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I definitely look forward to see bills C-51 and C-36 reversed hopefully sooner than later.

I tell you a reversal. How about the smiling friendly face of Justin Trudeau walking into the Press room and answering journalists with respect in contrast to arrogant frown face of Harper avoiding journalists or treating them (and public servants) with utter disrespect and ruling with iron fist? This got to count for a reversal. I will never vote for the conservative party no matter what (or as long as these wolves in sheep's closing calling themselves progressive conservatives) are there.

Trudeau is not responsible for the past mistakes. He is going to bring a good government open and transparent and people's government. Btw I really don't think we have a debt crisis. They have been saying this for a long time and the good side of this is that the interest rates will have to stay down and so will the mortgage rates but if they suddenly go up then yes we may have a crisis.

If you don't know my posting history then you haven't been around lately. No I wasn't sarcastic and there is nothing funny about my post.

I was referring to THIS liberal party of Canada headed by Trudeau and is doing all which is right for the country and the nation. I didn't vote for the Liberal party when Turner was the leader (I am strong supporter of free trade) and I voted for Mulroney which was a progressive conservative. As I have said in the past the former Reform party members from Alberta took over the progressive conservative party (I refer to them as wolves in sheep's clothing) and turn it into a very regressive secretive corrupt party with UnCanadian values.

Canada has become the best democracy NOW. Did you see our Prime minister walking into the crowd yesterday shaking hands and offering cookies? Where in the world can a leader so freely walk among the people? Most hide in bullet proof cars and others behind the armed guards. As for the Cabinet, it is the best and most capable cabinet handpicked by the best Prime Minister. And a clear case of equality representing true Canadian values in contrast to UnCanadian values Harper and his regime stood for. Equal number of Women (Yeah!!!!) and racially and ethnically diverse (a thorn in the eyes of the few racists in this country). THIS LIBERAL GOVERNMENT IS A PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE RUN BY THE PEOPLE AND WHO WORKS FOR PEOPLE. Long Live Canada Long Live Government of Canada Long Live Liberal Party of Canada.

If you were in politics in early 90's you would remember it was Bush and Clinton for US presidency and bush was seeking re-election glorying how great and militarily strong America is and how America is respected in the world, etc. (as compare to the weak Carter presidency) under Reagan and him but the US economy was in a mess as it was hit by a recession and Bush never mentioned the economy of course was his weak point so Clinton said "It is the Economy you stupid" and he won the presidency. Now I remember reading that as per last days of Harper's campaign he was glorifying how great the economy is under his reign (same staff you mentioned in the post like balance budget and low taxes, .....) and I remember hearing or reading I think it was Globe and Mail who said "It is NOT the economy you stupid" apparently addressed to Harper or his campaign managers!!!!. Yes it was about Canadian values he undermined, about Harper's secretive dictatorial rule, about his undemocratic rule. About his fear mongering and divisive policies. About setting Canadians against each other using the race and religion. It was about corruptions it was about scandals one after another. About 9 years of UnCanadian values taken by his regime. About destroying democracy in Canada. You wish to know what needs to be unscrewed (what Harper regime screwed up) read the original post. The poster has done a great job in listing the Harper regime's harms in his 9 year reign.

Not sure really. Bad Johns can easily change cell phone number and names and especially with Bill C-36 they all (bad or good) very likely refuse to provide verifiable personal information so not so. They cannot keep track of bad Johns post bill C-36 (one of many reasons why bill C-36 jeopardizes the safety of sex workers). The driver is NOT with the sex worker and the John but outside at best on nearby streets but in most cases they are driving around the city having several workers in their cars dropping them off and picking them up all the time far away from where the sex worker is, so again not so. Sex workers having bosses was and still is illegal (for bosses not sex workers) and rightly so. Making profit of prostitution (other than workers) is criminal now and should be. But I agree brothels is better option than streets and I think they should remain legal post C-36 but not pimping or bad Johns belong to jail.

