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Fight the Boycott of Israel
CITIZEN_2015 replied to southerncomfort's topic in The Rest of the World
Funny that marcus calls me Israel supporter and you call me Arab talking and I am just stating the facts. You need to learn your history how after second world war and defeat of Nazi Germany Jews in Europe were brought in from Europe (NOT born in Palestine) to Palestine and at the time Palestine was under the British rule and how Jewish refugees were settled in Palestinian lands and later as hundreds of thousands were brought in and form a sizable population then declared the state of Israel and started terrorizing Palestinians so that they leave Palestine (their homeland) out of the fear of their lives (Imagine Syrian refugees do this to you!!!). Some terrorist groups murdering innocent women and children were headed or led by a future Prime minister of the state of Israel (Begin). Israel regime has been very aggressive against Palestinian people since then and frequently and often attacking defenseless Palestinian civilian including women and children with heavy artillery and tanks and helicopters killing many defenseless people. History is full of atrocities committed by the state of Israel and its military and a few uneducated or fanatic or Zionist statements like what is quoted above is not going to re-write the history. -
Fight the Boycott of Israel
CITIZEN_2015 replied to southerncomfort's topic in The Rest of the World
Do not try to undermine or hide the truth by carefully chosen words (like corrupt or incompetence) for those regimes who hate Israel. They are Bloodthirsty and murderous governments in other places is the fact who shoot their own people in the back and there are plenty of videos about that too. So I am asking you again. What do you think these people would do to Israeli civilians if they occupy Israel when they shoot their own defenseless women and children and youth in the back for simply a protest or demonstration? -
Fight the Boycott of Israel
CITIZEN_2015 replied to southerncomfort's topic in The Rest of the World
That is not true. Imagine you are at your home and some guests (under police protection being the British imperialistic power at the time) enter your home as guests and then terrorize you and kick you out and take over your home. Will you fight back or watch the occupation? If you fight back against take over will it be starting the fight or would you say those who came and took over your home started the war? Enough with hate already. Lets have a peaceful solution and end atrocities by both sides so that both Israelis and Palestinians have a land to live in peace. -
Fight the Boycott of Israel
CITIZEN_2015 replied to southerncomfort's topic in The Rest of the World
In my statement I never defended the Israeli government or its actions against Palestinians. In fact as I recall I have posted some very critical comments against the Israeli regime and it military against defenseless civilians in the past as I am sure you recall reading them. What I said was the fact. That in 1945, and again in 1967 Israel went to war against armies (not defenseless civilians) of Egypt (equipped with advanced Russian hardware) and Jordan (British and American hardware) and Syria )Russian hardware) and defeated all three in 6 days and has survived decades now and those who resisted occupations against so many armies were Israelis not Americans. . In a similar scenario the Iraqi Arabs invaded non-Arab Iran. They had the support from all the world including billions from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and many thousands of most advanced military hardware from Russia and France and intelligence from US. They too were defeated and forced to withdraw from Iranian soil by Iranian soldiers who fought with light weaponry against fully armed with most advanced weapons Iraqi invaders. So your statement that Israel would be nothing without Western support is baseless as I said it were Israelis who fought the war and if you say it was military hardware or money then Arabs had it too. That is oil money and Russian and French support In other statements before I have reminded you that those people (Israeli haters) who shoot their own defenseless people in the back what do you expect them to do if they ever occupy Israeli towns and cities? You evaded a response because you know what they would do. I am looking at both sides not just one side of the conflict. Both have some rights and both have committed crimes against defenseless people (some against their own people). However, if ever the day comes that Arabs occupy Israeli land then bloodshed would be far far worse than what it is now happening in Arab lands under occupation. They (both sides) must stop the war and hatred and make a peace. It is enough bloodshed already. -
Fight the Boycott of Israel
CITIZEN_2015 replied to southerncomfort's topic in The Rest of the World
Oh really? And what about the Arabs with hundreds of billions of dollars of easy oil money every year, and most advanced Russian and French military hardware and population of over half a billion could not defeat or even resist a nation of less than a few million. It is not the military hardware (or money) that counts it is the brain who drives it. -
No wrong again. The unemployment rate is percent of Canadian adults (which is much less than 37 million which is the entire population including almost 12 million children so it is out of 25 million) seeking jobs and not finding not the whole population and that includes those on welfare too. Immigration level should be reduced to more reasonable levels of about 150 to 200 thousand and selected from those who are adopted or easily adoptable to Canadian values (like more from Western and Eastern Europe or South America but also those in other regions who are already adopted to these values) and can contribute positively to Canada with their education or assets. So I am too against both Liberal and Conservation immigration policies.
