scribblet Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Posted August 29, 2007 But also ignores simple facts that state the obvious. Many retiring baby boomer's capitalized on the housing market, made a fortune, and than went of to the sunny enclaves of France, Spain and Australia. While this article tries to present Brits as being xenophobic, the reality is they are flocking en masse to beach front properties near which curiously have a view of Morocco on a clear day. May I suggest a quick trip to the towns surrounding Marbella all along the Costa del Sol (Puerto Banus et al.) and the only Spaniards you will encounter are those working in the grocery stores. Rule Britannia indeed. I'm not aware of that, I thought a lot were going to Australia and France. I know a klot buy holiday places in Spain and some for retirement http://www.selectia.com/news/view.asp?id=7 I'd love a quick trip to Spain and other area, but its not in my budget right now...thanks for the tip anyway. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
M.Dancer Posted August 29, 2007 Report Posted August 29, 2007 I'm not aware of that, I thought a lot were going to Australia and France. I know a klot buy holiday places in Spain and some for retirementhttp://www.selectia.com/news/view.asp?id=7 I'd love a quick trip to Spain and other area, but its not in my budget right now...thanks for the tip anyway. My aunt has a villa in Luxembourg and they intend to spend their retirement there. They have been broken into so many times in the UK that teir home insurance has skyrocketted. Bars on the window, alarms, video cameras are no deterent. Smash a door, grab the TV and siver and thgey're gone. And yes, they live in the white country, not the city. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
marcinmoka Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 I'm not aware of that, I thought a lot were going to Australia and France Considering that France has exceedingly by and far the largest Muslim population in Europe, especially in the south where Brits are retiring, Islamophobia can be certainly ruled out. I remember a nearby town in Gascony which was bought out by a consortium of retirees. I mean the whole town, church, athletic center, bakers, etc. And furthermore, unless you are making a six figure salary in the Canary Wharf, would you want to spend your whole life depressed by a tremendous vitamin D deficiency? Quote " Influence is far more powerful than control"
Leafless Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 And on what premise are you assuming that new arrivals do not share your views? Or are you just extrapolating a few far off cases as being representative of the whole. I have no idea what new immigrant arrivals think. All I know is they all head off primarily to GTA or Ottawa in Ontario or British Columbia to be with people of their own culture in specific locations. Now there is a black mark right off the bat. You must already know about the stats on that one. But I must ask on what privied information are you implying that immigrants are not loyal to Canada, nor beneficial to our national objectives (though I can certainly gather your view is not based on economic arguments). Privied?? No I would say ethnic immigrants are not integrating properly and choose to live in the same general areas as others of the the same race, segregated from the general population. This is bad considering the effects of political movements towards their own cultural interest. They are not adapting to Canadian lifestyle and many live like they previously from the old country they originate from. So how can one possibly be loyal to Canada when the only real interest in these ethnics minds is the advancement of their cultural and political interest similar to Quebec. Worst of all, they are protected and encouraged to do as they please by charter rights and freedoms. In fact, what are these "Nationalist" objectives you speak of?* I was under the impression it was to create a nation where I can live safely, I can prosper, I can marry who I want, I can worship anything I want. Unfortunately, I can not see how either Quebec, nor Immigration is an impediment towards these goals. National values are the citizens country having the same values coast to coast creating a unified Canada. Now you said, "I was under the impression it was to create a nation where I can live safely, I can prosper, I can marry who I want, I can worship anything I want." How can you accomplish anything without a functioning military, a military Mr. Harper has partially salvaged from the destructive Liberal policies, a basic requirement to any country. How can you live safely when national values is split in three, ROC, Quebec and ethnic immigrants? You can't marry anyone you want when especially ethnics who bring to this country not only their religion/politics but their ancient beliefs relating to marrying anyone out of their race. Does it bother you when the preamble to the Canadian charter of rights and Freedoms reads, "Whereas Canada is founded upon the principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law." It must be, because ethnics are responsible for removing Christian beliefs and traditions from the classrooms of the nation. Could you elaborate on these "true" goals? Canada no longer has values or goals relating to a unified Canada since the liberalization of Canada, i.e. the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, that should be renamed, 'Viva La France and the hell with the English values, customs and traditions'. Quote
