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Really? There is no laws against aborting at certain stage of pregnancy (say at the end)?

You are denying the obvious. So men and women are equal in strength and can physically defend themselves equally? I do believe that women make up for lack of physical strength in brains though as I find my female students smarter and more hard working and generally speaking on average doing better not to mention a teenage girl again generally speaking is more mature than a teenage boy.

I think it is aborting a fetus which is not illegal in Canada. Can a 9 month old pregnant woman abort legally?

The severity of the crime against defenseless and nature of crime (rape against women and children causing lifetime suffering or murder of defenseless) justifies more severe punishment. As bad as it is a guy shot dead at a corner grocery store is not as severe when a child or a women is molested over years or murdered.

I know mistakes were made in the PAST but with the advanced technology (you name DNA as one example) I very much doubt that similar mistakes will be made in future.

I thought the law say beyond reasonable doubt for these cases? Though i admit I am no lawyer. That was what I meant when I said in proven cases. Like Paul Bernardo who actually video taped his crimes!!. You soft hearted lefties you let them go on living and enjoy eating and all that comes with life while their victims suffered pain and death and had no one to defend them while they were being violently raped and murdered.

I said proven cases.... Think of ALL those future victims (innocent, defenseless children women, elderly) you will be saving. Many many more for each POSSIBLE wrongful conviction. We may say and compromise (though not my preference) that capital punishment for a Second crime to eliminate all likelihood of a wrongful conviction first time.

Violent crimes against the innocent and defenseless are Capital crimes and they deserve an appropriate punishment. The intention is of course a proportionate punishment and second to take away the chance for REPEAT offense and hence saving the lives of thousands (in Canada alone) or many millions worldwide who will for sure (based on existing statistics a large percentage of violent sex offender commit the crime again) fall victims to the beasts unless he is sent to hell before he repeats his violent crime against a new victim.. To those who may oppose Capital punishment then Where were you or the damn lawyer and the judge when the sub-human bastard was raping and murdering an innocent defenseless woman or a child. Now (that is if he is caught and not released on technicality) he wears a tie and dress nicely to look like human whereas beneath that apparent human body is a beast. A sub-human bastard because A HUMAN DOES NOT MURDER AND RAPE DEFENSELESS INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN. HE IS A SUB-HUMAN and must be sent to like a dog with a rabies who attacks and bites people or a bear or wild animal. The fact that he walks on two legs does NOT make him a human but his behavior does. For those who oppose a reminder that existing Statistics show that many who go to prison in this unjust system for rape and/or murder of women and children THEY DO IT AGAIN. Are you more concerned about saving the life of a rapist and murderer OR you care more about HIS FUTURE Victims. Save the innocent (Future) victims by sending the guilty one to hell where he belongs the very first time that he commits a PROVEN crime because statistics show that there is a good chance he may take more victims once released or escapes. SO IF YOU OPPOSE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT THEN YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS NEXT VICTIM'S DEATH or RAPE. Women and children and elderly are deemed more vulnerable not more valuable because generally speaking they are physically weaker and hence defenseless (I say same for elderly) so any crime against them is more cowardly and deserves worse punishment. Same true for children (but you didn't question about children). IS THERE A POLITICIAN WITH BALLS OUT THERE??? BRING BACK THE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT if you are. ps - I wanted to make it a poll I didn't know how to!!!! Moderators please.

You are one of those who sees just punishment as murder. Where were you and those who oppose capital punishment and the damn lawyer and the judge when the sub-human bastard was raping and murdering an innocent defenseless woman or a child. Now (that is if he is caught and not released on technicality) he wears a tie and dress nicely to look like human whereas beneath that apparent human body is a beast. A sub-human bastard because A HUMAN DOES NOT MURDER AND RAPE DEFENSELESS INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN. HE IS A SUB-HUMAN and must be sent to like a dog with a rabies who attacks and bites people or a bear or wild animal. The fact that he walks on two legs does NOT make him a human but his behavior does. Statistics show that many who go to prison in this unjust system for rape and/or murder of women and children THEY DO IT AGAIN. Are you more concerned about saving the life of a rapist and murderer OR you care more about HIS FUTURE Victims. Save the innocent (Future) victims by sending the guilty one to hell where he belongs the very first time that he commits a PROVEN crime because statistics show that there is a good chance he may take more victims once released or escapes. SO IF YOU OPPOSE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT THEN YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS NEXT VICTIM'S DEATH or RAPE. Yes women are deemed more vulnerable not more valuable because generally speaking they are physically weaker and hence defenseless (I say same for elderly) so any crime against them is more cowardly and deserves worse punishment. Same true for children (but you didn't question about children). I am astonished that you have to ask the obvious!!!!! IS THERE A POLITICIAN WITH BALLS OUT THERE??? BRING BACK THE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT if you are.

I listed what values are you simply not listening. Capital punishment which I firmly believe for those who commit crimes against women and children and terrorist related crimes are electric chair. It is very different with barbaric stoning to death.