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Latest by UN. Hundreds killed, thousands arrested by Iran's islamic regime. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/06/at-least-7000-people-reportedly-arrested-in-iran-protests-says-un “We have also received footage which appears to show security forces shooting unarmed demonstrators from behind while they were running away, and shooting others directly in the face and vital organs – in other words shooting to kill,” Bachelet said. Additional video material shows “armed members of security forces shooting from the roof of a justice department building” in the city of Javanrud, west of Tehran in Kermanshah province, as well as gunfire from helicopters in Sadra, in Fars province. And Europeans are still negotiating and dealing with this murderous regime. Shame on European leaders. Shame!!!!.
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Iran regime may have killed over 1000 including over a dozen children: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-protests-usa/u-s-says-iran-may-have-killed-more-than-1000-in-recent-protests-idUSKBN1Y926W And the world still remains silent and Europeans continue to prostitute themselves to murderous regime. Maybe Except Trump Administration: https://globalnews.ca/news/6259905/iran-protests-deaths-trump-administration/
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Lie over lie is not a damage control making it even worse. What you said was (not that it is NOW at 5%) but always has been for decades!!!!!!
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This is a LIE and discredits you and the rest of your post (and in my view all your other posts too) which I didn't even bother to read because it starts with a big lie and false statistics. Canada Unemployment Rate GET THIS DATA MAX 1Y 5Y 10Y bar line area spline areaspline column APPLY Canada's unemployment rate was at 12% in 1982 and remained in double digits till mid 80's then it fell to around 8 to 9% for the rest of 80's and went up again to double digits in the 90's and remained there for years and gradually came down to 8% by the end of 90's (in fact Conservative Prime Minister Kim Campbell said in 1993 election campaign that Canadian must accept high unemployment till the end of the century as why she was kicked out), https://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/no-new-jobs-kim-campbell-promises Unemployment came down later under Liberal government in mid to late 90's but still was around 7 to 8 percent for most of this century and only past few years have come down to historic low at around 5%. When you lie at least be careful to say something that statistics are not available or memories have faded.
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The post is directed at me and is a very insulting post (I edited idiotic post with insulting post) because I cited the good economy and liberal minded governing (not legislating people's lives like Bills that conservatives imposed in a manipulative manner) as the main reason for my support for liberals and did not say a single word or even remotely indicated my liberal support for their alleged support for any religion like 10th century islamic religion. In fact I have clearly indicated in my many posts on immigration that Canada needs to become a lot more selective on immigrants and denying immigration to those who do not respect Canadian values the most important of which is respect for women and respect and believe in equality of religions and races and Canadian values. Of course Christianity was here long before islamic religion and Christianity is the main religion In Canada and hopefully will remain so but the way you say it (try to remember while quoting my post) is very offensive like I denying these clear facts or worse like I am supporting or advocating bringing in people in to undermined our values of equality (which likely you are lacking from your posts) and respect for women. Very offensive. It also takes an intelligent mind to realize that my support for Liberals does not mean I support everything they do and that extends to my lack of support for their immigration policy.
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Historically low unemployment. low inflation and interest rate, growing economy, and most importantly a non-conservative government.
