Oleg Bach Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 That's quite the sense of humour you have Oleg... Jimmy thought it was funny. He had a good sense of humor also..even though it was possible that this could be his fate. I really like this man - He reminded my of a deposed emperor of old. The poor guy was so worried one day that he began to faint. I took his hand and assisted him...it was disturbing that our immigration policy is such that if you are from the Pacific rim and you steal a bunch of cash from the peasants you are welcomed here to live in Markham and drive your Mercedes through the Tim Hortons on your way to engage in the useless I T industry...where as a man like "Jimmy" who has a wonderful and natural Christ like heart - is given a hard time and stressed to the point where he is about to topple over...I guess the powers that be want cut throat Asians in their employ and Jimmy is useless to them. Quote
g_bambino Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 Why have laws?Just get a big enough mob and then you can ignore the courts at will. It works for some First Nations. Why wouldn't other minority groups follow their successful example? Quote
Wilber Posted January 10, 2008 Report Posted January 10, 2008 The plot thickens Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 The plot thickens Yeah...saw the Global interview with both his doctor and his acupuncturist. Apparently he's 'getting better' from being a quadriplegic. They were quick to add that it was due to his staying in Canada. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. ---Alexander the Great Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Yeah...saw the Global interview with both his doctor and his acupuncturist. Apparently he's 'getting better' from being a quadriplegic. They were quick to add that it was due to his staying in Canada. Ya, but what's all this talk we have been hearing for months about him having an aneurysm, a stroke and being on dialysis. Someones telling a fib. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Ya, but what's all this talk we have been hearing for months about him having an aneurysm, a stroke and being on dialysis. Someones telling a fib. Well it shows where this community's loyalties are...and priorities are. No wonder our justice system couldn't 'find the real killers' when it came to Air India. Not exactly a lot of help forthcoming... ---------------------------------------------------- All the people like us are we, and everyone else is they. ---Rudyard Kipling Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Michael Bluth Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Well it shows where this community's loyalties are...and priorities are. No wonder our justice system couldn't 'find the real killers' when it came to Air India. Not exactly a lot of help forthcoming...---------------------------------------------------- All the people like us are we, and everyone else is they. ---Rudyard Kipling Maybe they are golfing with OJ! Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
DogOnPorch Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 It was on purpose... ------------------------------- If there wasn't no fight, there wasn't no weekend. ---O. J. Simpson Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
normanchateau Posted January 12, 2008 Report Posted January 12, 2008 He's been given a 60 day reprieve while the Feds review his case. It's interesting to note who granted him the August reprieve and the circumstances which triggered the granting of the reprieve. Let's hope that other illegal immigrants don't view this as the preferred method not to be deported from Canada. Here's the story: "A paralysed refugee claimant can stay in Canada for another 60 days after Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day verbally ordered a stay of his deportation. A massive rally set for Sunday in support of Laibar Singh, 48, was also cancelled after a conversation Saturday between the minister and Singh's chief supporters. Day announced the reprieve Saturday during a phone call with Conservative MP Nina Grewal and two Singh supporters who were in Grewal's office, listening on speakerphone. Day asked if the rally would be stopped if the deportation order was put on hold, said Harpal Singh Nagra, a spokesman for the South Asian Human Rights Group. "The minister told us, 'Cancel the rally and I assure you he won't be deported.'" But Radio India owner Maninder Gill, who was also in the room, said it was Grewal who suggested the rally would be cancelled if Day deferred the deportation. "She said, 'If you guys are going to continue the rally, then they [the CBSA] are not going to make a decision,'" said Gill. Only then did Day speak, said Gill. "He said, 'If I overtake the decision, can you stop the rally?'" said Gill. "I said, 'If you listen to our request, there will be a huge response from the community, and they will know that Mr. Singh will stay in Canada.'" http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/we...43e&k=85673 Nina Grewal has been a remarkably silent MP. Too bad it took lobbying to prevent the deportation of an illegal immigrant to break the silence. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 It's interesting to note who granted him the August reprieve and the circumstances which triggered the granting of the reprieve. Let's hope that other illegal immigrants don't view this as the preferred method not to be deported from Canada. Here's the story:"A paralysed refugee claimant can stay in Canada for another 60 days after Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day verbally ordered a stay of his deportation. A massive rally set for Sunday in support of Laibar Singh, 48, was also cancelled after a conversation Saturday between the minister and Singh's chief supporters. Day announced the reprieve Saturday during a phone call with Conservative MP Nina Grewal and two Singh supporters who were in Grewal's office, listening on speakerphone. Day asked if the rally would be stopped if the deportation order was put on hold, said Harpal Singh Nagra, a spokesman for the South Asian Human Rights Group. "The minister told us, 'Cancel the rally and I assure you he won't be deported.'" But Radio India owner Maninder Gill, who was also in the room, said it was Grewal who suggested the rally would be cancelled if Day deferred the deportation. "She said, 'If you guys are going to continue the rally, then they [the CBSA] are not going to make a decision,'" said Gill. Only then did Day speak, said Gill. "He said, 'If I overtake the decision, can you stop the rally?'" said Gill. "I said, 'If you listen to our request, there will be a huge response from the community, and they will know that Mr. Singh will stay in Canada.'" http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/we...43e&k=85673 Nina Grewal has been a remarkably silent MP. Too bad it took lobbying to prevent the deportation of an illegal immigrant to break the silence. Hey if we deport one crippled up guy that is in diapers - imagine the signal this will send to the Americans who have 30 million illegals as we speak - Canada is going to look like the toughest kid on the block - wow! I am so proud..maybe the Americans can come up and take a lesson or two on how to maintain a proper boarder. Apparently the Americans are getting soft - or maybe they are just waiting to merge up this way and sell us off to the crooks in Mexico - amazing who much power the Mexican established Mafia has - to invade the most powerful nation on earth with out firing a shot.....I say wheel the chair to the end of a peir and see if the guy can swim...and if he floats - we will deport him - if he sinks - we will deport him - time to act like real tough men! Quote
normanchateau Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 Hey if we deport one crippled up guy that is in diapers - imagine the signal this will send to the Americans who have 30 million illegals as we speak - Canada is going to look like the toughest kid on the block - wow! I am so proud..maybe the Americans can come up and take a lesson or two on how to maintain a proper boarder. Apparently the Americans are getting soft - or maybe they are just waiting to merge up this way and sell us off to the crooks in Mexico - amazing who much power the Mexican established Mafia has - to invade the most powerful nation on earth with out firing a shot.....I say wheel the chair to the end of a peir and see if the guy can swim...and if he floats - we will deport him - if he sinks - we will deport him - time to act like real tough men! So we should not deport illegal immigrants if they develop health problems. Is that your point? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 So we should not deport illegal immigrants if they develop health problems. Is that your point? No - that was not my point. The greatness of a nation is judged by how well we care for our weakest members. You could argue that he is not a legal member. So this debate flows into the area of legalism and not moralism. The man is weak and sickly - You may ask yourself that question also. Would you refuse to give a buck to a beggar because he is not legal in the fact he does not pay taxes? We are dealing with this as a legal issue..which is fine - but our thinking is overpowered by the fog of racism - we just don't like him because he is a brown. There is a certain amount of hypocracy here - we open our doors to all races - usually to the ones that will come and do the menial tasks of clean toilets...seeing he is not capable of cleaning a toilet we are tossing him out. It's up to you how you want to deal with this person - either show mercy or not. If you must deport illegals who are infesting our medical system and not paying for the care..then we had better go to the west end of Toronto and do a search of all the hospitals where established immigrant have brought their illegal relatives for care - we could probably find at least a few hundred we could deport - now that would cost the liberals a lot of votes. - and would cause great contempt for the federal government also - we bring in the young working children as immigrant - so we may just be stuck with their illegal aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters and cousins and so on. The immigration policy is what it is - so we are stuck with the side effects. What did the government expect - for immigrant families to abandon extended family. I am sure if you deport this guy - fear of more deportations will result - hence the protestors. Quote
