusioned with democracy! Voter apathy is a joke, it's not a requirement to be involved in politics. You can opt out if you want to go out partying and drinking rather than learning about economics, politics, and the various party platforms. It doesn't have to be 100% voter turnout to be a meaningful election. Once again, another useless lefty "issue". Making mountains out of every molehill they come upon.

Back to the old, everyone who didn't vote would have voted against the Conservatives argument. Around and round we go.

Haha great link. I guess I'm not the first to see the similarities..

1. Want more equality. 2. Despite being a minority, want to use force to bring equality to the majority. 3. Repeat mindless slogans, eg. We are the borg! You will be assimilated! We are the 99%! (Insert repeated hippy sentence fragments here)! 4. Obsessed with cubes (probably). Please feel free to add more similarities!

Leave it to the left to make a mountain out of a molehill and generalize 40% of the population based on the comments of one person. Omg rob ford said the f word!?! Bring out the guillotine!! What!? Someone had an independant thought and believes the polar bear would be more representative of Canada than the beaver? Call in the firing squad!! How dare she form that opinion without at least 6hrs of groupthink and brainstorming, and without cross-referencing her opinion against at least 4 blogs and 10 tweets? Silly conservatives and their independent free thought! Now if you'll excuse me, some hippy at OWS is shouting sentence fragments and I feel compelled to repeat his every word like a mindless drone. Too much inequality! All must be equal! We are the borg! I mean the 99%!!

No I don't. Unless you think an aggregate is biased? If me and you were the only two people in the world, would our decisions be biased towards one or the other?

Buyers and sellers. Because unions are a distortion of the market. They create a monopoly on the supply of labour (for a particular industry/trade/etc.)

Are you serious? Talk about missing the point... No I don't have a link to "prove" my hypothetical situation/example. I don't have a bank of propaganda blog posts to link to as "proof" like you lefties.

It all boils down to who should determine the value of labour. The impartial market, or emotional, and biased humans? I vote for the market. Let's say I was a miner. Why is my productive labour worth less than the labour of a professional athlete? The market values the labour of professional athletes in the millions, while the labour of miners is worth very little. Why? Because 20,000 people wouldn't pay $50 to watch me take a pickaxe to a rock for a couple hours. There are billions of people who could do my job as a miner, but only a few thousand who can be the best athletes in the world. And who is to say that professional athletes are less valuable than miners? Watching sports and other entertainment provides a means of escapism that could possibly enhance productivity. What kind of world would we live in if entertainers were compensated the same as the rest of us? Water cooler talk would be about that great Little Mosque on the Prairie episode last night. People make choices, choices about entertainment, products and services to use, etc. The aggregate effect of these choices distributes wealth in an impartial manner. If you want government to dictate your life, take some mandarin lessons and move to China: http://www.hawkesburygazette.com.au/news/world/world/general/reality-check-for-tv-in-china/2337562.aspx Many of the "fat cats" in China are in government. Just the way you lefties want it.

Haha that is exactly what I thought when I read that..

Basically yes. Which is why government DB pension plans are so ludicrous. Putting all the investment risk on our children. As for being a realist.. I won't touch that other than to say you are buying into too much hippy/greenpeace propaganda. I do think the spa trip is over for the developed world for now. New generations will have to give up the 35-40hr work week dream, while the Chinese are working 12hr days for 7 days a week. It's a shame the new generations will also be burdened by paying for welfare cases, underfunded government pension plans, and interest for all the money borrowed by their parents and grandparents' hippy entitlement movement generation.

How exactly were people "hard sold" into borrowing hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy a house? Are you referring to the misguided lefty idealistic legislation to promote home ownership among the lower class?

Wow, it's like talking to a brick wall... It's funny that you're arguing that investment funds don't produce anything when discussing a clip of Dragon's Den. Do you not watch Dragon's Den? They allocate capital to the best ideas which they expect to provide the best return. Hundreds of people have seen their businesses saved and dreams come true by Kevin O'Leary investing in their ideas on Dragon's Den. Investment funds produce EVERYTHING. They are owners or represent the owners of every company in every industry. Not only that, but they are contracted by governments and pension plans to manage retirement savings as well.

Dear god... what a ludicrous argument.