Not so because the Yes side is still ahead. That said I wouldn't call the No side as progressive rather not informed of the facts on how things are in Europe these days as a result of massive unscreened North African and Middle Eastern immigration.

What is wrong with the NO side??? It surprises me that though an expected start (we had 6 yes votes and just one No vote at the beginning) but now only slightly more citizens vote for a yes to screening out based on values!!!!!!. What is wrong with the citizens??? You wish to have those as Canadian citizens who force their daughters (likely Canadian born) to wear hejab or like the Afghan trash father who killed her daughters for having boyfriends or who walk in swimming pools and called the ladies in the pool as whores or assault women and girls in street parties like in Germany or bans alcohol or bomb theaters and bars and strip clubs because they are against their beliefs??? What s wrong with you???????.

But your goal and what you are promoting is not to stop flooding Canada with immigrants but rather only accept immigrants from white countries and as I recall you named those countries as Britain, US, Australia and stop those from China, Africa, Middle East, Asia. What is funny is that you are me when I was in my teens and 20's and a few of my family still believe in that. I used to believe that only white people should be around and used to regard them as the better race. Then I started meeting some people from other races also mixed up more with so called white people. Then I realized that they all have their goods and bads. Nobody or no race is perfect. You may be right if you say certain people with certain beliefs or culture harmful to Canada and Canadian values should be banned but you never be right if you say certain people from certain regions or race should be banned because there are both good and bad among them and so are among whites.

Now that you mention I was called that too. There is or was a poster called Rue who called me first a Muslim fanatic!!!!! and then in Israel thread called me (and anyone else who condemned criminal actions of Israeli government and military against civilians) as Anti-Semitic!!!!!.

These are values most Canadians (not all) believe in and not respected by most (not all) in certain regions (middle east, asia, south America, Africa) so I say they are Canadians values:

No it i monstrous because these damn people had no where to go and were dying or in danger and German people welcomed them with open arms and housed and fed them and that was how they paid back the generosity by assaulting defenseless innocent girls who opened the door on them. German police must locate those responsible and deport them back to the war zone they don't deserve it.

The German incident on New year's Eve angered me a lot and somehow I can believe that there were mostly committed by Middle Eastern newcomers. I have seen with my own eyes Lebanese young men going into crowded bars and purposely touching women. It is part of their Middle Eastern culture for most but not all and I think that segregation of sexes is responsible for this behavior as I think they didn't have the courage or experience to approach a girl nicely and ask her for dance.. Btw, they were Christian Lebanese not muslims. And yes there were a few more Lebanese who were not doing this. Do you ban everyone from Lebanon or Middle East. Not fair to those who behave civilized.

The reactionary forces at play again. You mean Canada should go back to this? Shame. Canada has a less than stellar record historically when it comes to immigration policy, having rejected or excluded Indians, Chinese, Jews and Blacks during various periods over the past century.

It is not racism if we screen based on values only. It will be racism if we screen based on skin color or regions as suggested in another thread by a few people.

Absolutely yes. Seeing what is happening now in Europe (Germany and France in particular) we must avoid these civil disturbances in this peaceful beautiful land and keep out those who do not believe in values which included respect for human rights, respect for women's right, equality regardless of gender, race, skin color, religions, freedom of view and expression, care for neighbor and democracy. We must refuse those who wish to disturb any or all of above values or wish to change our way of life.

I can't believe how some people throwing baseless accusations without knowing anything about the poster. I have been called Muslim fanatic, ISIS supporter, Iran supporter, internationalist communist, Marxist and now anti-Muslim!!!! God knows what would be next!!!!!

No they should adopt because they have chosen to come here full knowing we do not segregate.

Geez among your over 35000 posts you expect me to find that single post!!!!!!. And you didn't suggest that I am an ISIS supporter but you asked me if I am an ISIS supporter which means you suspected I am!!!!!.Unless you wished to insult me. I never expressed any problem with Jews and I don't think that many of immigrants have any problem with Jews either but I did post my opposition to some actions taken by Israeli government and Israeli military against innocent defenseless women and children in the past. At the same time expressed my support for Israeli people and their right to exit expressing my understanding that this Jewish nation is surrounded by very hostile and violent people and have the right to defend themselves but not at the cost of killing defenseless women and children. Does this make me an ISIS supporter??

Talking about English comprehension this comes from a guy who after many of my posts fiercely opposing religious fanatism and my posts against ISIS and my thread calling on Trudeau to save Yazidi girls entrapped by ISIS and fierce opposition to forced hejab asked me a couple of months ago if I am an ISIS supporter!!!!!! Likely in a couple of months he will ask me if I support Neo Nazis and white supremacists!!!! SO much for your English comprehension and logic.

Hejab is a symbol of oppression not in another galaxy but on this planet and here in Canada too where under family pressure many have to wear this symbol of oppression. As for your statement that I want to forcefully remove the hejab from women you are as much a liar as your right wing bawdiest!!!!y.