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dre, I think we always have to be careful of not referring to the Israelis or the Jewish people as the problem. They're not and they are both very distinct from the real problem of Zionism, or, the Zionists. Jewish people and Israelis can be good and decent people and it's evident when they speak up and condemn the Zionists.

Derek, Wait, it must not be true because antiwar.com is lying. Hold the phone and cancel that one! Uhoh, wait, don't hold the phone, Reuters and all the other news agencies are saying the same thing. I guess it's always going to be the same with the US apologists Derek, attack the messenger instead of attacking the message. It's sure sign of desperation to protect the image! Freepin at the freepers ball! LOL

OH, and -1=e, if you're going to resort to the personal attacks by telling me I'm messed up, how about explaining yourself and I'll just not bother paying any attention to the attack?

-1=e, etc., You haven't told us what's so wrong about suicide bombing in comparison to the US or other militarily powerful nations using bombs and other weapons of mass destruction. How about equating to Kamikazi pilots of WW2? Was that in some way evil or was it just using the power of religious persuasion to convince soldiers to give their lives for the cause? You brought up the point on suicide bombers and it's a good one. A discussion on it could help us to find our way through the US propaganda jungle they depend on so much in order to convince stupid people to see it their way. Don't run away now, it's your issue! As for my own personal preferences, I'm againist all killing but my first choice of eliminating a means of killing would be to outlaw the method which has the potential to kill the most people at one time. Huge US bombs on civilian populations come to mind. And of course, Canadian warplanes carrying and dropping that sort of weapons is my chief concern. So how about you? Why is it that you are so against suicide bombers? Could it have anything to do with the fact that big and powerful nations have no way of defending against them? I think that's what it is -1=e etc!

marcus, remember Abraham's mother's milk cow and the total lack of humanitarian concern for Abraham's baby when the milk cow dried up becaue of the rocket made out of a stovepipe. Oy vey, the humanity. Ahhhhhhhhhhh! LOL

I'm not trying to change your mind b_c, I'm just bringing it to the forum's attention again. If the US wants to see more terrorist attacks such as that on 9/11 then it only needs to continue in it's current path. But of course you could always pretend that it wasn't revenge and it was because they are jealous of your big screen t.v. sets! Canada will make the choice too eventually and there's pretty good choice that if it's Harper and his accomplices making the choice then it will be further alignment with US aggression. Chretien demonstrated that the LIberal party didn't stand for that. And really, why would Canada want to interfere in the ME anyway? The CPC only support the US because of economic blackmail if we don't. Same reason why the coalition of the Pacific atolls and tiny European monarchies didn't resist the blackmailing for the latest Iraq war!

And now the Ukraine's defence minister is vowing to retake the Crimea militarily! LOL Should they even try after the people made it very clear that they chose Russia? Story at antiwar.com

This isn't about hate b_c, it's about the facts. Support for apartheid against the Palestinian people was one of the reasons for the revenge attack on 9/11. I oppose the killinig of innocents in revenge attacks but I have to understand that it will continue to happen as long as there are reasons for seeking revenge. So why do you support the obvious killing of innocent Americans? It's an inescapable conclusion isn't it? I also understand that the big change in US loyalty toward Zionist apartheid won't come until the inevitable happens. The US needs to be proactive and do what it takes to prevent it from happening. More bombing of Muslims in the ME is not it!

If religion is accepted as legitimate, as it is in the US then no justice system is going to be able to make sense of it. You can't take superstitious beliefs and apply them to influence the law. And so, the conclusion should be, birth control kills babies as does masturbation. With religious believers it has to be all or nothing, there's no half way point where sensible solutions can be observed. Or, the world is only about 6000 years old or it's billions of years old. Make your choice Americans because your society is waiting and depending on it.

Wrong b_c? You made my point for rme.

Well said Marcus. The truth can't be kept down forever. It's just quite amazing that the power of propaganda has kept it hidden for so long. But eventually what is going to break through is the US beginning to understand that their support of the Zionist tyranny could cost them in revenge attacks because of their support. Or more correctly, more than it already has, because there's no doubt this contributed to the 9/11 attacks.

What's your problem with suicice bombing? We're not talking about who the intended victims are but a means of warfare used by those who don't have huge military means such as WMD's. Would it displease you less if I advocated fighting back with bombs in civilian population areas? What's your preferring manner of killing people in a war? you wanted to talk about it -1=e, now talk about it. I'm going to tell you right now that I don't see that there should be any preference of one method over another. It can be as humane as killing people can be or it can be as evil and torturous. Neither side has any sort of monopoly over the other. So in truth, suicide bombing is sort of more humane, if in fact any sort of killing can be considered humane. Now answer up and then I can go back to just ignoring your silliness of finding one method preferential over another.

On Guard, and who gave you the credentials to tell me what I should be telling Americans. Anyway, you said it when you said 'should be aware of'. Are you just running around now looking for a fight? Why are you continuously attacking me when you know you should be attacking my opinions?