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Iran regime's brutality is not limited to its borders. The regime brutalize dissident citizens abroad and their families at home. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/iran-is-brutally-suppressing-popular-dissent-the-world-is-watching/2019/12/03/2c07f568-1617-11ea-8406-df3c54b3253e_story.html https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2019/11/we-know-where-you-live-iran-goes-after-foreign-based-reporters/
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What I hate most about conservatives is That they are conservative. That they are on the side of religious right. That they try to legislate citizen's lives. We don't need a damn religious republic here.
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What can the West do to help Iranians?
CITIZEN_2015 replied to marcus's topic in The Rest of the World
Trump administration may help Iranian people to liberate themselves and their country. Aides to President Donald Trump are weighing imposing new sanctions on Iranian officials implicated in human rights abuses, relying in part on intelligence gleaned from some 36,000 pictures, videos and other tips sent in by Iranians caught up in the regime’s recent crackdown on mass protests. The Trump administration is also exploring new ways to help Iranians evade internet blackouts imposed by the regime in Tehran, people familiar with the plans said. It further is expected to dial up its own information campaign against Iran in the coming days, including a potential speech on Iran by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. “The United States of America supports the brave people of Iran who are protesting for their FREEDOM. We have under the Trump Administration, and always will!” the U.S. president tweeted Tuesday from London, where he’s attending a NATO gathering. Iran nation will forgive the United States for its cowardly staged military coup in 1953 which toppled the democratically elected government of Dr. Mossadegh if now the US help Iranians enough to topple this bloodthirsty murderous regime which is destroying them and their homeland. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/03/donald-trump-sanctions-iran-074961 -
An article by Jason Rezaian an Iranian American Citizen who was taken hostage by the regime and tortured by regime thugs for many days The regime in Iran may have succeeded — at least for the time being — in crushing the extraordinary spate of public protests that began on Nov. 16. But the country’s rulers and security forces managed to achieve this result only through the brazen application of force against their fellow citizens. Amnesty International says at least 208 people have been killed, with the actual death toll potentially much higher.The events of the past two weeks have driven home an important lesson: The people of Iran have rediscovered their sense of agency — and no amount of state-administered violence will make them forget it. The government is now restoring Internet service after a week-long shutdown that made it extremely difficult for outside observers to have a full picture of what was going on. What’s clear, though, is that these protests were deadlier than previous waves of unrest — including the one in 2009, which followed a fraudulent presidential election, or those in late 2017 and early 2018, which were sparked by the worsening economic situation. The recent backlash was the clearest combination of an economic and political uprising we’ve seen to date. More and more Iranians feel as though they have little to lose; we saw that again and again in the grainy images of bravery and desperation that made it to the outside world. This is a bad sign for the long-term viability of the Islamic republic. The regime can now have few illusions about the degree of popular support it enjoys among the population. It has long tried to compensate through a combination of subsidies and intimidation. There are plenty of people outside of Iran, including within the U.S. government, salivating over what they see as the imminent demise of the Islamic republic. What they have failed to do so far, though, is offer any credible plans about what comes next. This is because they are out of touch and disconnected. That’s not their fault. They aren’t there. Various overseas groups — including the MEK, a reviled exile group that was long on the State Department’s terror list, and some backers of the last shah’s son — have been pushing claims that they’ve helped to establish an organized and representative opposition movement inside Iran that connects diaspora figures with protesters on the ground. Such assertions aren’t just disingenuous, they’re downright dangerous as they encourage people to risk their lives in the streets while having providing nothing as protection or actual support. The reality is simple: The protests inside Iran were started by ordinary Iranians. They were the ones who put their lives on the line (and correspondingly bore the brunt of the violence). No one led them