Too Much Like The Americans

[BayLee]

Well well.Just like I have been saying all along.Harper wants to be just like bush.

And sounds just like him

And to think this bunch of CONS spent 76,000 dollars to figure that out.

Something two thirds of Canadians already knew.

HIGHLIGHTS

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OTTAWA–The Conservative government has been "too American" in its attempts to justify the Afghan war to a skeptical Canadian public, according to an internal report commissioned by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

The extensive critique of the Tory communications strategy on the war comes from a series of cross-country focus groups conducted in November 2006 at a cost of almost $76,000.

The study, obtained by the Toronto Star, found that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was "echoing" U.S. President George W. Bush in his attempt to explain why Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in the country's southern province.

Harper has drawn a link between the NATO-led mission and the 24 Canadians who were killed in the collapse of New York's World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor recently described the the fight as "retribution" for the terrorist attacks.

Public support for the mission in Afghanistan stood at 35 per cent in late December, the report said.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182857

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Maybe Harper needs to do a Preston Manning and get a new look.

Like lose a hundred pounds and get rid of that silly tiny baby grin

[madmax]

And to think this bunch of CONS spent 76,000 dollars to figure that out.

Something two thirds of Canadians already knew.

Waste of money.

[scribblet]

What else do you expect from the Star? Maybe we'd rather be like the Taliban, and judging from some posts the Taliban and AQ are preferable.

[madmax]

What else do you expect from the Star?

The Star didn't spend the money. It's a waste of money.

[Borg]

Thanks for the laugh.

The star? No surprize here.

Your comments about Mr. Harper are quite telling.

Borg

Well well.Just like I have been saying all along.Harper wants to be just like bush.

And sounds just like him

And to think this bunch of CONS spent 76,000 dollars to figure that out.

Something two thirds of Canadians already knew.

HIGHLIGHTS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OTTAWA–The Conservative government has been "too American" in its attempts to justify the Afghan war to a skeptical Canadian public, according to an internal report commissioned by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

The extensive critique of the Tory communications strategy on the war comes from a series of cross-country focus groups conducted in November 2006 at a cost of almost $76,000.

The study, obtained by the Toronto Star, found that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was "echoing" U.S. President George W. Bush in his attempt to explain why Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in the country's southern province.

Harper has drawn a link between the NATO-led mission and the 24 Canadians who were killed in the collapse of New York's World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor recently described the the fight as "retribution" for the terrorist attacks.

Public support for the mission in Afghanistan stood at 35 per cent in late December, the report said.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182857

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Maybe Harper needs to do a Preston Manning and get a new look.

Like lose a hundred pounds and get rid of that silly tiny baby grin

[BayLee]

What else do you expect from the Star? Maybe we'd rather be like the Taliban, and judging from some posts the Taliban and AQ are preferable.

Whats the Star have to do with it?

Its not their report.

Harper,s CONS s[pent 76,000 dollars to say Harper is acting to much like bush

And yes Harper could stand to lose 100 pounds

[Topaz]

The weight problem Harper has he said he always had weight problems. I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication? Both will put the weight on a person but hey.. I thought he couldn't wait to be PM so why the mental health problem?? Just another thing he has in common with Bush!

[Canadian Blue]

Wow, the accusation's and speculation is flying around like shit flies on this thread.

[BayLee]

Wow, the accusation's and speculation is flying around like shit flies on this thread.

What accusation? What speculation?

Harper is fat The CONS did come up with that report

But that aside CB

Why dont you say how you really feel about the CONS spending all that taxpayer money just to tell us Harper is acting too much like bush

[apollo19]

What accusation? What speculation?

Harper is fat The CONS did come up with that report

But that aside CB

Why dont you say how you really feel about the CONS spending all that taxpayer money just to tell us Harper is acting too much like bush

Sorry, but I don't see the meaning in any of this. Why are you calling Harper fat? What does that possibly have to do with anything? I guess in your world, he should be a polar opposite of Bush, since apparently Bush jogs everyday. Since I haven't seen you post here before, I would suggest that you stop being so partisan and insulting people based on their physical appearance.

About the "focus groups" and public money being spent on them -- I disagree with that. Why would the government spend money to craft a communications strategy for a political move?

[Canadian Blue]

Yeah, I just don't like hearing the rants of irrational people. It's always just a cluster of emotion with very little substance. The fact Baylee constantly resorts to personal insults obviously says something of that poster.

Harper is fat The CONS did come up with that report

But that aside CB

Why dont you say how you really feel about the CONS spending all that taxpayer money just to tell us Harper is acting too much like bush

The conservatives came up with a report that said Harper was fat. That's the first time I've heard that.

I agree the report was a waste of money, but in all honesty this really isn't a debate whenever you step in. You make some radical comment's, and then try to insult people.

[noahbody]

Well well.Just like I have been saying all along.Harper wants to be just like bush.

And sounds just like him

And to think this bunch of CONS spent 76,000 dollars to figure that out.

Something two thirds of Canadians already knew.

