wyly Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 why not? no tsunamis up there oh wait there is a critcal earthquake zone that runs through the arctic basin...if there are earthquakes or undersea slides then there are tsunamis... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
GostHacked Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 why not? no tsunamis up there If it floats, it can sink. Quote
jbg Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Russia to build articial climate city in arctic (thread title)What does "articial" mean? Is that a word only in Canadian? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
olp1fan Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 What does "articial" mean? Is that a word only in Canadian? artificial but i know youre just trollin Quote
jbg Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 artificial but i know youre just trollin How do you "know" that? I am from the U.S., not Canada and I have no idea what languages you speak up there. I always thought it was French and Canadian. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
guyser Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 How do you "know" that? Same way the rest of us know? I am from the U.S., not Canada and I have no idea what languages you speak up there. I always thought it was French and Canadian. After hearing that...er reading that tired old canard about a thousand times.....it was bemusing the first time. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) If it floats, it can sink. Most likely, that's the whole idea! It would be a safety feature. Consider that the recent Japanese disaster came about not from inadequate containment of the radioactive core but from a catastrophic loss of cooling, which then caused explosions that THEN released radioactive emissions! No doubt the Russians have learned a thing or two since Chernobyl. If they design things properly, if something goes wrong you end up with a sealed lump of nasty stuff sunk in deep, cold Arctic water. This would keep it too cold to compromise its container. I like the idea! Especially since they intend to operate the reactors for only a relatively short time anyway, switching over to fuel from the gas and oil they are farming. Edited October 26, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) No doubt the Russians have learned a thing or two since Chernobyl. No doubt, but learned and applied are two separate items.If they design things properly, I aint betting they will. Edited October 26, 2011 by guyser Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 The Americans already have such nuclear powered floating cities of 5,000...they call them "aircraft carriers". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 The Americans already have such nuclear powered floating cities of 5,000...they call them "aircraft carriers". Key word in bold. Not to mention youse guys dont like to see them sink. Big difference. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Key word in bold. Otay.... Not to mention youse guys dont like to see them sink. We just sunk one to make an artificial (not articial) reef. Big difference. Floating or sinking? I guess...have done both many times and lived to tell about it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 We just sunk one to make an artificial (not articial) reef. Not with an operating nuclear plant... Quote
olp1fan Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 The Americans already have such nuclear powered floating cities of 5,000...they call them "aircraft carriers". but yours is not a dome with a controlled temperature do your cariers have malls? sports stadium? Quote
Post To The Left Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 but yours is not a dome with a controlled temperature do your cariers have malls? sports stadium? Aircraft Carriers are equipped with gymnasiums, movie theatres, and several cafeterias. As part of the telecast, ESPN will televise a special halftime entertainment show and post-game concert organized by Morale Entertainment Foundation. Specific coverage plans for the Carrier Classic 11-11-11, featuring a rematch of the 2009 National Championship won by North Carolina, are being finalized. A basketball court with seating for approximately 7,000 fans will be constructed on the flight deck. The game will be played below the flight deck in the event of rain. Tickets will not be for sale. http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/05/12/game_deck_aircraft_carrier/ Quote
olp1fan Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Aircraft Carriers are equipped with gymnasiums, movie theatres, and several cafeterias. http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/05/12/game_deck_aircraft_carrier/ is it in the arctic? Quote
Rue Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) If you will excuse the pun there us a new "cold" war with Russia. That is probably one answer. Another answer would be many nations want to enforce sovereignty in the Artic to establish rights to accessing oil. With the warming of the globe and much more access to the Arctic from melting ice, corporations want access to oil and other natural resources. International law is such that if you don't maintai control of your land through constant demonstration, others gain rights to it. Drones are one way to show the flag and sovereign rights to maintain sovereignty displays of control. Right now with Putin as unpredictable as he is and tensions with the US and Canada over Ukraine not to mention tensions with Sweden and Finland over the Ukraine, the cold war has been re-activated. Britain and Norway also have oil concerns up top as well. Derek on this forum is the military weapons guy, maybe he has some stuff to share on the capability of these Drones and why they may be preferable to jet fighter patrols. From what I understand they are cheaper for one and can do more things if its just surveilance you want and not actual dog fighting. I think we are moving to an age of drones replacing a lot of former piloted missions. I can't see how they would replace certain military functions but surveillance, yes. Edited August 12, 2015 by Rue Quote
waldo Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 Derek on this forum is the military weapons guy, maybe he has some stuff to share on the capability of these Drones and why they may be preferable to jet fighter patrols. From what I understand they are cheaper for one and can do more things if its just surveilance you want and not actual dog fighting. I think we are moving to an age of drones replacing a lot of former piloted missions. I can't see how they would replace certain military functions but surveillance, yes. oh no you don't... that just messes with the Harper & D2.0's F-35 folly! Harper speaks a good Arctic sovereignty game... but what's he done so far other than go up for his annual photo-op routine? That scaled down Polar Hawk seems like a good surveillance/economic fit for DND... that must be why it's gone no where! as for practical scientific use of drones in the Arctic see flavours of the Manta UAV (which also could be a surveilance-type option)... studying Arctic ice melt, ice reflectivity, water temperatures, air-water gas exchange at the sea-surface microlayer, etc.. . Quote
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