jester Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 Lot of silly arguments here but it sure gives your gut a wrench when you realize that you caught a bus from those shelters in the front of the picture in Glasgow. New experience for me, hard to explain. Reality intruding perhaps? "It can't happen here" is always the accepted mantra before it does. Now I know the feeling my Irish cousins lived with for years. They told some horrendous stories of what the almighty British army did to them. They had the bad luck to be Catholic in Northern Ireland. No you don't know what your Irish cousins lived with. What horrendous things did the army do to them then, let me guess --well nothing really but they know a man who was told something by someone who heard it from someone who read it in a paper-- they think......... Quote
Drea Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 On CNN last night -- Christina Amamanammmmpoor (sp LOL) A really good program about Muslims in Britain. Did anyone else see it? There are radicals that is for sure. But it does seem that some really levelheaded moderates are finally speaking out. Reaching out to young muslims. ...then so are the radicals "reaching out". One radical was arrested. All of them that spew hatred should be arrested. There was this muslim architect who had designed the largest mosque outside the middle east and wants to build it in London. It will hold 40,000 people. All mosques/churches/synagogues/temples should be open to anyone who wants to pray to god. This new building could be a "coming together" of religions. After all, they ALL worship the same "god", why not let anyone pray in any mosque/church/synagogue/temple? Would be a good way to "keep an eye on one another". *As a militant atheist, I would like to see religion wiped off the earth completely but barring that I would have them all join forces and pray together. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
margrace Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 Lot of silly arguments here but it sure gives your gut a wrench when you realize that you caught a bus from those shelters in the front of the picture in Glasgow. New experience for me, hard to explain. Reality intruding perhaps? "It can't happen here" is always the accepted mantra before it does. Now I know the feeling my Irish cousins lived with for years. They told some horrendous stories of what the almighty British army did to them. They had the bad luck to be Catholic in Northern Ireland. No you don't know what your Irish cousins lived with. What horrendous things did the army do to them then, let me guess --well nothing really but they know a man who was told something by someone who heard it from someone who read it in a paper-- they think......... No I visit there, they are first cousins, so rather reliable. You have no idea what you are talking about, until you have been there and seen what the atrocities were you are absolutely clueless. Quote
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 No I visit there, they are first cousins, so rather reliable. You have no idea what you are talking about, until you have been there and seen what the atrocities were you are absolutely clueless. Regal us with some of these alleged atrocities. Make us cluefull. Quote
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 On CNN last night -- Christina Amamanammmmpoor (sp LOL) A really good program about Muslims in Britain. Did anyone else see it? There are radicals that is for sure. But it does seem that some really levelheaded moderates are finally speaking out. Reaching out to young muslims. ...then so are the radicals "reaching out". One radical was arrested. All of them that spew hatred should be arrested. There was this muslim architect who had designed the largest mosque outside the middle east and wants to build it in London. It will hold 40,000 people. All mosques/churches/synagogues/temples should be open to anyone who wants to pray to god. This new building could be a "coming together" of religions. After all, they ALL worship the same "god", why not let anyone pray in any mosque/church/synagogue/temple? Would be a good way to "keep an eye on one another". *As a militant atheist, I would like to see religion wiped off the earth completely but barring that I would have them all join forces and pray together. The trouble with the moderates who are allegedly 'reaching out' is that on the one hand they claim it's all a small number of radicals, but on the other they push with all their might by directly exploiting the terror. Even the British government is finally waking up to the good cop/bad cop routine. It goes like this: Someone blows something up or tries. Great outcry from the Muslim community, usually not about Islamic terrorism, but about the poor Muslims who have to live in terror lest someone say something rude to them. Then the alleged moderates "reject" terrorism, but warn that it will happen again and again unless X happens (change in foreign policy etc). In effect, they are using blackmail...rarely if ever has an allegedly "moderate" Islamic leader simply and unequivalently condemned terrorism. The big mosque should be shut down before it even gets off the ground. Building it is tantamount to allowing the Reichstag with a giant swastika to be built and then sitting back with a shiteating grin celebrating the "vibrant diversity" that allowed it. Quote