Sorry not so. How did you come with this conclusion that escorts have considerable control over who they meet and where?? Those who are independent escorts maybe (and many have pimps so many of them have no say really even their pimps advertise their services without them knowing) and many of those who work for agencies they have no idea who the agency will send them so little choice as who they meet and as for where, I don't think so either. If they have to see their clients at the clients' homes or run down hotels then it can be anywhere even unsafe places and if their own place then the pimp or agency may set up a place for them. Wish what you say was true. Excuse me to all of you guys. Brothels are legal as per C-36. Please STOP misinformation and lets share some facts. It was BEFORE C-36 that brothels were illegal but after December 2014 being in a bawdy house is not illegal anymore (thanks to SCC ruling in 2013). It is now paying for sex (not selling sex) which is illegal. I explained in my posts before in great details as why this new laws jeopardize the safety of sex workers and they (escorts, masseuses, non-club dancers, street prostitutes) are citizens of this country and entitled to be protected by the government. Trudeau, Mulcair and May and their parties opposed the bill (C-36) for same reasons as they were concerned about its effectiveness and how harmful it maybe to sex workers. They Cared (unlike the conservative government) and now that the Liberal party is in government it is time to (maybe not repeal it completely) to change it or regulate and/or decriminalize prostitution (I am no expert as what would be best laws for best protection of citizens).

Do you always use the US data and worse than that, THE 1979 DATA to justify the allegation you make??? They were little or no on-line escorts then and a high percentage of sex workers were street prostitutes in 1979. For God's sake stop stigmatizing sex workers. These are the tactics that the former regime and its injustice minister used to force Bill C-36 in spite of widespread opposition from sex workers and the opposition parties. On the second link yes I believe that about street prostitutes but I think it fell on deaf ears when I said again and again that they are less than 10% of sex workers. Escorts, Masseuses, nude dancers, are not any more drug addicts than the non-sex worker population.

As of December 2014 paying for sex is illegal. In fact criminal up to 5 years in jail (bill C-36 and I am talking about consensual sex between adults. There are cases where on side is force or there is underage involved but those cases are not consensual sex between adults what what is now illegal is the latter. I have no issue with that but sex workers are saying that their safety and even lives are in danger as a result and wish to abolish that. Trudeau opposed when the former government was trying to pass this into law so lets see what he is going to do about it when he is in government.

There has been a few well publicized and sad cases of horrible rapes in India but saying that it is widespread is a clear exaggeration. EXCUSE ME!!!! Iran's islamic government has organized brothels!!!!!!.It is easy to make enormously false statement and score some points in the minds of uninformed but it is cheap. Yes I know it is against the law but what I listed is happening as we speak. So you are saying in India and Egypt rape is legal??? As I said there are good and bad sides to any culture and none is perfect each have their own good and evil and only different to each other not superior.

And what makes your culture (which I take it by your culture you mean western culture) superior to any other?? Yes there are plenty of good things about western cultures a few you mentioned like freedom of expression, women's rights, gay's rights and many others but what about the other side like the bad side like drugs, teenage pregnancy, prostitution and pimping, child abuse, rapes and sexual assaults, incest, drunkenness, wide spread wife and spouse abuse .Yes these are part of western culture too. Eastern culture has some good side too like warmth, hospitality, strong family attachment, sacrifices, friendship but yest lacking some good western items too like women's rights. No culture is superior to another it is just that one culture is DIFFERENT to another that is all. None better or worse than other. No culture is perfect including western culture and in my view it is an indication of arrogance or ignorance to think that one is superior to other.

Hear hear. Well stated comments.

You are making false statements. As an example (just one) I attacked Harper regime calling them hypnotics when they signed a 20 billion dollar deal with Saudi Arabia (last time I checked it was a Muslim country) and YOU were the one who defended the action saying that Canada needs the business and at the same time you were strongly advocating sanctions to remain on Iran. Remember? I am aware that both Arabs and jews are of Semitic race but saying that they look alike or not possible to distinguish them from each other by looks is total exaggeration. I only responded to your attack on that particular occasion. You called me wiping old woman and I responded that you are even worse (and people have exchanged much harsher words than this on this board without being suspended or even a warning) but you made the first move to attack me and somehow I was the one who got suspended for a week!!!!!!!!!. I wonder if this was really the reason? (which officially was the reason)!!.

That is typical of Zionists that every time anyone dares to criticize state of Israel for their brutality then immediately they are accused of being anti jew. This is their weapon to silent critics and some even use the Holocaust happened 70 years ago to justify Israel's brutality against innocent women and children. To you based on your comments above my understanding is that a brown life does not worth much to cry about as long as it is not a white life?

Funny profound ignorance, sheer raw ignorance and bigotry were exact same words that fit well with the extreme right anti-Iran, anti-Muslim, anti brown people.

The bills (C-51, C-36, .....) are in Federal jurisdictions. The past federal regime imposed them and the newly elected majority government can repeal them. Nothing to do with what provinces want as they had no say when they were forced down our throats.

Hear hear.

