BayLee Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 In a very rare charge in Canada,A RCMP cop in Merrit BC has been charged with torturting a native man whos crime was stealing a bycycle And these things wonder why they are hated Quote I Love My Dogs
geoffrey Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 In a very rare charge in Canada,A RCMP cop in Merrit BC has been charged with torturting a native man whos crime was stealing a bycycleAnd these things wonder why they are hated Link... or something??? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Canadian Blue Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 And these things wonder why they are hated Yeah well since one has done it, then every single member in the 23,466 force must be the exact same right. By the way why do you refer to police constables as "things", isn't that a bit dumb. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 A Mountie in Merritt, B.C., has been charged with torture — the first time a Canadian police officer has faced such a charge.Const. Saxon Peters has already been charged with aggravated assault, unlawful confinement and two counts of obstruction of justice in connection with the alleged beating of an aboriginal man on Aug. 25, 2005. ...But on Monday, Crown prosecutor Stephen Harrison dropped the unlawful confinement charge and replaced it with the Criminal Code offence of torture. Harrison also received approval from the Attorney General’s Ministry to proceed by direct indictment. That means Peters, who is on unpaid suspension, will go directly to trial without a preliminary inquiry. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.h...084a72f&k=43167 They are taking this pretty seriously it seems. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
geoffrey Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Then that's unfortunate, and I hope if he's guilty he faces a just sentenace. What this has to do with politics, I just don't know. If your suggesting that the RCMP is a racist torture type agency... then I couldn't insist more that your incorrect. But this isn't about policy, this is about one guy that went nuts, happens to all professions. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Posit Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 The problem isn't whether or not one cop committed a crime in the execution of his public duty, but the number of cops that hid it and protected him before he was finally charged. When cops defend the types of racist attacks against the public, then yes there is something wrong with the system. When Dudley George was killed there was tape recorded evidence and other evidence presented at the inquiry to suggest that some, if not many of the cops there were racially motivated. When the upper command heard about it very little was done until it was leaked to the media. No one was ever disciplined for the abhorrent behavior. Quote
BayLee Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 By the way why do you refer to police constables as "things", isn't that a bit dumb. And you think a cop who is supposed to be "serving and Protecting" who does this sort of thing is anything other than a thing? Quote I Love My Dogs
geoffrey Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 And you think a cop who is supposed to be "serving and Protecting"who does this sort of thing is anything other than a thing? One cop that loses it is not a reflection on the professionalism of the force. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Canadian Blue Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 And you think a cop who is supposed to be "serving and Protecting"who does this sort of thing is anything other than a thing? No you painted the entire police service with the same brush. You said "and these things wonder why they are hated", which I take to mean every police officer. I have alot of respect for Police Officers, they have to deal with the worst of society, and have very little in the way of support from society. The problem is idiot's who think one bad cop is the same as any other cop. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
BayLee Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 So lets see. In the last few days,just in BC we have seen a cop charged with torture among other charges,another involved with kiddie porn,another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car. We have seen the release of a recomendation in BC that says no more should cops be allowed to investigate themselves after the Ian Bush fiasco where a cop murdered this boy whos crime was drinking a beer in a hockey rink parking lot.After investigating themselves the cops said they did nothing wrong. We see cops harrasing people all the time. Cops charging people with drunk driving while being charged themself with drunk driving. Drunk from drinking confiscated liquor at the police station witht the approval of the sarge. I think calling these people things is appropriate. I think PIGS is a better word but some people for whatever reason dont approve of that term Quote I Love My Dogs
blueblood Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 So lets see.In the last few days,just in BC we have seen a cop charged with torture among other charges,another involved with kiddie porn,another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car. We have seen the release of a recomendation in BC that says no more should cops be allowed to investigate themselves after the Ian Bush fiasco where a cop murdered this boy whos crime was drinking a beer in a hockey rink parking lot.After investigating themselves the cops said they did nothing wrong. We see cops harrasing people all the time. Cops charging people with drunk driving while being charged themself with drunk driving. Drunk from drinking confiscated liquor at the police station witht the approval of the sarge. I think calling these people things is appropriate. I think PIGS is a better word but some people for whatever reason dont approve of that term I hope you have that mentality when you are in serious trouble and need one!! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