Drea Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 You obviously did not see the program. yes moderate leaders in Britain are speaking out. They had teen muslims in a pool tournament with British police. Brought them together in a fun way that made both sides realize they are all human beings that can laugh and some can't sink a ball for the life of them. The teens won the tourney. I bet they go home with more respect for the police than they had and what more can we do? Kill them all? At least they are trying. In the face of radical Islam, trying is something to be lauded not spat upon. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 You obviously did not see the program.yes moderate leaders in Britain are speaking out. They had teen muslims in a pool tournament with British police. Brought them together in a fun way that made both sides realize they are all human beings that can laugh and some can't sink a ball for the life of them. The teens won the tourney. I bet they go home with more respect for the police than they had and what more can we do? Kill them all? At least they are trying. In the face of radical Islam, trying is something to be lauded not spat upon. Sure it is. And pool tournaments are great. Perhaps the Weimar republic ought to have sponsored pool tournaments between brownshirts and Jews too. I'm sure it would have made a world of difference. About as much world of difference as a pimple on the backside of an elephant. Quote
Drea Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 Again What would you have people do? Kill them all? You have to start somewhere. perhaps you should have watched the program rather than sit there and spout that "nothing will do any good anyway". What a defeatist attitude! btw What is a brownshirt? Brownies wear brown coloured shirts..... All religions are messed up and should be erradicated IMO. But barring that, we should at the very frigging least, laud those who TRY. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 AgainWhat would you have people do? Kill them all? You have to start somewhere. perhaps you should have watched the program rather than sit there and spout that "nothing will do any good anyway". What a defeatist attitude! btw What is a brownshirt? Brownies wear brown coloured shirts..... All religions are messed up and should be erradicated IMO. But barring that, we should at the very frigging least, laud those who TRY. Once upon a time, Brownshirts were little girls who sold cookies. Then one day an evil wolf by the name of herr schicklegrubber answered the door of a house, invited a little girl in...and so began the Third Reich. All religions don't blow things up. Islam does. Bit of a distinction there. And no, I don't think we should laud those efforts. CNN, in its perpetual search for "balance" managed to dig up this inconsequential effort and laud it as if it actually means something. It doesn't, and its worse than doing nothing because it acts as a placebo, making everyone think there is a solution that's easy and caring and sharing. The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. Leave it to ferment back in third world shitholes if it wants, as long as it doesn't start causing trouble here, but western governments have to take control of this situation before it takes control of them. Drastic? Probably, but it's going to happen anyway, eventually; so it might as well happen before anyone more gets killed. This is not a fad that will fade away on its own. It's an ideology. Quote
Moxie Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 It's ironic that Muslims can rant, rail, riot and scream how much they hate us in Democratic Countries but we are suppose to embrace limp wristed programs that attempt to foster tolerance towards us. Please spare me the socialist fluff, if they can't tolerate our way of life leave. We infidels and Jew pigs (Islamic term for the Jews not mine) aren't the ones showing intolerance it's the so called Moderates that cheer in front of their TV's when we infidels get killed by the Radical Islamists in our countries. I can just image the media hyperhole in the next few days interviewing the "So called moderate Imams" in England and Scotland. Wait for it people, their tried and true fear of the "BACK LASH" yes sir ree they always talk about this mythical character called BACK LASH. It's never happens this thing called BACK LASH where hoards of non-Muslims are screaming in the streets for Muslim blood, but the biased socialist media in England will be discussing this BACK LASH like it's a real thing. It's time for the so called Moderates to speak out, will they of course not. A fifth column and world domination is the moderates dream as well. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
runningdog Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 and the other shoe drops... Lieberman: UK Incident Should Drop Spy Opposition Meanwhile here in the United States, Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut said the bombing plots should encourage lawmakers to drop opposition to the Bush administration’s domestic spying on U.S. citizens. Speaking on ABC’s This Week, Lieberman said: “I hope these terrorist attacks in London wake us up here in America to stop the petty partisan fighting going on about…electronic surveillance.” we better give away all our rights if we know what's good for us!!!! Quote
Drea Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? I agree that Islam should be stomped out (ideally all religion should be "stomped out", but let's start with Islam as it is the worst one) Yippeee! Finally! People who want to erradicate religion! I love you man! Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
