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Dear renegade Here is an article you may enjoy reading about how important it is for us to have very good taxation system. As New Orleans reels, editorials demonize tax-funded government. And here is a letter written in response. Perhaps you could reflect on the comments of a successful corporate guru Warren Buffet: Cheers,

Dear Kimmy If Mahar Arar can show Canadians how bad some of the things we are doing are, and things change for the better because of his inquiry, I think Canada is extremely fortunate to have him. Arar has already made a major achievement by this exposure. Achievement comes in many different forms. Cheers,

The NDP is calling for an extension of the public inquiry We are beginning to see the results when we allow our security forces to get out of control. There needs to be some accountability though from our elected politicians over this. Who should take the fall and resign for allowing Canadian citizens to be treated this way?

White House Press Briefing: Angry Reporters Hit McClellan Hard on Hurricane, Ask if Heads Will Roll Tough day at the office Scott! Well at least at the moment the US media is in full court press.

Revealed: Rumsfeld at Padres Ball Game As New Orleans Sank Everyone knew that the Gulf Region was going to be hit with a massive hurricane and where were America's leaders before and after? Where was the president, the vice-president, the secretary of defence, basically all the US administration? On vacations, at ball games, shopping for $1,000. shoes. While their poor citizens perished.

Three-Quarters (73%) of Canadians Say They Don’t Get Enough for Their Taxes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dear Renegade, Let me give you an example of why Canadians like taxes and why they will like them even more if we ever had a natural disaster like what happened in NO. What if for example we have a massive earthquake and the City of Richmond, BC is under water. Who do you think is going to cover the costs of trying to save the people and rebuild the place if the decision is made to do that. Do you really think the corporate suits, who were born with Fraser Institute memberships, are going to come in and bail us out. Of course not. It will be through our taxes that our governments will provide the assistance. and Canadians will be rejoicing that fact. The corporations own the media, and are the media's most important clients as well. And every day, day in, and day out, they pound away on their no taxes mantra. But even with that constant propaganda noise they still can't convince a lot of us to believe them. They even want to control our schools because their brainwashing techniques in the media aren't enough. Try a little experiment. Go do a survey of Canadians like Ipsos-Reid did and ask them if they want the government to get involved to help the people of Richmond in the above scenario. Then ask them if they would be pleased to see that their taxes are at work helping with the rescue efforts. I think you can figure out the answers for yourself. Cheers,

Dear Err Thanks for such an excellent post. Quite enlightening.

I think all parties are very wise to prepare for an election this Fall. The moment the Liberals see themselves in majority government territory PM Martin's pledge to Canadians about 30 days after Gomery will go out the window. Of course there is going to be a preliminary report out this Fall, and Martin may try to suggest that is what he meant when he got down on his hands and knees on national TV and begged Canadians to keep him in power until Gomery released his report.

God's 'Intelligent Design' in the Classroom? Why Not? You know, you have to keep asking yourself, what will those anti-evolutionists come up with next? And here it is. This is the latest rage in America "the so-called “evolution vs. intelligent design controversy.” I agree with the author with this article. It is better to teach ID in the schools so that it can be debunked rather than let the religious community control the debate. Smart guy, this Mr Persky.

Tory caucus to prepare for sneak These Atlantic MPs sometimes use quite descriptive language.

Now that Canada has passed the Clarity Act should Ottawa enforce it and decide the next question, if we are to have another Quebec referendum about Quebec seperating from Canada? I suppose there are some pros and cons. Will enough Quebecers resent the fact that Qttawa is choosing the question so that in itself could become an issue during the contest?

CES I agree that it should be country wide, and I assume most Canadians would as well. But what's the point of Ontario Hydro and Quebec Hydro as they are already in government hands? The Que-NL dispute is another issue. I think the federal government should give the provinces the option of either nationalizing the energy industry, otherwise the federales will do it. Is electricity in private hands anywhere in Canada? And what rates do consumers pay compared to the government run ones? If it is anything at all like auti insurance, I can pretty well guarantee you that the private ones will charge consumers more.

Once again your theory is fine, however in reality the government may be forced to act to stay in power. 50% of Canadians already want some kind of nationalization If it gets much higher the government may be forced to nationalize. It seems like the government may have waited too long to control the profits of their big huile buddies, and now the decision may be taken away from the government if they wish to remain in power.

The theory is right, but the reality is wrong however, as our governments are in bed with the corporations, and you don't increase taxes on your buddies if you can help it, do you? When I say governments, I'm actually saying the PMO, where these kind of decisions are actually made, at least in Ottawa.

No it is not about any business, it is about essential services or products. Why should we not be controling these things? The are risks walking across the street but we all do it. If as had been said many countries control their resources. Canada surely can as well. The major risk to Canada is that most of the oil companies are housed next door. We all need energy, and I'm not talking about power bars, for survival whether it be gasoline to go to work, electricity and natural gas to heat and light our homes, etc. In other words it is a cative market as everyone needs energy. We need to keep our profits at home for Canadians on any essential products and services.

Nationalization is obviously the correct choice for a lot of people. If Canada were to nationalize our oil industry how would that hurt the Canadians who work and live in Alberta? The jobs would still be there, and it is not like the oil is going to go anywhere else. It seems like this whole issue is just a tug of war between Ottawa and Alberta governments which really represent the corporate community, and why should the profits on our Canadian resources go to foreign corporations?

I wonder how many countries at the present time have nationalized oil & gas industries. I have heard that Russia has recently nationalized some of its oil holdings. Venezuela, Libya. Who else?

How about: "I double black dog dare you."

I don't want to go off on tangents. We have some inappapropriate threads and posts here that are driving away decent posters and that is the issue I am concerned about.

No one is suggesating that Greg read every post. Now let's deal with the reason for this thread One of the two offending threads mentioning in the initial post here has now been up for 4 days. The ugly hate-filled Left, Bush Derangement Syndrome running amok Now that kind of language may be acceptable to you, but it is not to a lot of others. No wonder we are losing good people, as they don't want to subject themselves to to it.

Sparhawk Have you read the comments from people at News And Announcements who complain about the insulting comments that have now become regular here at MLW?

But the reality is that the Liberals are a minority government, so they are just posturing the same way the Tories are posturing. It's a little show for their respective fans, and if the three opposition parties get together they can force a vote this Fall.

What's going on with our moderator here at mapleleafweb? He comes in and checks the postings regularly, so it is not as if he is unaware of the problem, but he allows certain posters, for example, Montgomery Burns and B Max to break the rules that he has posted and revises on a regular basis. What seems to be the problem? Maybe Greg is burnt out. Perhaps we need a more impartial moderator than Greg. And before all you folks on the right side of the political spectrum rush in to defend these garbage threads, you know very well if someone was using this kind of language to attack the right, you would be all over Greg if he allowed it. My reason for starting this thread is it has now become a serious problem and we are losing decent posters, because of the inappropriate threads and postings that are now being allowed here, by our moderator at MLW. Greg, we don't need you flipping out over this thread, we just would like an explanation from you as to why you are allowing this kind of behaviour, and for you to initiate some action, as this stuff goes against your rules here at MLW. The ugly hate-filled Left, Bush Derangement Syndrome running amok The left outed once again, A despicable lot Take a look at some of the comments from other posters in the News and Announcements Section here.

Sorry you feel this way. Unfortunately Mapleleafweb haas lost quite a few good posters here because of what you are observing. I hope that you will continue to post here.