I have met many Iranians in my life. They are cool and very proud Aryan nation even those who I met (those in exile). Highly educated, very nationalistic and very open minded more so than many other nationals I have met also in my life (in universities, work places, while travelling). Any one who may call their country scummy better run for his life. Canada should maintain relations with Israel too but Canada must not be slaved to Israeli policies or unconditionally support the brutal actions of state of Israel as the former regime in Canada did when Harper was in power Thanks God sucking up to ​Israel days is over when Canadians voted overwhelmingly to end Harper regime.

Yes it appears that this guy can get away with just about everything around here and by the way the only scummy country is the state of Israel and its murderous regime who indiscriminately murders defenseless innocent women and children. And Iran is no little it is a major regional power and soon to be a superpower and will teach these guys a lesson they will never forget. As for the thread Trudeau has said it will re-establish relations with Iran. Even Britain has now embassy in Tehran and vice versa. Engagement is best to bring about democratic changes as the US realized eventually and support of democratic forces in Iran is essential rather than the stupid policy of closing the doors which the former regime in Canada took. Canada should maintain relations with Israel based on equality and mutual respect but not to become slave to Israeli government or a BLIND supporter of its brutal actions as Harper regime did.

I don't know much about sex industry but I see that there are some people even worse than me lacking knowledge so just to clarify there are different categories of sex workers. Escorts, mostly high class sex workers and working on line some having guards and drivers regretfully some with pimps too. They are coming from same category of life as any other female in this country. Some of them work for agencies and some are independents. Those with agencies receive room and protection in exchange for large portion of their income. Masseuses - Although officially they provide massage but most of them provide sex or sexual activities as well and they work in massage parlous and a minority work out of private houses or condos. Nude dancers mostly classified as entertainers rather than sex workers.. Street walkers - work on streets and were the target of LE before bill C-36. They are mostly drug addicts and with pimps and come from abusive families or run away. Bill C-36 endangers all above categories for the reasons I explained in details in my previous posts (except maybe nude dancers if they remain as club dancers only). The Harper regime and his injustice minister forced this bill abusing their majority in a manipulative manner that they usually did everything since they took over this country and the reason was political gains that is to satisfy their core religious support without any consideration for the safety of tens of thousands of the citizens. Now that we have a democratic caring government of Justin Trudeau this bill must be repealed and replaced by another bill which would decriminalize the industry and regulate prostitution (the New Zealand model is favored by those in industry) in order to protect our fellow citizens.

Please don't classify people as normal and abnormal based on the job they are doing or anything else. And what kind of evidence would you like me to provide you with and how would I know about numbers other than what I have read (plenty of material were available during and after SCC struck down the old laws). Estimates say there are about 50 to 100,000 sex workers in Canada (not including many more nude dancers who are actually classified as entertainers and not not sex workers). About 10% are street walkers and almost all are drug addicts, runaways or abused in childhood. The rest come from any other category of people and life that non-sex workers come from like students, single mothers, divorced, unemployed, underemployed. I am not encouraging or advocating prostitution. Contrary I think we should have laws to regulate it as it is the oldest profession and will NEVER be eradicated as one stupid justice minister said lately. So lets make it safe for everyone especially vulnerable sex workers. Also I hate the idea if anyone saying that because some may be drug addicts or abused then they have no rights or should not be protected, Every citizen in this country has equal rights and it is the responsibility of a democratic government to protect them. I always support the weak and underdog in my life and I continue to advocate laws that would make sex workers safe. Here is a recent article with many related statistics if you are interested: http://o.canada.com/news/national/most-sex-workers-in-canada-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-national-study-finds

If someone is given a few months to live and is assured that he or she will die soon and the rest would be with severe pain what the hell the government has to say about it if he or she decides to terminate the pain and suffering??? Get the damn government out of my personal life and decisions.

Sir with all due respect and for your information escorts do work in what law defines as brothels. A brothel is a place where clients of sex worker(s) visit on a regular basis. A condo in a high class building or a house in nice neighborhood or a room in a 5 star hotel also qualifies as brothel or bawdy house. Escorts would be able to work in a group and protect each other and to screen out bad clients (if C-36 is repealed otherwise clients would refuse to provide personal info or references) or report violent or abusive ones to law enforcement. Also Johns would be careful because workers would know their identity post C-36. Escorts would also benefit a lot too if C-36 repealed. The forced and underage also exists among escorts which can be rescued by clients post C-36 if they come across one. Escorts also have to see clients they don't wish or provide services they don't want because the business is driven underground. Right now ESCORTS ARE AT RISK INDEED because of C-36 contrary to your post, Here we are talking about sex workers not only about street walkers who constitute less of 10% of sex workers but your posts seem to concentrate on them undermining the harm that C-36 can cause to remaining 90% of sex workers..