ScottSA Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 and the other shoe drops...Lieberman: UK Incident Should Drop Spy Opposition Meanwhile here in the United States, Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut said the bombing plots should encourage lawmakers to drop opposition to the Bush administration’s domestic spying on U.S. citizens. Speaking on ABC’s This Week, Lieberman said: “I hope these terrorist attacks in London wake us up here in America to stop the petty partisan fighting going on about…electronic surveillance.” we better give away all our rights if we know what's good for us!!!! I think perhaps the first step is to recognize we've got a problem instead of spending your time looking for ever more ridiculous ways to deny it. Then you may begin to be able to discern the difference between the machinations of the evil Bush and having your head sawn off or your daughter blown up. Quote
betsy Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? I agree that Islam should be stomped out (ideally all religion should be "stomped out", but let's start with Islam as it is the worst one) I know your question is directed to Scott, but I'd like to give a suggestion. For starters.... First. Let's do away with multi-culturalism. This is for all immigrants from all over the world who comes to Canada. You chose to come here, therefore you live by our laws and our way of life. If you want to keep your culture, do so in the privacy of your home - as long as you are not breaking any laws of this country. It's not us who will change and adjust to you. Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! Third. No barbaric protests allowed. If you do want to protest about something, do so in a civilized way. fourth. Anyone caught being involved with terrorism in any way is out of here! If you're Canadian citizens, then consider yourself, ex-Canadian citizens. This will include your whole family. five. Anyone making any threats - include fatwas - will be criminalized under our law. six. Any mosques involved or used for preaching hatred and inciting will be shut down, with no hope whatsoever of being re-opened again. In fact, it will be torn down, and the vacant space be put to good use instead. All imams from that mosque will be kicked out of the country. Any shut down mosque will never be replaced in the area. Quote
margrace Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? I agree that Islam should be stomped out (ideally all religion should be "stomped out", but let's start with Islam as it is the worst one) I know your question is directed to Scott, but I'd like to give a suggestion. For starters.... First. Let's do away with multi-culturalism. This is for all immigrants from all over the world who comes to Canada. You chose to come here, therefore you live by our laws and our way of life. If you want to keep your culture, do so in the privacy of your home - as long as you are not breaking any laws of this country. It's not us who will change and adjust to you. Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! Third. No barbaric protests allowed. If you do want to protest about something, do so in a civilized way. fourth. Anyone caught being involved with terrorism in any way is out of here! If you're Canadian citizens, then consider yourself, ex-Canadian citizens. This will include your whole family. five. Anyone making any threats - include fatwas - will be criminalized under our law. six. Any mosques involved or used for preaching hatred and inciting will be shut down, with no hope whatsoever of being re-opened again. In fact, it will be torn down, and the vacant space be put to good use instead. All imams from that mosque will be kicked out of the country. Any shut down mosque will never be replaced in the area. Hey thats a great idea and whose country was this, so we all embrace the Native way of life. Oh you won't like that, doesn't fit in with your little scheme of things does it. Quote
margrace Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? I agree that Islam should be stomped out (ideally all religion should be "stomped out", but let's start with Islam as it is the worst one) I know your question is directed to Scott, but I'd like to give a suggestion. For starters.... First. Let's do away with multi-culturalism. This is for all immigrants from all over the world who comes to Canada. You chose to come here, therefore you live by our laws and our way of life. If you want to keep your culture, do so in the privacy of your home - as long as you are not breaking any laws of this country. It's not us who will change and adjust to you. Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! Third. No barbaric protests allowed. If you do want to protest about something, do so in a civilized way. fourth. Anyone caught being involved with terrorism in any way is out of here! If you're Canadian citizens, then consider yourself, ex-Canadian citizens. This will include your whole family. five. Anyone making any threats - include fatwas - will be criminalized under our law. six. Any mosques involved or used for preaching hatred and inciting will be shut down, with no hope whatsoever of being re-opened again. In fact, it will be torn down, and the vacant space be put to good use instead. All imams from that mosque will be kicked out of the country. Any shut down mosque will never be replaced in the area. Hey thats a great idea and whose country was this, so we all embrace the Native way of life. Oh you won't like that, doesn't fit in with your little scheme of things does it. Quote