in this show of discontent — especially no one from the outside. It’s ironic that members of the Iranian diaspora would choose to make claims to the contrary. In so doing, they are actually mimicking the regime, which likes to insist that protesters are just taking orders from foreign puppeteers. Nonsense. Iran’s ultimate fate will be decided by the Iranians who live in the country — and a key constituency, for better or worse, will be those who currently hold the guns. The turning point in nearly every revolutionary uprising comes when members of the security forces or the military finally decide they’re no longer willing to kill their own compatriots for the sake of the regime that employs them. Unfortunately, we are not seeing that yet. While there is always some anecdotal evidence of defections from the Revolutionary Guard Corps, so far we see few signs that significant numbers of the regime’s armed defenders are taking the side of the protesters. In fact, the opposite is true: Security forces did as they were told and gunned down hundreds of unarmed people. Organization is the advantage that the authorities in Iran have always held over their opponents. That’s been the case in every previous round of protest in the Islamic republic’s 40-year history thus far. Not only did they have a plan for putting down protests, they had one for shutting up the families of their victims as well. We’re hearing from many sources that officials are forcing the families of those killed to pay for recovering the bodies for burial. The government is also forcing survivors to say that the victims were regime loyalists killed by protesters. All this tells you everything you need to know about the brutality of the regime. But it also tells you that the government is far from willing to give up. The intricacy of such plans, though, ignores a simple truth of 21st century life: Facts can’t be as easily wiped from the historical record as they may have been in the past. They can be obscured, and they can be manipulated, but they can’t be hidden for good. It won’t be long before we see another round of protests, perhaps even bloodier than this one. Whether you’re on its side or fighting against it, the current Iranian regime has never valued human life. That’s because the rulers of the Islamic republic think of “the people” as property. Once again, over the past few weeks the Iranian people have shown they are anything but. Standing up against that old and failed proposition is valiant and should be supported. But in a moment where there is no clear alternative, it’s also incredibly dangerous. Ultimately, whether to take those risks or not is up to the people of Iran. So, too, is deciding on how to govern themselves in the future. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/02/iran-future-change-is-local/
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What can the West do to help Iranians?
CITIZEN_2015 replied to marcus's topic in The Rest of the World
There are the videos posted to social media and aggregated by news sites that show security forces firing on demonstrators. There are statements from leading Iranian opposition figures such as Mir Hossein Mousavi, one of the leaders of the 2009 uprising who has been under house arrest since 2011. There are headlines reading, “With Brutal Crackdown, Iran Is Convulsed by Worst Unrest in 40 Years.” There is the report from Amnesty International saying that at least 208 people have been killed. So it’s puzzling that America’s European allies chose last weekend to announce that six more countries are joining a bartering system, known as Instex, designed to evade the U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil. Belgium, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden announced Saturday they were joining France, Germany and the U.K.. “Do they think we don’t see what is happening in Iran?” asked Alireza Nader, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies who is closely tracking the unrest. “To push Instex at this moment reveals a remarkable lack of attention to human rights. I hope they come to their senses.” https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-02/iran-protests-why-is-europe-bailing-out-the-ruling-regime-now Perhaps Europeans believe the supreme leader has more staying power than the shah did. But if history is any guide, Iranians will not soon forget the violence and torment their regime has inflicted on them. Nor will they forget those foreign powers that offered that regime an economic lifeline. By extending the lifeline of this murderous regime European leaders are directly responsible for any future bloodshed by this regime. Their hands will be stained with the blood of innocent defenseless people. The future leaders of Iran may see it fit to put these European leaders (current leaders of Belgium, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden, France, Germany and the U.K.) on trial in international courts for participating in mass murder of defenseless people. -
What can the West do to help Iranians?
