jdobbin Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Don Martin's National Post column. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.h...d5-5ca8f2871b8b But there's inspiration for Harper to follow in the startling conversion of Schwarzenegger from action figure to tree-hugger hero. If Harper must follow Americans on policy, perhaps he should steer clear of the White House and take aim at Sacramento.Schwarzenegger's state economy is built on aircraft production, connected by the car and routinely covered in smog blankets, yet it is rapidly becoming a proud and loud American showcase for green technologies. In Canada, the debate is all gloom and doom as partisans denounce each other's failures. The emission reduction targets are impossible to reach. The cost of trying would be catastrophic. Those last guys were worse than the new government. Negotiating beyond Kyoto is pointless without the large emitters like China and India on side. Blah, blah, blah. There's some evidence Harper may be in the early stages of a Schwarzenegger-like conversion on the file. It was barely six months ago the prime minister finally declared that he'd overcome lifelong skepticism about the "inexact science" of climate change to embrace it as mostly fact. We'll see if Harper has a remarkable green conversion or whether he will keep falling short of what Arnie is doing in California. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Wouldn't be the first time....Canada has already "learned" from a California governor....that would be Ronald Reagan and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) over 30 years ago. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jdobbin Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Posted May 31, 2007 Wouldn't be the first time....Canada has already "learned" from a California governor....that would be Ronald Reagan and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) over 30 years ago. Perhaps Bush will learn from Arnie as well or perhaps its too late. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Perhaps Bush will learn from Arnie as well or perhaps its too late. Yes, it's too late for "Arnie"...he will never be President of the United States. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Catchme Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 It is NOT possible for Harper to learn from anyone he is an egomaniac control freak who believes in the Rapture. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Michael Bluth Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 It is NOT possible for Harper to learn from anyone he is an egomaniac control freak who believes in the Rapture. *scary* *scary* *scary* The electorate saw through it in 2006. Hold on to that little chestnut Catchme. Does it help you deal with your rage over Stephen Harper having been PM for going on 16 months without abortion laws having been changed and hell not freezing over? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
noahbody Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 If Harper must follow Americans on policy, perhaps he should steer clear of the White House and take aim at Sacramento. Praise for California. Scorn for the Harper plan. Apples to apples, the targets are very similar. California is targeting to be at 1990 levels in 2020. The Conservatives 2% above 1990 levels by 2020. Both would meet Kyoto targets between 2020 and 2025. Does anybody think Arnie would agree to try to achieve his targets by 2008, just cause? Quote
August1991 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 We'll see if Harper has a remarkable green conversion or whether he will keep falling short of what Arnie is doing in California.Harper knows that the two issues critical to his re-election are the environment and gun control.It is NOT possible for Harper to learn from anyone he is an egomaniac control freak who believes in the Rapture.I guess we can put you down as someone who will never vote for Harper. Fortunately, democracy doesn't require unanimity. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Harper knows that the two issues critical to his re-election are the environment and gun control. Do you mean the environment and Afghanistan? You might be able to through Senate reform into that mix... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
August1991 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 Harper knows that the two issues critical to his re-election are the environment and gun control. Do you mean the environment and Afghanistan? You might be able to through Senate reform into that mix... No. I mean the environment and gun control. These are federal issues in urban Canada and Quebec. They are shibboleths.Gun control is a given for Harper and the Conservatives - it means crime, one of the five priorities. The environment is a cross-over issue. If Harper talks about the environment, then people pay attention. It's like Jack Layton talking about cutting government spending. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Do you mean the environment and Afghanistan?You might be able to through Senate reform into that mix... Hmmm.... to slam the gramatical error, or not to slam it? To slam it would lower me to level of the one in error who has done it with spiteful vigour to others on several occasions. On the other hand I think I am a big enough person to let it slide. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Do you mean the environment and Afghanistan? You might be able to through throw Senate reform into that mix... Hmmm.... to slam the gramatical error, or not to slam it? To slam it would lower me to level of the one in error who has done it with spiteful vigour to others on several occasions. On the other hand I think I am a big enough person to let it slide. Maybe if you didn't just want to be a jack*ss you would have pointed out that it was a spelling error, not a grammatical one. Do you understand the difference between spelling and grammar? Your error was a spelling error. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Maybe if you didn't just want to be a jack*ss you would have pointed out that it was a spelling error, not a grammatical one. Do you understand the difference between spelling and grammar? Your error was a spelling error. Hmm. You used a completely wrong word out of context. Seems grammatical to me. A spelling error would be to say through when you ment though, or threw when you meant throw, but through and throw are way different. I understand you may have trouble being that though sounds like throw and is spelled like through even though through sounds like threw which is spelled like throw. That is a lot to get confused over, but it is far from a simple spelling mistake. A spelling mistake would be like calling a certain former poster Ricki Booby, or Sicki Bobby. I think the Jack@ass comment is uncalled for though, perhaps if I was throwing insulting names at you I would(or is that wood?) understand why you feel the need (kneed?) to do it. But to get so nasty over the above is silly to say the least. Tut tut tut Mr. Bluth. When you have delivered scathing remarks to others who have dared to make a spelling error when you are near, it should only be expected that you would (wood?) get a few comments of your own in return. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 I think the Jack@ass comment is uncalled for though, Why make the post at all then? Is there any possible reason for that post except to start a fight? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 I think the Jack@ass comment is uncalled for though, Why make the post at all then? Is there any possible reason for that post except to start a fight? Why reply? Was there any possible reason to reply in that manner other than to insult me and try to start a fight? Take you own medicine like a good little boy when it is handed to you. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Why reply? Was there any possible reason to reply in that manner other than to insult me and try to start a fight? Take you own medicine like a good little boy when it is handed to you. To defend myself. The best way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Why reply? Was there any possible reason to reply in that manner other than to insult me and try to start a fight? Take you own medicine like a good little boy when it is handed to you. To defend myself. The best way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them. Hmm so now that I have stood up to you once again Ricki Bobby....Whatcha gonna do? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Hmm so now that I have stood up to you once again Ricki Bobby Michael Bluth ....Whatcha gonna do? I am going to ignore you for the rest of the night. You will try and bait me a few more times tonight. Failing at that you will feel frustrated and depressed. You will tell youself you have won some great victory, but deep inside you will know it is false. You will then masturbate to your anime and cry yourself to sleep. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Hmm so now that I have stood up to you once again Ricki Bobby....Whatcha gonna do? I am going to ignore you for the rest of the night. You will try and bait me a few more times tonight. Failing at that you will feel frustrated and depressed. You will tell youself you have won some great victory, but deep inside you will know it is false. You will then masturbate to your anime and cry yourself to sleep. Frustration? Depression? False Victories? Masterbating to anime??? Crying yourself to sleep? Hmmm my Psychiatric "spidey sense" is telling me you have some issues. Anything you want to tell the group? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jdobbin Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Posted June 2, 2007 Hmm so now that I have stood up to you once again Ricki Bobby....Whatcha gonna do? Makes you wonder what would have happened if an IP address was blocked rather than just the identity. Quote
jdobbin Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Posted June 2, 2007 Frustration? Depression? False Victories? Masterbating to anime??? Crying yourself to sleep? Hmmm my Psychiatric "spidey sense" is telling me you have some issues. Anything you want to tell the group? Sounds like a post that should be reported, don't you? Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Frustration? Depression? False Victories? Masterbating to anime??? Crying yourself to sleep? Hmmm my Psychiatric "spidey sense" is telling me you have some issues. Anything you want to tell the group? Sounds like a post that should be reported, don't you? Alas I fear that post revealed that his own personal demons punish him more than reporting the post ever could. tsk tsk. Such a shame. It is sad to see someone with such a heavy burden. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Alas I fear that post revealed that his own personal demons punish him more than reporting the post ever could. tsk tsk. Such a shame. It is sad to see someone with such a heavy burden. At least you have a sense of humour WDW. I'll give you credit for that. Your histrionic friend there is a whole other story. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
jbg Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Hmm so now that I have stood up to you once again Ricki Bobby Michael Bluth ....Whatcha gonna do? I am going to ignore you for the rest of the night. You will try and bait me a few more times tonight. Failing at that you will feel frustrated and depressed. You will tell youself you have won some great victory, but deep inside you will know it is false. You will then masturbate to your anime and cry yourself to sleep. And this has what to do with Harper? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 Alas I fear that post revealed that his own personal demons punish him more than reporting the post ever could. tsk tsk. Such a shame. It is sad to see someone with such a heavy burden.Why don't we all offer a big therapeutic group hug, in the nature of Canadian liberalism and cooperation? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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