Sulaco Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? I agree that Islam should be stomped out (ideally all religion should be "stomped out", but let's start with Islam as it is the worst one) I know your question is directed to Scott, but I'd like to give a suggestion. For starters.... First. Let's do away with multi-culturalism. This is for all immigrants from all over the world who comes to Canada. You chose to come here, therefore you live by our laws and our way of life. If you want to keep your culture, do so in the privacy of your home - as long as you are not breaking any laws of this country. It's not us who will change and adjust to you. Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! Third. No barbaric protests allowed. If you do want to protest about something, do so in a civilized way. fourth. Anyone caught being involved with terrorism in any way is out of here! If you're Canadian citizens, then consider yourself, ex-Canadian citizens. This will include your whole family. five. Anyone making any threats - include fatwas - will be criminalized under our law. six. Any mosques involved or used for preaching hatred and inciting will be shut down, with no hope whatsoever of being re-opened again. In fact, it will be torn down, and the vacant space be put to good use instead. All imams from that mosque will be kicked out of the country. Any shut down mosque will never be replaced in the area. Hey thats a great idea and whose country was this, so we all embrace the Native way of life. Oh you won't like that, doesn't fit in with your little scheme of things does it. Well - let's see how this analogy plays out. Native Americans were too weak to stop the European invaders. Rather than unify - not to blame them - that may have been impossible - they tried to play Europeans off against each other and use them to settle their own tribal conflicts. As a result they were swalloed up whole, by the more technologically advanced Europeans. Had they unified in time - rather than far too late during the war of 1812 (and even then not fully) they might have had a chance of carving out some land. They failed. You have a new colonization - this time by barbarians. They come into Canada like the Europeans came - and they attempt to change. To make you adapt. You act to late and you wont have enough power to prevent change you might not find acceptable. So yes - you should learn from native American's failure vis a vis the Euros and not repeat their mistake. preserve your dominion ofver these lands -= so to speak. Analogies are fun - expecially when they are as ill thought out as yours was. Quote Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who learn from history are doomed to a lifetime of reruns.
jbg Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 On CNN last night -- Christina Amamanammmmpoor (sp LOL) A really good program about Muslims in Britain. Did anyone else see it? There are radicals that is for sure. But it does seem that some really levelheaded moderates are finally speaking out. Reaching out to young muslims. ...then so are the radicals "reaching out". One radical was arrested. All of them that spew hatred should be arrested. There was this muslim architect who had designed the largest mosque outside the middle east and wants to build it in London. It will hold 40,000 people. All Board hyperbole aside, we really need to find out what the h*ll is going on inside those mosques. I suspect the sedition and even treason laws would be a big help. All mosques/churches/synagogues/temples should be open to anyone who wants to pray to god. This new building could be a "coming together" of religions. After all, they ALL worship the same "god", why not let anyone pray in any mosque/church/synagogue/temple? Would be a good way to "keep an eye on one another".*As a militant atheist, I would like to see religion wiped off the earth completely but barring that I would have them all join forces and pray together. That would be great. But imagine, if I went into a mosque, how many pieces I'd emerge in. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 That would be great. But imagine, if I went into a mosque, how many pieces I'd emerge in. Well, we can't have apes and pigs wandering in and out of mosques, now can we? Especially ones who think their wives are their equals. Let's be reasonable here...I mean, Islam is a religion of peace and all, but there are limits y'know... Quote
WestViking Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 That would be great. But imagine, if I went into a mosque, how many pieces I'd emerge in. Well, we can't have apes and pigs wandering in and out of mosques, now can we? Especially ones who think their wives are their equals. Let's be reasonable here...I mean, Islam is a religion of peace and all, but there are limits y'know... Most any group can be very peaceful if it gets its way and fealty from non members. Quote Hall Monitor of the Shadowy Group
