Mexicans coming to Canada

[Topaz]

Since the US doesn't want the Mexicans in their country they are telling them that $400.00 will get them from Florida to Canada or Southern Ontario and its just a matter of time before B.C. and Alberta gets their share of them. Right now its costing Windsor, $200,000 daily to keep these people in hotels and the Mayor is asking Harper, where's the money or help send these people back to the US and talk to your friend Bush to stop this on his side of the border! What's your thoughts??

[ScottSA]

Since the US doesn't want the Mexicans in their country they are telling them that $400.00 will get them from Florida to Canada or Southern Ontario and its just a matter of time before B.C. and Alberta gets their share of them. Right now its costing Windsor, $200,000 daily to keep these people in hotels and the Mayor is asking Harper, where's the money or help send these people back to the US and talk to your friend Bush to stop this on his side of the border! What's your thoughts??

My thoughts are that these are the latterday Visigoths crossing the Danube.

[myata]

Yes I heard that story too (on CBC). What really puzzles me is that the thrust of the story was against dishonest immigration firms that promise something that does not exist. Right, except it's not the firms that issue visas, but our own government. And what does exist is inefficient overexpensive immigration system that will be clogged by this latest influx for years now.

[Shakeyhands]

while I would hate to see uncontrolled numbers of Mexicans (or any nationality for that matter) land illegaly, I think this can only strengthen us, we need people who can come here and boost spending and help drive our economy. I've rarely seen a migrant worker here who wasn't working his tail off to support his family, why not invite them to come here to live and work permanently.

[runningdog]

while I would hate to see uncontrolled numbers of Mexicans (or any nationality for that matter) land illegaly, I think this can only strengthen us, we need people who can come here and boost spending and help drive our economy. I've rarely seen a migrant worker here who wasn't working his tail off to support his family, why not invite them to come here to live and work permanently.

ya, great idea. And since they will all work for pennies/hour compared to their middle class Canadian counterpart, business (both large and small) should make a killing. Might depress what one can earn at the tar sands and also kill the middle class, but who cares as long as our corporations prosper, eh?

This is all part of the plan. Like watching a car wreck in slow motion.

[Shakeyhands]

you assume that they will work for pennies... why?

[myata]

you assume that they will work for pennies... why?

Because that's what they used to do in their native countries. In addition to that, some wouldn't scorn at all at going on assistance as it gives lots (i.e., orders of magnitude) more than they used to making at home. For someone used to working their a... off for $30 monthly (with luck), a grand with no strings attached plus maybe access to subsidised housing would indeed appear like paradise on Earth. Should we run a global social assistance program courtesy of canadian taxpayer?

And what about the cost of other social programs? How many pizza, seasonal agriculture, cleaning etc other unqualified jobs does it take to pay a surgeon or teachers' salary?

I'm talking of course of uncontrolled (open doors) immigration. Qualified reasonably skilled (e.g. in the language, profession, trade) people should be welcome to build their lives here. The immigration system should do its best to ensure that those who come have reasonable chance to succeed. Someone has to work on creating reasonable conditions in their own countries. Or, you'll see whole world coming to Canada - in literal sense.

[Guest American Woman]

Since the US doesn't want the Mexicans in their country they are telling them that $400.00 will get them from Florida to Canada or Southern Ontario and its just a matter of time before B.C. and Alberta gets their share of them. Right now its costing Windsor, $200,000 daily to keep these people in hotels and the Mayor is asking Harper, where's the money or help send these people back to the US and talk to your friend Bush to stop this on his side of the border! What's your thoughts??

They're illegal aliens, so I don't see where it is Bush's responsiblity to stop them from going to Canada. They aren't supposed to be in the United States in the first place. Why doesn't Canada just refuse them? Why does Canada accept them, giving them a list of social service organizations to contact for help?

[capricorn]

Why don't they apply through regular channels and queue up with other applicants for immigration?

From which country are they fleeing? What persecution are they fleeing from?

And, should they be given refugee status, will they then be able to sponsor their families to join them?

This whole situation is mind boggling.

[AngusThermopyle]

Why doesn't Canada just refuse them? Why does Canada accept them, giving them a list of social service organizations to contact for help?

Actually thats a question I've been asking about all the illegals we get here. I think the answer lies with appeasment. It's the only way to shut the bleeding heart crowd up. Even that doesn't work though, they never shut up, just demand more sympathy for every mongrel on the planet.

[Guest American Woman]

Why doesn't Canada just refuse them? Why does Canada accept them, giving them a list of social service organizations to contact for help?

Actually thats a question I've been asking about all the illegals we get here. I think the answer lies with appeasment. It's the only way to shut the bleeding heart crowd up. Even that doesn't work though, they never shut up, just demand more sympathy for every mongrel on the planet.

But if the Canadian border patrol is letting the Mexicans in, and giving them advice on where to seek help, they aren't "illegals." They'd be in your country legitimately, wouldn't they?

[geoffrey]

We need the labour out west. Mexicans are fine by me. Hardest workers I've ever seen in the US, willing to do it for pennies. Much rather them than more Newfies coming here and swinging the vote towards interventionist government.

[jennie]

Actually thats a question I've been asking about all the illegals we get here. I think the answer lies with appeasment. It's the only way to shut the bleeding heart crowd up. Even that doesn't work though, they never shut up, just demand more sympathy for every mongrel on the planet.

Angus I have to say that as mongrels go, YOU take the cake!!

[AngusThermopyle]

Thank you, I am a mongrel. Part Scottish, part Irish, with a bit of English thrown in for good measure.