normanchateau Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 We are dealing with this as a legal issue..which is fine - but our thinking is overpowered by the fog of racism - we just don't like him because he is a brown. What evidence do you have for your statement that we don't like him because he's brown? That may describe some people who want him deported but I see no evidence that it describes most or even many. As the local media have pointed out numerous times, all of his family including four adult children live in India: "Singh has children and family in India who could care for him, he said, and the money that the Sikh community here has vowed to raise for his medical care could go a lot farther in India, where health care has reached Western standards." http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/we...05-c93f025ad1b3 If the Sikh community is willing to pay all his health care costs and his family all live in India, why should he remain in Canada and what message would this send to future illegal immigrants? As the link I provided implies, a majority of Sikhs in the local community also believe that Laibar Singh should be deported. Singh is now in sanctuary in his third temple having been eventually forced out by his former supporters from the previous two temples. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 If the Sikh community is willing to pay all his health care costs and his family all live in India, why should he remain in Canada and what message would this send to future illegal immigrants? Come on in! As long as you can get a big enough crowd you don't have to worry about laws. Democracy?! Hell no, mob rules. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Sully Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 No - that was not my point. The greatness of a nation is judged by how well we care for our weakest members. You could argue that he is not a legal member. So this debate flows into the area of legalism and not moralism. The man is weak and sickly - You may ask yourself that question also. Would you refuse to give a buck to a beggar because he is not legal in the fact he does not pay taxes? We are dealing with this as a legal issue..which is fine - but our thinking is overpowered by the fog of racism - we just don't like him because he is a brown. There is a certain amount of hypocracy here - we open our doors to all races - usually to the ones that will come and do the menial tasks of clean toilets...seeing he is not capable of cleaning a toilet we are tossing him out. It's up to you how you want to deal with this person - either show mercy or not. If you must deport illegals who are infesting our medical system and not paying for the care..then we had better go to the west end of Toronto and do a search of all the hospitals where established immigrant have brought their illegal relatives for care - we could probably find at least a few hundred we could deport - now that would cost the liberals a lot of votes. - and would cause great contempt for the federal government also - we bring in the young working children as immigrant - so we may just be stuck with their illegal aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters and cousins and so on. The immigration policy is what it is - so we are stuck with the side effects. What did the government expect - for immigrant families to abandon extended family. I am sure if you deport this guy - fear of more deportations will result - hence the protestors. Canada is a country with finite resources, both financially and medically, read again Oleg, FINITE. As far as I can see Canada is not in the best position to free up any medical care for this gentlemen who is ILLEGALLY remaining in Canada. I am sure that even if his community pays for his medical treatment, it will NOT be a medical doctor or hospital bed from India that cares for him. IF this man has any medical issues, it will be Canadian doctors and Canadian hospital beds that will pulled from the system to tend to him, which is the exact opposite of what I want. Maybe Oleg if you do not mind your family waiting for treatment behind Laibar, thats something that you are ok with, I am not. Canadians and would be immigrants who are legal in Canada, should always be the sole focus of our medical system, period. Of course as soon as the Legal approach does not work, people start to grasp at straws and then claim that racism comes into to play, awwww boo hoo. Well here is a little challenge to you Ole to do a little research, I did a little bit of research (this might surprise you) and found out that "White would be immigrants" have been removed from Canada under deportation orders before. Man those racists in the immigration system make ya sick eh, think of it, no one is safe anymore. As for your beggar on the street, whats your point, we are talking solely of Laibar Singh right, was the beggar Laibar Singh, if he was please deport him. See the funny thing is, we would not have this conversation if Laibar Singh met Canadian requirements to stay in Canada. Quote
Moxie Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 Come on in!As long as you can get a big enough crowd you don't have to worry about laws. Democracy?! Hell no, mob rules. It's enough to make one ill, pandering to an illegal alien for votes. Ship him out, bye bye have a nice life in India Singh. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
normanchateau Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 It's enough to make one ill, pandering to an illegal alien for votes. Yet that's exactly what MP Nina Grewal and Cabinet Minister Stockwell Day did: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/we...43e&k=85673 Quote
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