CITIZEN_2015 replied to marcus's topic in The Rest of the World
Shocking videos from Iran emerging smuggled out recently. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/02/opinion/iran-internet-shutdown.html#commentsContainer The West cannot stay silent anymore. Any country who trades with Iran regime will make the leaders of those countries a party to bloodshed in Iran. European and Russian leaders may be hold accountable for the deaths and brutality against Iranian people and maybe prosecuted in international courts by post revolutionary Iran's legitimately elected government. Iran regime must be completely blocked from exporting a drop of oil and if that means complete naval blockade of the regime then let it be. -
Tactics even Nazi Germany did not employ!! Iran islamic regime charges families of victims shot by its thugs money for the bullet that was used to kill them!!!! https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-charges-families-for-bullets-used-to-kill-protesters-609615
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The poor now joins the popular uprising against islamic regime https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/world/middleeast/iran-protests-deaths.html Most of the nationwide unrest seemed concentrated in neighborhoods and cities populated by low-income and working-class families, suggesting this was an uprising born in the historically loyal power base of Iran’s post-revolutionary hierarchy. Altogether, from 180 to 450 people, and possibly more, were killed in four days with at least 2,000 wounded and 7,000 detained, according to international rights organizations, opposition groups and local journalists.
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In City of roses (Shiraz) alone 69 people are said to have been murdered by islamic regime in Shiraz alone while the city was freed for two days. Uprising against the regime also occurred in 100 other cities but the regime refuses to give a figure for the number of innocent lives lost to keep this bloodthirsty regime in power a while more but international agencies estimate in hundreds. Right now people give flowers to security forces and receive bullets in return in their backs. The regime spends on bullets and missiles instead of bread and food for people. Gives away nation's money to prop up murderous regimes like Assad while the nation of Iran is suffering. Regime official stealing funds belong to the people making top official millionaires and billionaires while the nation is suffering and hungry and the regime blames everything on the US!!!!! But the nation shouts "the enemy is right here but they lie and say it is America"!!!! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/01/iran-fuel-protest-crackdowns-revealed-on-social-media Clock is now ticking for the regime. Unlike previous uprisings THIS time it is the poor (the core religious regime supporters) who have joined the revolution to liberate their country and nation from the occupying force. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/analysis/analysis-clock-ticking-against-iran/1660382
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Okay here is more details: Wiki has been very unfair on Pahlavi dynasty and usually Wiki is not accurate. History will judge them but more importantly the nation of Iran especially the young generation has already judged them who under the gun and threat of violence by regime thugs bravely and openly and loudly call the names of Reza Shah (who suppressed the mullahs, asking for his soul to be blessed) and his son the Shah of Iran, the last monarch and demanding the return of the crown Prince to the thrown of Iran. Look at time and location before citing biased WIKI and reaching false conclusions: There was total freedom and equality under Pahlavi dynasty except political freedom and that was understandable in the 60's and 70;s Iran was a third world country and located in the Middle East not Europe Even in Europe at the time half of (Eastern) Europe was under dictatorship, A cold war raging and the soviet puppets trying to infiltrate Iran and take their borders to the warm waters of Persian Gulf. The communists especially the traitor pro-soviet Tudeh party was very active and the black reactionary forces (the mullahs) were seeking power so there had to be some political constraints and political prisoners and lack of political freedom. Iran's social and political standards were not exactly Western Europe to have total political freedom. Even in United Kingdom IRA prisoners were subjected to torture at the time so what did you expect? You expected Pahlavi dynasty grant freedom more than United Kingdom? Nazi Germany and Franco Spain same time or only a couple of decades earlier. But under Pahlavi dynasty there was Total social freedom, equality for women and minorities (religious minorities) and double digit economic growth. These qualities were only enjoyed by Iran in the region while the rest of middle east was under dark ages and total dictatorships. Iran was totally destroyed under Ghajar dynasty before Reza Shah the great (God bless his soul) took over and he started Pahlavi dynasty but Pahlavi dynasty restored and revived Iran in just 50 years bringing it up to Western standard and it would have been a major economic and military power now matching Japan if these apes (the black reactionary forces) had not taken over the planet. May be that was why the Shah was overthrown as his rapid modernization was against the Western interest. My point was that unlike other countries in the region Iran nation is not used to theocracy and hence this nation will not accept this theocracy. Pahlavi dynasty did the job very well. Iran will not remain the planet of the apes for long thanks to 50 years of progressive Pahlavi dynasty during which Iran advanced 1500 years. Iran was a regional economic and military superpower in 1979, having total freedom and equality for women and religious minorities, highly westernized and educated middle class, with no enemies and many friends about to become a major industrial nation. look where it is now. The planet of the apes!!!! So you make your judgement on Pahlavi dynasty.