How's this for an idea? We take all the illegals and tell them they can settle on First Nations land. I'm sure you and your brethren would welcome them with open arms.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

I wish immigration were made an easier process. The main reason why there are so many illegals is because legal immigration takes a while and costs money. I'm impressed by those who have the courage to immigrate illegally. It may not be the "right thing to do", but sometimes it's the easiest way to a much better life.

[AngusThermopyle]

I'm impressed by those who have the courage to immigrate illegally. It may not be the "right thing to do", but sometimes it's the easiest way to a much better life.

I'm not, those who circumvent established procedures never impress me when it comes to matters such as these. Why should they they get the fast track when others legitimately follow procedure and have to wait. I don't believe that illegals are the most desirable form of immigrant we could pursue.

The thing about the easiest way to a much better life raises issues as well. Why should we find it acceptable that someone cheats their way to a much better life? Especially if it is at the cost of others? I can see why you state what you state, I just don't see any validity in what you state.

[Higgly]

We need the labour out west. Mexicans are fine by me. Hardest workers I've ever seen in the US, willing to do it for pennies. Much rather them than more Newfies coming here and swinging the vote towards interventionist government.

They've been working in Leamington for years. picking tomatoes and making Heinz Ketchup. The question is whether we can control it and keep track of who they are. I'm all for that.

[Borg]

They've been working in Leamington for years. picking tomatoes and making Heinz Ketchup. The question is whether we can control it and keep track of who they are. I'm all for that.

I support your thoughts - but - Canada admits to not knowing where more than 40,000 illegals oredered deported are.

We cannot control it unless we load them and truck them - out - as soon as rounded up.

We will be like England or France within my life time.

Borg

[M.Dancer]

We will be like England or France within my life time.

Borg

Given my druthers, I'll take France. Oh England is all right and all, what with verdant fields of azure flowers, winchester cathedral and carnaby street, but a man cannot live by bangers and mash alone...give me succulent grapes and mergaz sausages surrounded by aromatic cous cous.....rich creamy brie cheese and chablis.....

[Black Dog]

My thoughts are that these are the latterday Visigoths crossing the Danube.

Posts like this really underline the true agenda of people like ScottSA. When it comes to Muslims, they like to pretend that their haterd for immigrants stems from the alleged incompatibility of Islam and western values. But here we have a group that is, by and large, Christian, conservative and generally hard working, yet they are derided as barbarians. It doesn’t take a PhD to figure out what’s really going on here, does it? It's all about race.

Edited September 26, 2007 by Black Dog

[M.Dancer]

Posts like this really underline the true agenda of people like ScottSA. When it comes to Muslims, they like to pretend that their haterd for immigrants stems from the alleged incompatibility of Islam and western values. But here we have a group that is, by and large, Christian, conservative and generally hard working, yet they are derided as barbarians. It doesn’t take a PhD to figure out what’s really going on here, does it? It's all about race.

It might be about Scott's horrendous grasp of geography and history. He might not be aware of the history in total, prefering the broad stroke of the brush over the artist's fine point pen. The Goths were allowed to cross. (since many goths were not only in Rome's pay, some were also citizens) Promises were exchanged. The Goths surrendered their children as hostages and they were taken away to distant cities. Had the Romans kept their promises, instead of provoking the goths to anger by doing assorted things srting with selling them spoiled food at inflated prices and ending with the wholesale slaughter of the children given up as hostages.

Now whether we take the childen away as hostages or not, I'm not sure if this is what Scott is alluding to....maybe he is giving them faint praise as with the Goths, they ended the most corrupt and cruel regime to have ever existred in it's day....but I doubt that's whjat the Mexicans hae in mind.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure he thinks Windsor is north of Detroit and lake erie flows into lake michigan too....

[fellowtraveller]

What's your thoughts??

I think I could take a dozen or so immediately, maybe 20 more in a few months.

Ship them COD to Alberta.

[Higgly]

I support your thoughts - but - Canada admits to not knowing where more than 40,000 illegals oredered deported are.

We cannot control it unless we load them and truck them - out - as soon as rounded up.

We will be like England or France within my life time.

Borg

Well maybe if our wine gets better, our girls get prettier and we all start getting a month off every summer. Don't knock the British. You can get good curry there now.

By the way, where would you truck them to? You might have a problem getting them across the US border.

[Moxie]

I think I could take a dozen or so immediately, maybe 20 more in a few months.

Ship them COD to Alberta.

Local farmers are suffering from a sever shortage of harvesters and pickers (apples, grapes etc.) if they come into the country legally with work visas than yes they'd be welcome. I have no patence with people crawling into this country illegally.

[ScottSA]

It might be about Scott's horrendous grasp of geography and history. He might not be aware of the history in total, prefering the broad stroke of the brush over the artist's fine point pen. The Goths were allowed to cross. (since many goths were not only in Rome's pay, some were also citizens) Promises were exchanged. The Goths surrendered their children as hostages and they were taken away to distant cities. Had the Romans kept their promises, instead of provoking the goths to anger by doing assorted things srting with selling them spoiled food at inflated prices and ending with the wholesale slaughter of the children given up as hostages.

Now whether we take the childen away as hostages or not, I'm not sure if this is what Scott is alluding to....maybe he is giving them faint praise as with the Goths, they ended the most corrupt and cruel regime to have ever existred in it's day....but I doubt that's whjat the Mexicans hae in mind.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure he thinks Windsor is north of Detroit and lake erie flows into lake michigan too....

I'm talking about the Visigoths crossing the Danube in the 4th century, and comparing it to the legal and illegal immigration into North America. I have no idea what you're talking about. Nor what Black Dog is talking about, although his amazing intuitive skills have helped him fathom that I'm talking about race, as I have been for weeks. But kudos to him for his epiphany, I guess.