It just could be a good time to start talking about Syria again. Syria is becoming a big problem for the US and it's pretty certain that if a terrorist attack comes now, it's going to be blamed on Syria. Even though everything is pointing at the possibility of another attack from Saudis. The US needs a pretext for going into Syria. Watch and listen to the news carefully. All the signs are there!

bcsapper, I have been able to cut and paste here up until about 3 days ago I think. I should also say that I can't use the quote option either. Your idea of using Firefox seems to be a good one. I might try it. On guard, Harper hates Obama and is trying to subvert from without. Americans should be aware of that. So in fact, b_c is providing useful input on the topic. I just wish he wouldn't keep spamming off topic!

Gosthacked, Are you trying to accuse me of being another member on this forum? And fwiw, I can't use the quote button either. I don't get the quote coming up for some reason. I have a friend who's a computer geek volunteered to work on the problem for me and I'll report back any progress we make. Real smart dude that seems to unbury just about any secret of the internet or fourms such as this. If there are any questions you can ask of me to help you put your finger on your unwarranted accusation, please do ask me. I'm right up front on it and have already dealt with it when I was accused of being a Muslim ex-poster or whatever the hell that was about.

Whoa there -1=e, etc., don't try to demonize me by attributing to me that which I'm not asking for. Suicide bombings are only one means of seeking revenge by freedom fighters. But I suggest that here's what you are advocating: Bombing of the civilian population of women and children indiscriminately with huge bombs that slaughter thousands of people at a time. Something like the US used on the Cambodian people. Isn't that what 'you' really want? Isn't it really just a matter of who is doing the killing and has nothing to do with how the killing is done? I mean, why would you care? Why would you care if an American strapped a bomb to himself and went to Iraq and detonated himself next to a hundred or so Muslims? Would you not celebrate his success and even observe a minute of silence for his supreme sacrifice? Hmmmmm? Don't mess with me unless you want turnabout young man!

TSS, what happens to Japan is going to have a lot to do with the countries it chooses to align itself with. If it aligns itself with the losers of the future then it's going to lose bigtime too. The same goes for any other country and that includes Canada. That's why we need to be our own country and not align ourselves with the current big bully. Instead, we can be good friends with all the world's super powers.

b_c, it's a thread about the CPC and Harper. Why not try to stop making it about something else that appeals to you at the moment? Thanks!

Careful about what Gosthacked? I think it must be referring to either you or shady but I'm not sure now. It's a bitch when I can't cut and paste. But you be careful because you wouldn't want to complain about a compliment would you. It always leads to more embarrassment than it's worth. And as for my remarks on you or whoever being propagandized by the US? Of course that stands for both of you and a few more too.

On Guard, you got me there. I didn't write what I was thinking. I meant to say that Harper would have signed on to that war but Chretien listened to the Canadian people. Mistake admitted. But it doesn't get you off the hook on the challenge I've offered you. Harper would have taken us to war in Iraq regardless of SC blowing the whistle on the US. And I can prove it. So let's do it pal, you try to tell us that Harper wouldn't have taken us to war and I'll prove that he definitely wanted to and voiced that opinion strongly. Put up or face the only other alternative. LOL Guyser, wait your turn, this isn't a cakewalk with you when I can't cut and paste. It's only evened the playing field a bit for now.

On guard, I'm not aware of any contradiction. please explain. I do accept your explanation of Chretien decided based on the findings of the SC. However, I also know that other countries were blackmailed by the US to sign on to the second one. I'm still firmly convinced that Harper would have signed on to it. And when I get a chance I'll try to substantiate that by finding references to Harper or the CPC criticizing Chretien's decision. But on guard, LOL, if you are in any way as politically astute as you are pretending to be, you'll already know that Chretien was strongly criticized by the CPC and the political right. So on guard, wanna put up right now? Was he or wasn't he? And if you don't want to put up pal, then you know the other choice? LOL

MH, I recognize your attempt to stay on topic. It's just that it offers little to talk about other than the fact that Canada is starting to see the necessity of diversifying our foreign trade in order to have some immunity from blackmail attempts by the US. I think that's something we can agree upon at least. The link I posted was in response to what I considered your demand for one. You will recall that I asked the question on whether one was necessary and you declined to answer. You can do that now if you like? And you could offer an explanation of why I can't cut and paste on this forum? Does it have something to do with admin or mod action against me or is it more likely to be my computer glitches? Fwiw, I can cut and paste everywhere else? Not an accusation of course, just an observation.

Guyser, I'll let you know when I'm again able to cut and paste. For now just google it because there are tons of references to Harper's mad rush to war that eclipsed the US madness.

PIK, Harper and his party's aligning itself with US aggesssion and meddling in Syria was alarming to say the least! It was a demonstration of Harper attempting to lead this time as opposed to just following. Are you aware of that? Do you understand what I'm telling you? I'll get into the detail if I find that my audience is going to be capable of understanding and will stop the silly personal attacks and spamming of the topic. Would you like to be one of the first to try that PIK?