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Ya actually the Americans are suffering worse human rights violations. But I'm sure the Cubans like it that people put more value on them then American's. WWWTT

Yes! This is called tinfoilhatsplaining from Derek 2.0. Very popular trick in the conservatives bag of debating treats that gets pulled out from time to time. When conservatives need to destroy their opponents credibility in a debate, time to start tinfoilhatsplaining! WWWTT

We are also not a small country like Greece and have different regions to bail out the lesser regions! There is without a shadow of doubt regions in Canada that are worse off than Greece! But the Feds bail them out with transfer payments and residents can migrate out for work opportunities in other regions of Canada. WWWTT

Very true!!! Canada's economy is only one spot higher than Spain's! A couple of years ago, Spain's economy was actually larger than Canada's! This could also explain why the Canadian markets are skittish when there is uncertainty from Greece. We're in not much better shape. WWWTT

Not exactly sure what you mean by "retirement benefits" Also not even sure of the total legalities involved but here's a go at it. http://ec.europa.eu/justice/citizen/move-live/index_en.htm Apparently this is related http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty.html I'm not claiming that I know it all in these Europa cases. But I know for a fact that they are involved, include many countries, many laws and many people and different views! And believe me, I have relatives in Portugal that all have different views for and against. I also strongly believe that there's a lot of this story we are not hearing or is not being told! WWWTT

Don't forget Portugal! Everyone forgets about Portugal. I have to admit that I am not completely fluent with all the rules. I know people from Portugal can and do migrate to Germany for work and education. All I'm saying is that this issue is much more involved and there is a story not being told. These 4 southern countries that we have mentioned have been poor for a long time before Europa. If they have been living beyond their means, it started after the Europa deal! WWWTT

I suggest you research the obligations of European nations. Anyone whom is a citizen of a Europa country can migrate to any other and take up residence. Similar to the relationship that provinces within Canada have with each other. There are also transfer payments within Canada. Possible parallels can be drawn. WWWTT

You're putting Greece in a no win scenario here. How can Greece have the money to take care of seniors who only showed up at their country after they retired after working and paying taxes in northern Europa countries? WWWTT

Yep! There's a couple of stories that the corporate austerity media don't want to make any mention of! My parent's have a house in Sao Miguel Acores Portugal. They bought it in the early 90's at a fair price. The value skyrocketed to it's pinnacle around 2008 and now we can't give it away! All thanks to northern European Euro countries migrating there to retire. This artificial real estate boom and bust is very hard on the locals. As well, the seniors retiring to these southern warm locations are sucking up very expensive health care/social and other services. My parents house taxes are less than 200 Euros per year. Taxes can't go up either because it would be a nut busters on the local. So transfer payments are in order. But when we hear about the transfer payments, it's made to sound like countries such as Germany don't owe anybody and are only paying out of charity! This is total BS because Germany is relieved of supporting many of their seniors and have a windfall in healthcare/social spending! After all, those seniors were paying income taxes when they were younger and healthy! WWWTT

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Here's a link that speaks to the thread. Sorry, if you are looking for something about sugar cane or the Amazon river or about the Canadian shield or strippers or Obama, don't click on it! http://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/kory-teneycke-got-grilled-by-tom-clark-about-new-ad#.ihQ3p7N0L3 WWWTT

Ya you don't get how money is made in Canada. If you tell a group of people that they can not write off an expense, then that group is going to take the government to court and easily prove discrimination because every other business and person filling taxes is claiming expenses! You really hate the economy and want to destroy it! WWWTT

Can't ban unions from expressing their views first of all. Union membership is already voluntary but not paying dues because a court already ruled that dues are used for the benefit are members. Much way that taxes are supposed to be used for the benefit of the people who pay them WWWTT

I see your point Actually your point is what most of us initially have seen. It takes work to shake off the propaganda that we have been feed by alleged historians. Did they have 24hr media coverage during the American civil war? What about satellite news during Kennedy, Truman Or King's era's? How can today's leaders hide away so easily when the media/social media are constantly on their asses 24/7? And rightfully so! No, what you are doing is taking these past leaders out of context and are implying that they were under the same media/social microscope as today's leaders. As well, you are under the impression that historians are independent of the influence of propaganda. Simply false and far from believable. WWWTT

I'd like to see the polls after relentless attack adds showing Maestro in his now famous long 1 minute walk! WWWTT

An eternity in politics is an media phrase which seems to only apply once in a generation. Not even sure if I should be making such a comment because these are one of those phrases that has a chameleon meaning. I like to describe this one as an not so slow train wreck for the conservatives. WWWTT

Funny how the conservatives don't think if the tactic worked, it wouldn't work on Harper? I'm sure Harper has lot's of skeletons the socialist PAC's could use. But why bother when there's bigger chickens in the pot! WWWTT

Despite what the thread is, that won't be the big story. The slip of the majority government into 3rd place will be what everyone's talking about! WWWTT

conservatives already started spending money months ago in attack adds, didn't work as polls show! Harper has no intention of attending an leaders debate so as far as rolling over and going quietly goes, that's is probably their best campaign policy going for them right now! And as far as digging up dirt on Mulcair goes, what are they waiting for? Oh it's bad alright. Real bad to be a conservative in 2015! WWWTT

Or they bribed the Canadian government(conservatives,pc,liberals). See Air Bus scandal. All hard to tell though when everyone covers their paper trails. WWWTT

Ya it's called "propaganda"! Works best when the subject and most people of the era have already died! Also called "rewriting history". Lots of stuff get's cherry picked and tons more of stuff is intentionally forgotten and/or hidden away and/or taken out of context to fit an agenda that is always changing depending on the user. A lot harder to do now on modern leaders with today's technology and media coverage. WWWTT

I don't know what they were thinking in Norway? Were they just trying to kiss Obama's ass, or were they looking for more ways to dismiss any credibility their award had left? Hard to say which it is? Maybe both? WWWTT

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