Leafless Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 My aunt has a villa in Luxembourg and they intend to spend their retirement there. They have been broken into so many times in the UK that teir home insurance has skyrocketted. Bars on the window, alarms, video cameras are no deterent. Smash a door, grab the TV and siver and thgey're gone. And yes, they live in the white country, not the city. The U.K. crime rate relating to 'breaking and entry' is close to Canada's 'B&E' crime rate. "Breaking and entering (per 100,000 people) Denmark 2,412 Australia 1,962 Germany 1,918 United Kingdom 1,627 Sweden 1,555 Canada 1,386 United States 1,309 Spain 1,232 Finland 1,008 Luxembourg 984 Switzerland 976 Austria 910 Ireland 855 France 674 Belgium 623 Greece 257 Japan 211 Norway 93 So living in Luxembourg compared to the UK she increases her odds by approx. 643 per 100,000 people from not being hit by a 'break and entry, which equates to not very much. I think mostly though some neighbourhoods are extremely bad compared to others and this makes all the difference in the world and this is where statistics of this sort fail from reflecting large discrepancies relating to this sort of crime. This is very unfortunate though for some people through no fault of their own are forced to endure this type of crime on an ongoing basis due to their inability to afford better accommodation. Quote
jester Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 As an ex prison guard I can let you into a secret, If you have been burgled once they will come back.... 1-- They already know how to get in your house, and they will tell other burglers how 2-- They know you have new stuff as they stole your old stuff. The Labour government in Britain is run by the Scottish not the English...... Quote
scribblet Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Posted August 30, 2007 Considering that France has exceedingly by and far the largest Muslim population in Europe, especially in the south where Brits are retiring, Islamophobia can be certainly ruled out. Or maybe they have more faith in the ability of France to remain secular. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
marcinmoka Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Or maybe they have more faith in the ability of France to remain secular. Plausible. However, after having observed these "jovial" brits in their adopted environment, I feel that their main concern with secularism per se goes no further than the assurance it provides that the local pub taps filled with the "amber nectar" will not be shut down due to puritan values. Quotidian politics seems to be of very little concern for many. ------------------------------- I have no idea what new immigrant arrivals think. Yet strangely: So how can one possibly be loyal to Canada when the only real interest in these ethnics minds is the advancement of their cultural and political interest similar to Quebec. Quote " Influence is far more powerful than control"
Leafless Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 Yet strangely: So how can one possibly be loyal to Canada when the only real interest in these ethnics minds is the advancement of their cultural and political interest similar to Quebec. So what am I supposed to do? Make a never ending list of what new arrivals ethnic immigrants might be thinking when they hop of the plane? And yes definitely, what I quoted could very well be up and forefront in the minds of new ethnic arrivals. Quote
White Doors Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 As an ex prison guard I can let you into a secret, If you have been burgled once they will come back....1-- They already know how to get in your house, and they will tell other burglers how 2-- They know you have new stuff as they stole your old stuff. The Labour government in Britain is run by the Scottish not the English...... I was burgled once and they didn't come back. I don't think your secret is any good at all. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Leafless Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 I was burgled once and they didn't come back.I don't think your secret is any good at all. What jester said is true in many cases of breaking and entering. As an ex prison guard I can let you into a secret, If you have been burgled once they will come back....1-- They already know how to get in your house, and they will tell other burglers how 2-- They know you have new stuff as they stole your old stuff. This is especially true in neighbourhoods with a high crime rate relating to 'braking and entering' as these criminals keep tabs on you at all times waiting for the opportune time for another hit. I have lived in this type of neighbourhood and have known people burglarized so many times that they have virtually nothing left in the house. Besides this, after the first burglary your current insurance companies will probably drop you as being 'high risk' or no explanation at all and more than likely no other insurance company will insure you against theft. Quote