guyser Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 I hope you have that mentality when you are in serious trouble and need one!! Pffft......more like cry and whine when the police dont show up right away to resolve his bicycle being stolen. Quote
Canadian Blue Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 So lets see.In the last few days,just in BC we have seen a cop charged with torture among other charges,another involved with kiddie porn,another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car. We have seen the release of a recomendation in BC that says no more should cops be allowed to investigate themselves after the Ian Bush fiasco where a cop murdered this boy whos crime was drinking a beer in a hockey rink parking lot.After investigating themselves the cops said they did nothing wrong. Hold on, so you're saying every single cop is the same as maybe the 1% who are bad apples. I read an article in the paper and a firefighter was working part time as a pimp, does that mean all firefighters are pimps. Ian Bush fiasco where a cop murdered this boy whos crime was drinking a beer in a hockey rink parking lot. Link's... I think PIGS is a better word but some people for whatever reason dont approve of that term You mean people that don't whine and complain about everything. Not to mention those of us that realize police have a high stress job, and many suffer from PTSD. You'll notice the same with with all Emergency Services and the military, many members have problem's due to the stress involved with their job's. Plus the fact that some civilian's take an ignorant tone doesn't help much either. Everybody hates a cop until they need one... Anyways, for those of you who don't know how to deal with the police, or are extremely paranoid here are a few easy steps to follow. [foul language warning] http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZoGApoG0wGA Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Catchme Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 In the last few days, just in BC, we have seen a cop charged with torture among other charges,another involved with kiddie porn,another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car.We have seen the release of a recomendation in BC that says no more should cops be allowed to investigate themselves after the Ian Bush fiasco where a cop murdered this boy whos crime was drinking a beer in a hockey rink parking lot.After investigating themselves the cops said they did nothing wrong. We see cops harrasing people all the time. Cops charging people with drunk driving while being charged themself with drunk driving. Drunk from drinking confiscated liquor at the police station witht the approval of the sarge. There is also another RCMP being investigated for shooting a man in the head who, was camping in a camper down some back rd. The Police Chief of West Van just resigned for cover ups. RCMP in PG and judge were involved in cover ups and prostitution, and that broke last year. BC has certainly been awash with police misconduct over the past year or so, one need only google police/rcmp/BC, to find everything. Plus these types of things happen with those who are given an elevated opinion of their self worth/i,potance, and the right to do things out side of the law. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
weaponeer Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 Maybe it is just that BC is where all the idiots are.... Quote
Catchme Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 Maybe it is just that BC is where all the idiots are.... Not so, could pull up examples from across the country. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Argus Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 The problem isn't whether or not one cop committed a crime in the execution of his public duty, but the number of cops that hid it and protected him before he was finally charged. When cops defend the types of racist attacks against the public, then yes there is something wrong with the system. Other than the suspected criminal was native, and the cop was presumably white, where is the suggestion of racism? When Dudley George was killed there was tape recorded evidence and other evidence presented at the inquiry to suggest that some, if not many of the cops there were racially motivated. No, there was none, actually. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 So lets see.In the last few days,just in BC we have seen a cop charged with torture among other charges,another involved with kiddie porn,another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car. You could also say that in the last year we have seen many (place name of group here) charged with rape, murder, child abuse, theft, forgery and arson. I therefore think (place name of group here) are scum. For that matter, you could look at natives, comment on the fact they appear to be disproportionately involved in criminal activity given their numbers, and wonder aloud whether there wasn't something about them which deserved them being called "things". We see cops harrasing people all the time. We see Black people committing street crime all the time. We see Arab men harassing white women in bars and clubs. We see Asian youths mowing people down in their fast cars. Cops charging people with drunk driving while being charged themself with drunk driving. And politicians pound the podium and speak about honesty, integrity and morality while scooping up public money and pouring it into their pockets. Ain't life funny? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Charles Anthony Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 Yes, life is very funny but our joke is on us. You could also say that in the last year we have seen many (place name of group here) charged withNo. There is a big difference. You neglect to mention that the cops hold a violent monopoly on their employment. Furthermore, their employment is a monopoly on violence. Say what you want about whites or blacks or arabs or asians or whatevers, but we are not forced by Our Divine Edict to do business with them. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
