WestCoastRunner

Wtf? I'm responding to your post and now all of a sudden I'm derailing?

That's a bizarre response. Elaborate?

If the community has 50% of women then they should be rightfully represented. So yes. Wouldn't you want your daughters to be protected and served by women as well as men?

Just as religious folks through out statements simply based out of fear

There are efforts for western and islamic feminists to come together. It's an evolving process with mistakes and gains made along the way. I'm quite positive things are progressing for Muslim women around the world. Certainly not fast enough but there is progress.

Women expect to be policed by women as well as races expects to be policed by their own. A police force should also be representative of a white community including gender ratio.

Policing is a bit different than firefighting. Asian or black communities should have equal representation as well in order to instill a sense of fairness and build trust and respect in communities. Why wouldn't you want that in your community?

Well that is your opinion but I'm sure Islamist feminists wouldn't agree with you that it's to avail.

Don't you agree that police should be representative of the community they are policing?

How do you know they have little influence? Did you even read the sources provided? Of course they will get attacked, whether it's through social media, their communities etc but it's a fight they are willing to undertake. Some progress reported (that I have the time to find right now): "Egypt, where one of the world’s most influential centers of Islamic study is squaring its teachings with the changing status of women. In Morocco, recent changes at a courthouse examining Muslim family law are making it easier for women to divorce, inherit property, and gain custody of their children. In France, a look at how extreme secularism may be protecting or persecuting Muslim populations. And in the United States, visit the country’s first all-female mosque, and learn how one progressive Muslim feminist is expressing herself and her religion in a surprising way — with comedy." "As the famous Kyai Hussein Mohammed, one the first ulama converts to the cause of women’s rights in Indonesia said, the gender training he underwent forced him to find a way to reconcile between his belief in a God that is just and the discrimination women suffered. "In the largest Muslim country in the world, the progressive Islamic scholarship that dominates the religious education system, and the resilience and confidence among those in government and in religious authority, among the leadership (male and female) of Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah, and among the graduates of the pesantren and State Islamic universities and institutes, stand them in good stead that it is their belief in a compassionate and just Islam within a plural Indonesia that will prevail." http://www.sistersinislam.org.my/news.php?item.1487.6

What approach would you like to see?

Islamist Feminists are working towards change. These movements are just not being reported on. "But Muslim women are fighting back. While despotic governments and extremists battle for power, Islamic scholars, community activists, and ordinary Muslims are waging a peaceful jihad on male authority, demanding what they say are God- given rights to gender equality and justice. From Cambridge to Cairo to Jakarta, women are going back to Islam’s classical texts and questioning the way men have read them for centuries. In the Middle East, activists are contesting outdated family laws based on Islamic jurisprudence, which give men the power in marriages, divorces, and custody issues. In Europe and the United States, women are chipping away at the customs that have had a chilling effect on women praying in mosques or holding leadership positions." "While the overall message of the Quran is unchanging, say Muslim reformers, new generations must find their own readings of the sacred texts. As it stands, Islamic fiqh, or jurisprudence, was largely forged during the medieval period, when women’s roles and the concept of marriage and male authority were very different. Why, they ask, should the way that 10th-century Baghdadi men read the Quran dictate the rights of a 21st-century woman? To the reactionaries who charge that these reformers are deviating from Islam, Islamic feminists point out that there is a difference between Islamic jurisprudence—a man-made legal scaffolding developed for the specific conditions of medieval Muslim life—and the divine law itself, which is eternal, unchanging and calls for justice. It’s not the Quran they question, but how particular interpretations of it have hardened into truth. “The problem has never been with the text, but with the context,” legal anthropologist Ziba Mir-Hosseini told the Musawah seminar." Some excellent readings can be found here: Muslim Women Are Fighting To Redefine Islam as a Religion of Equality America Abroad: Understanding Islamic Feminism Q&A: Talk explores role of Islamic feminism Sisters in Islam: Empowering voices for change

Trump has retweeted a fox news story based on anonymous intelligence sources. Hehe. This is hilarious. Especially after this: "Trump has repeatedly complained about leaks of government information to the press. Last week, Attorney General Jeff Sessions vowed a crackdown, arguing such leaks could harm national security." And Nikki Haley said this about the news report: "Asked about the story on Fox & Friends, U.S. Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley said, "I can't talk about anything that's classified and if that's in a newspaper, that's a shame."" She also said this: "Pressed on whether this was a leak, Haley said: "It's one of these things I don't know what's going on. But I will tell you that it's incredibly dangerous when things get out into the press like that."" Don't miss the late night talk shows tonight!! http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4238758

Here is what we can expect once trump gets involved. I hear he tweeted Intel sensitive information today too regarding their response to NK.

Think what you will. You have that right.

I don't cry to anyone. And I've addressed your post for what it is. I haven't insulted anyone.

Apologise for your hyperbolic, shrill, hysteria that you try to use to inflame everyone. I don't think so. I'm on to your agenda. Some folks are just too gullible to see it.

What a freaking hysterical statement.

That doesn't make sense. The populations of Aboriginals and Muslims are pretty close and yet I can count 29 Aboriginal women killed compared to 3 or 4 out of a total of 156.

I just provided a link above that proves that far, far more non-Muslim women are victims of domestic killings than non-Muslim women. Do you people have blinders on when this evidence is presented to you in black and white. It doesn't get much clearer than that with regards to domestic violence against Muslim women.

And the rest.

So we are in agreement that domestic killings against Muslim women are far far less then against non-Muslims. Good to know.

I'm confused why there isn't more Muslim women on this list? There appears to be more Aboriginal women on this list than Muslims. I wonder why that is.

Since this thread is about Islamaphobia in Canada, I will post this link which I have previously posted that lists of names of female victims of domestic homicide in Canada (2015). From this list I can spot perhaps 3 or 4 Muslim names out of 153. Given your post above, I would think there would be 8x more Muslim women killed then non-Muslim women. Your post is simply inflaming hatred towards Muslim men and this list points out there is no higher incidence of it among Muslim men in Canada. in fact there is far, far less women killed in Canada by Muslim men. Source: http://ohegarty.blogspot.ca/p/counting-dead-women-canada-2015.html