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No absolutely not. You are very wrong in your analysis proving a total lack of understanding of the situation. The policy of appeasement has been tried for decades again and again by past US presidents and Europe, and they all failed miserably. This regime is non-reformable and only understands the language of force. Removing it is the only way to secure the region and the world from their threats. It has to go away by force. Trading with this brutal regime only extends the life of the regime and consequently the thread of war and instability for the region and the world. In addition it is both morally and legally very wrong. Recognizing this regime is saying yes to murder and torture and oppression. The middle class is already educated and internationally minded but they do not stand a chance against such a brutal regime. This was proven in 2009. The regime is just too brutal and the middle class value their lives and rarely wish to risk live ammunition and torture extensively used by this regime against any opposing voice. The change has to come from the majority growing poor where the basij's families are also among them. For the first time the poor who used to be the core support for the islamic regime poured into streets and demanding the islamic regime to step down both in 2017`2018 and recent 2019 uprising. There are also elements in the regime itself who are beginning to question the brutality used and the extend of corruption within the top elements of this regime, however, their own self interest prevents them from seriously threatening the existence of the regime. In addition almost all islamic clergy have remained silent and said nothing about brutality and corruptions of this regime. With these scenarios in mind I don't see a peaceful change but rather a violent revolution by the growing poor against this corrupt violent islamic regime. For this to happen faster and with less bloodshed sanctions against the regime must continue and tighten up much more. The Europeans and Russians and Chinese are prostituting themselves to the wrong horse. The Americans are backing the right horse that is the Iranian people and the opposition though they have to change the opposition they are supporting from the unpopular MEK to the popular Crown Prince the son of former Shah of Iran. And they have to militarily block even a drop of regime oil is not sold by totally naval blocking the Persian Gulf using their powerful navy. The income from the oil don't go to the poor but regime's corrupt elements and its thugs to suppress the defenseless nation of Iran.
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What can the West do to help Iranians?
CITIZEN_2015 replied to marcus's topic in The Rest of the World
Europeans (Norway this time) continue to prostitute themselves to the mullahs' regime. https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-ambassador-slams-Norway-for-praising-bypass-of-Iran-sanctions-609442 Good fr USA for slamming Norway's ambassador for supporting criminals. In response the US ambassador to Germany said: “Terrible timing - why fund the Iranian regime while its killing the Iranian people and shutting off the internet? You should be standing for human rights not funding the abusers,” tweeted Grenell, the most high-profile US ambassador in Europe. Belgium, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, and Sweden joined on Friday the United Kingdom, France in Germany as partners in INSTEX. Shame on Europe who speak and stand for democracy but sleep with these regimes. Prostitutes have more integrity than these European leaders. At least they choose who they sleep with. -
Should we bring back the death penalty?
CITIZEN_2015 replied to a topic in Federal Politics in Canada
No prison is not enough to keep public safe. We have many cases of repeat offenders. Even murder many times don't get life sentences and not t mention even life sentences go free on parole after serving half the time in many cases. Public safety must come first not to mention that execution for repeat rapists and mass murderers is also acting as a deterrence rather than a tax payer paid hotel prison. For those who may worry about non-guilty cases, note that I am advocating for REPEAT offenders. A rapist for a third time must be very unlucky (or impossible) to be convicted wrongfully three times and a repeat murder a second time.