HIGHLIGHTS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OTTAWA–The Conservative government has been "too American" in its attempts to justify the Afghan war to a skeptical Canadian public, according to an internal report commissioned by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

The extensive critique of the Tory communications strategy on the war comes from a series of cross-country focus groups conducted in November 2006 at a cost of almost $76,000.

The study, obtained by the Toronto Star, found that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was "echoing" U.S. President George W. Bush in his attempt to explain why Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in the country's southern province.

Harper has drawn a link between the NATO-led mission and the 24 Canadians who were killed in the collapse of New York's World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor recently described the the fight as "retribution" for the terrorist attacks.

Public support for the mission in Afghanistan stood at 35 per cent in late December, the report said.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182857

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Maybe Harper needs to do a Preston Manning and get a new look.

Like lose a hundred pounds and get rid of that silly tiny baby grin

"...in it's attempts to justify the Afgan war"

It is the Liberals who took us into the Afgan war and rightly so. The war was justified, necessary and our duty. All the poll indicates is that Canadians are too apathetic to get informed. What a surprise.

[southerncomfort]

The weight problem Harper has he said he always had weight problems. I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication? Both will put the weight on a person but hey.. I thought he couldn't wait to be PM so why the mental health problem?? Just another thing he has in common with Bush!

Jest wondering what a weight problem has to do with good government and debate. Your going to have to back up that little tidibt about the medication, nothing like those drive by smears huh.

[jbg]

I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication?

At least Canada (over your opposition) believes that people can recover from depression, or at least its conservatives do. Better than the way compassionate lefties (link) </ sarcasm> treat their own when they've had issues.

[dlkenny]

Well well.Just like I have been saying all along.Harper wants to be just like bush.

And sounds just like him

And to think this bunch of CONS spent 76,000 dollars to figure that out.

Something two thirds of Canadians already knew.

HIGHLIGHTS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OTTAWA–The Conservative government has been "too American" in its attempts to justify the Afghan war to a skeptical Canadian public, according to an internal report commissioned by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

The extensive critique of the Tory communications strategy on the war comes from a series of cross-country focus groups conducted in November 2006 at a cost of almost $76,000.

The study, obtained by the Toronto Star, found that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was "echoing" U.S. President George W. Bush in his attempt to explain why Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in the country's southern province.

Harper has drawn a link between the NATO-led mission and the 24 Canadians who were killed in the collapse of New York's World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor recently described the the fight as "retribution" for the terrorist attacks.

Public support for the mission in Afghanistan stood at 35 per cent in late December, the report said.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182857

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Maybe Harper needs to do a Preston Manning and get a new look.

Like lose a hundred pounds and get rid of that silly tiny baby grin

Just a question, do you not think that terrorists would strike Canada? You are aware that Canada is the largest supplier of energy to the USA right? Would you rather take the fight to them over in Afghanistan or in our own streets? The way I see it, it's one or the other and I'd much rather take the fight to them.

[jbg]

Just a question, do you not think that terrorists would strike Canada? You are aware that Canada is the largest supplier of energy to the USA right? Would you rather take the fight to them over in Afghanistan or in our own streets? The way I see it, it's one or the other and I'd much rather take the fight to them.

Absolutely. If it's us or them, I choose us.

[Eldrick Woods]

I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication?

At least Canada (over your opposition) believes that people can recover from depression, or at least its conservatives do. Better than the way compassionate lefties (link) </ sarcasm> treat their own when they've had issues.

Can you keep the Fox News left vs right BS out of this. I'm taking a stand I refuse to let my country get drawn into this f&&king stupid ideological insultfest. where nothing gets solved and good ideas are lost because sarcasm rules the day. Lefties? What are you some kind of cheap version of Ann Coulter?

[jbg]

I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication?

At least Canada (over your opposition) believes that people can recover from depression, or at least its conservatives do. Better than the way compassionate lefties (link) </ sarcasm> treat their own when they've had issues.

Can you keep the Fox News left vs right BS out of this. I'm taking a stand I refuse to let my country get drawn into this f&&king stupid ideological insultfest. where nothing gets solved and good ideas are lost because sarcasm rules the day. Lefties? What are you some kind of cheap version of Ann Coulter?

Did I mention FN? While I'm at it do you get your news from Al Jeezerah or CBC? Oops, a distinction without a difference.

[WestViking]

I also remember he had to go on anti-drepression medication or was it panic attack medication?

At least Canada (over your opposition) believes that people can recover from depression, or at least its conservatives do. Better than the way compassionate lefties (link) </ sarcasm> treat their own when they've had issues.

Can you keep the Fox News left vs right BS out of this. I'm taking a stand I refuse to let my country get drawn into this f&&king stupid ideological insultfest. where nothing gets solved and good ideas are lost because sarcasm rules the day. Lefties? What are you some kind of cheap version of Ann Coulter?

If you are seeking the high road, you just drove off a precipice.

[hiti]

It is the Liberals who took us into the Afgan war and rightly so. The war was justified, necessary and our duty. All the poll indicates is that Canadians are too apathetic to get informed. What a surprise.