BayLee Posted February 9, 2007 Author Report Posted February 9, 2007 Canadian Blue asked on the previous page for links to the Ian Bush killing. Anyone who does not know about this very well respected young man being shot twice in the back at the police station where he was taken because he was caught with an open beer in the parking lot of a hockey rink is living in denial. The police investigation of themselves showed a rookie cop who was an unknown in a small town,embarresed by Ian then later freaked out and killed him. The investigation is known to have been a complete joke You could also say that in the last year we have seen many (place name of group here) charged with rape, murder, child abuse, theft, forgery and arson. I therefore think (place name of group here) are scum.For that matter, you could look at natives, comment on the fact they appear to be disproportionately involved in criminal activity given their numbers, and wonder aloud whether there wasn't something about them which deserved them being called "things". We see Black people committing street crime all the time. We see Arab men harassing white women in bars and clubs. We see Asian youths mowing people down in their fast cars. These people are not being paid to serve and protect the public. Nor are they charging people for doing the exact crimes they are. And again,they are not the ones who do a criminal investigation on themselves then say you did nothing wrong. Many a cop ,if not most,think they are better than the average citizen. Most are not. In fact most are just nobodies on a power trip Quote I Love My Dogs
BayLee Posted February 9, 2007 Author Report Posted February 9, 2007 Other than the suspected criminal was native, and the cop was presumably white, where is the suggestion of racism?When Dudley George was killed there was tape recorded evidence and other evidence presented at the inquiry to suggest that some, if not many of the cops there were racially motivated. No, there was none, actually. Well yes there was actually. I would say where on the tape one cop being heard saying give them ( the natives) some whiskey,that will settle them down is a good example Quote I Love My Dogs
M.Dancer Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 In a very rare charge in Canada,A RCMP cop in Merrit BC has been charged with torturting a native man whos crime was stealing a bycycleAnd these things wonder why they are hated No shit. I hate bicycle thieves Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Wilber Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 another charged with assault who just happens to be the same cop who put a bullet in the head of a 16 year old kid last year who was sitting in the passenger seat of a non moving stolen car. The assault charge was made after a recommendation by different police force which had investigated the complaint. The "non moving stolen car" was a stolen SUV which was in the process of repeatedly ramming another police car that had blocked the SUV's way and had a police officer in it. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
BayLee Posted February 9, 2007 Author Report Posted February 9, 2007 The "non moving stolen car" was a stolen SUV which was in the process of repeatedly ramming another police car that had blocked the SUV's way and had a police officer in it. Like I said,a non moving stolen vehicle. As for the ramming,that was what this now discredited cop said was his reason for putting a bullet into the head of a 16 year old boy who was just sitting in the passenger seat. This cop freaked and opened fire on a car that was going no where. This is now his 3rd crime. Even the chief of the New West police force is saying he is happy to be rid of this rambo Quote I Love My Dogs
Canadian Blue Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 Canadian Blue asked on the previous page for links to the Ian Bush killing. Anyone who does not know about this very well respected young man being shot twice in the back at the police station where he was taken because he was caught with an open beer in the parking lot of a hockey rink is living in denial. Well, provide a link if it's that much of a terrible miscarriage of justice. How are we supposed to make judgements without knowing the full aspects of the case. Well yes there was actually.I would say where on the tape one cop being heard saying give them ( the natives) some whiskey,that will settle them down is a good example I've heard paramedics, nurses, doctors, and firefighters, all make much worse statements then that. Thus they must all be scum. Most are not.In fact most are just nobodies on a power trip You must have really been happy when Roszko showed it to those nobodies on a power trip. The Mayerthorpe Incident occurred on March 3, 2005 on the property of James Roszko in Rochfort Bridge, northwest of Edmonton near the town of Mayerthorpe, in the Canadian province of Alberta. With a Heckler & Koch 91, a civilian version of a military assault rifle, Roszko shot and killed Royal Canadian Mounted Police Constables Peter Schiemann, Anthony Gordon, Lionide Johnston, and Brock Myrol as the officers were executing a property seizure on the farm. This was the largest casualty toll for the RCMP in a single operation since the Northwest Rebellion in 1885, where three constables were killed. If you wanna go spew hatred about police officers go to copwatch.com, they joke about police officers that died and bitch constantly so you'd enjoy it. Most people here are probably law abiding citizen's, who probably realize that for the most part police officers are decent people with a high stress job. Give us links so we can actually have all or most of the facts. For some reason I have a feeling you're just another one of those people pissed off about a speeding ticket. In my experience, if you don't break the law then you don't have anything to worry about. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
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