jennie Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 I place no emphasis on origins including my own because ever since birth my national identity in this country is being a Canadian, loyal to Canadian national objectives and Canadian ideologies. I place absolutely no importance on my families previous origins. Canadians have fought long and hard to achieve their personal economic success only to have it destroyed by ABNORMAL ethnic mass immigration. It would be nice if the federal government could clearly explain in a coherent manner, WHO is responsible for forcing mass ethnic immigration on Canada and WHY, knowing full well third world immigration would be problematic and divisive here in Canada. I would sooner give my soul to Americans rather than ethnics any day if that is the choice I am left with. Well let's see ... Cambodians were forced out of their homeland and came to Canada, same with Somalians, many Afghans, Iraquis, Rwandans, El Salvadorans ... tell me who is forcing these people out of their homelands ... would it be ... the multinational corporations of the war industry? Yes, I think so. Full circle! You are a full blown racist, aren't you? I think you should be required to answer the question about your ethnic originas so we can explain to you why you are inferior to the wave of immigration that immediately preceded you to Canada, as suggested. Where DO you draw your line at who are acceptable immigrants? The Dukabors escaping persecution? The Jews escaping Hitler? The Italians escaping Mussolini? The Koreans escaping the Korean war? The Vietnamese escaping Vietnam war? The Somalians escaping civil war? Where is your colour line oh racist one? Enlighten us. Quote If you are claiming a religious exemption from the hate law, please say so up front. If you have no religious exemption, please keep hateful thoughts to yourself. Thank you. MY Canada includes Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
White Doors Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 What jester said is true in many cases of breaking and entering. This is especially true in neighbourhoods with a high crime rate relating to 'braking and entering' as these criminals keep tabs on you at all times waiting for the opportune time for another hit. I have lived in this type of neighbourhood and have known people burglarized so many times that they have virtually nothing left in the house. Besides this, after the first burglary your current insurance companies will probably drop you as being 'high risk' or no explanation at all and more than likely no other insurance company will insure you against theft. I got two 80lb dogs after the first one.. could be the reason why they didn;t come back. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
White Doors Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 Cambodians were forced out of their homeland and came to Canada, same with Somalians, many Afghans, Iraquis, Rwandans, El Salvadorans ... tell me who is forcing these people out of their homelands ... would it be ... the multinational corporations of the war industry? Yes, I think so. Could be just me, but I thought the Cambodians fled the Khmer Rouge? Weren't they a communist militia and then the government? weird... strange even Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Leafless Posted September 2, 2007 Report Posted September 2, 2007 Well let's see ... Cambodians were forced out of their homeland and came to Canada, same with Somalians, many Afghans, Iraquis, Rwandans, El Salvadorans So they just happened to come to Canada...PLEASE. You mean they filled out an application and were allowed to come to Canada...IF ACCEPTED. ... tell me who is forcing these people out of their homelands I don't think this is any of my buisness. Why don't you file a human rights complaint with the U.N. and have them forward their findings to world countries for whatever reason. would it be ... the multinational corporations of the war industry? Yes, I think so. I am not in the positon to judge that.You are a full blown racist, aren't you? I am certainly not but it sounds like you are a full blown bigot. I think you should be required to answer the question about your ethnic originas so we can explain to you why you are inferior to the wave of immigration that immediately preceded you to Canada, as suggested. I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Where DO you draw your line at who are acceptable immigrants? I don't draw any line on who are acceptable immigrants. What I am concerned about is my place in Canadian society as part of the majority White English speaking, Christian Canadians, who have primarily built this country, with millions of other immigrants who have adapted to the ways of the majority but now is being threatened by mass ethnic immigration who don't necessarily feel they have to adapt to anyones society. Quote
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