Our troops were sent to Afghanistan for "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose." It is Steve who turned this mission into a war to appease Bush.

[Army Guy]

Hiti:

Our troops were sent to Afghanistan for "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose." It is Steve who turned this mission into a war to appease Bush.

It's a good thing history is recorded and filed away for all to see, or we would have to start believing all this liberal garbage on how our mission changed when the CPC took power.

Remember operation Anaconda, our first big operation in Afgan, just for some of you liberals who believe all that liberal preaching Operation Anaconda involved a large portion of the PPCLI Battle group, thier mission was to hunt down taliban groups not to offer humanitarian , diplomatic, financial or legislative aid, but to instead, relocate taliban elements from this planet so they could sit by allah's side with those virgins he's promised...PPCLI did this liberal tasking with honor, infact setting world records for sniping,and being awarded US bravery medals, bronze and silver stars...OH wait there is more the decission to move into southern Afgan was made before the CPC took office, which begs the question did Mr. Harper really have that much influence in the liberal cabinet, or was he really just caring on with a program already written by the liberals.

So who really set the tone for this mission, was it really Mr. Harper, or was it those teflon liberals. OH OH Alex ...Who is the liberal party....

[White Doors]

It is the Liberals who took us into the Afgan war and rightly so. The war was justified, necessary and our duty. All the poll indicates is that Canadians are too apathetic to get informed. What a surprise.

Our troops were sent to Afghanistan for "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose." It is Steve who turned this mission into a war to appease Bush.

haha You have exposed yourself as a hack. And not a very good one at that.

[Canadian Blue]

Hiti, can the Liberal's do no wrong in your books?

[hiti]

Hiti:

Our troops were sent to Afghanistan for "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose." It is Steve who turned this mission into a war to appease Bush.

It's a good thing history is recorded and filed away for all to see, or we would have to start believing all this liberal garbage on how our mission changed when the CPC took power.

Remember operation Anaconda, our first big operation in Afgan, just for some of you liberals who believe all that liberal preaching Operation Anaconda involved a large portion of the PPCLI Battle group, thier mission was to hunt down taliban groups not to offer humanitarian , diplomatic, financial or legislative aid, but to instead, relocate taliban elements from this planet so they could sit by allah's side with those virgins he's promised...PPCLI did this liberal tasking with honor, infact setting world records for sniping,and being awarded US bravery medals, bronze and silver stars...OH wait there is more the decission to move into southern Afgan was made before the CPC took office, which begs the question did Mr. Harper really have that much influence in the liberal cabinet, or was he really just caring on with a program already written by the liberals.

So who really set the tone for this mission, was it really Mr. Harper, or was it those teflon liberals. OH OH Alex ...Who is the liberal party....

Operation APOLLO came first. Of the 2,000 soldiers participating in operations, about half were Afghan while the other half consisted of approximately 800-900 U.S. conventional and Special Operating Forces, as well as an additional 200 coalition Special Operating Forces. Minister of National Defence Art Eggleton authorized more than 100 CF members serving on military exchange programs in the U.S. and other allied nations to participate in operations conducted by their host units in response to the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Next was... Deployment of the 3 PPCLI Battle Group

In mid-November 2001, the U.S. asked its coalition partners (including Canada) to provide ground troops for a stabilization force to be deployed in areas secured by the Northern Alliance to facilitate distribution of humanitarian relief and supplies to the people of Afghanistan. Canada immediately placed 1,000 members of the Immediate Reaction Force (Land) (IRF(L)) on 48 hours' notice to deploy. At that time, it was drawn mostly from the Edmonton and Winnipeg-based battalions of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. -end quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_APOLLO

Note: "to facilitate distribution of humanitarian relief and supplies." We all can check history and we all know that members of the 3 PPCLI Battle Group, comprised of 16 soldiers, including six snipers, joined Operation Anaconda. I was very proud of our Canadian snipers. They were superb.

So yes, Canada did send small battle groups who participated with allied nations but their main mission was "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose" until Steve was elected and then it was "boots on the ground" and military photo-ops. http://mapleleafweb.com/education/spotligh...3/timeline.html

In July 2006, Canadian Forces launched Operation Medusa and Canada was at war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._invasion_of_Afghanistan

[scribblet]

Hiti:

Our troops were sent to Afghanistan for "military humanitarian, diplomatic, financial, legislative and domestic security initiatives purpose." It is Steve who turned this mission into a war to appease Bush.

It's a good thing history is recorded and filed away for all to see, or we would have to start believing all this liberal garbage on how our mission changed when the CPC took power.

Remember operation Anaconda, our first big operation in Afgan, just for some of you liberals who believe all that liberal preaching Operation Anaconda involved a large portion of the PPCLI Battle group, thier mission was to hunt down taliban groups not to offer humanitarian , diplomatic, financial or legislative aid, but to instead, relocate taliban elements from this planet so they could sit by allah's side with those virgins he's promised...

Problem is, people like to re write history then present it as fact.