jbg Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! A long kirpan registry may in fact be more in order than a ban. I have drafted legislation that I would like the Government or Private Member to table as soon after April 3, 2006 as possible. It is urgent. LICENCES, REGISTRATION CERTIFICATES AND AUTHORIZATIONS APPLICATIONS 55. (1) DEFINITIONS. A “Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon” shall mean any sword, scimitar, kirpan, detonating explosive vest, religious device activated or propelled by any explosive material, whether or not designed to be left at a premises to detonate for religious purposes or designed to be activated by the bearer of the device, whether or not the bearer is expected to survive the detonation. 56. (1) A licence, registration certificate or authorization for possession or use of a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon in a public transportation or educational setting may be issued only on application made in the prescribed form — which form may be in writing or electronic — or in the prescribed manner. The application must set out the prescribed information and be accompanied by payment of the prescribed fees. (2) An application for a licence, registration certificate or authorization must be made to (a) a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon Officer, in the case of a licence, an authorization to carry or an authorization to transport; or ( an appropriate priest, mullah, rabbi, ayatollah, sheik or other religious official (“Alternative Authorizing Religious Official”). (3) An individual who, on the commencement day, possesses one or more Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons or one or more Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons referred to in subsection 12(6.1) (pre-April 3, 2006 Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons) must specify, in any application for a licence authorizing the individual to possess Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons or other weapons that are so referred to, (a) except in the case of a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon described in paragraph (, for which purpose described in section 28 the individual wishes to continue to possess Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons or Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons that are so referred to; and ( for which of those Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapons was a registration certificate under the former Act issued because they were relics, were of value as a curiosity or rarity or were valued as a memento, remembrance or souvenir. 2006, c. 39, s. 54; 2006, c. 8, ss. 36, 56. 57. (1) A Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon Officer or Alternative Authorizing Religious Official may require an applicant for a licence or authorization to submit such information, in addition to that included in the application, as may reasonably be regarded as relevant for the purpose of determining whether the applicant is eligible to hold the licence or authorization. The factors that shall be considered are the degree to which Canada’s tolerant multicultural goals are being fulfilled by the suppression or disruption of previous hidebound Judeo-Christian colonialist discriminatory practices. (2) Without restricting the scope of the inquiries that may be made with respect to an application for a licence, a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon Officer may conduct an investigation of the applicant, which may consist of interviews with mullahs, ayatollahs, foreign leaders and dictators, and revolutionary or liberation movement leaders, neighbours, community workers, social workers, individuals who work or live with the applicant, spouse or common-law partner, former spouse or former common-law partner, dependants or whomever in the opinion of the Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon Officer may provide information pertaining to whether the applicant is eligible under section 5 to hold a licence. 2006, c. 39, s. 55; 2006, c. 12, s. 118. (3) It shall per se be an appropriate use of a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon to bring such device to any educational facility, whether public or private, or any transportation facility, whether aviation, aquatic, highway or mass transit based, and there shall be no restrictions on the use of a Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon at such location. ISSUANCE 58. (1) A Ceremonial Religious Restricted Weapon Officer is responsible for issuing licences. (2) Only one licence may be issued to any one individual, unless multiple licences are required to facilitate a particular liberation activity, such as multiple simultaneous events at multiple locations. (3) A business other than a carrier requires a separate licence for each place where the business is carried on. 59. A licence or registration certificate must be issued in the prescribed form — which form may be in writing or electronic — or in the prescribed manner, and include the prescribed information, including any conditions attached to it. (written by me, based upon "Long Gun Registry" bill) Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
ScottSA Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 Second. The burquas and veils must go. And the kirpans! A long kirpan registry may in fact be more in order than a ban. I have drafted legislation that I would like the Government or Private Member to table as soon after April 3, 2006 as possible. It is urgent. Kirpans are perfectly safe when welded to a 10 pounder cannonball. Why bother Sikhs with un-necessary paperwork? Why not simply legislate that each kirpan be welded to a blunt object of regulation shape and weight? Everyone's religion is respected, no paperwork, no lost millions (criminal Sikhs are hardly likely to register their kirpans, after all), no problem. Quote
scribblet Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? Again no one has ever said all muslims should be killed. One solution is not to give in to their demands e.g. separate swimming classes for girls. We should be demanding full integration into our public school system which includes not giving in to demands for a ban on “un-Islamic” activities in schools as set out by the Muslim Council of Britain. Such activities incljude include playground games, swimming lessons, school plays, parents’ evenings and even vaccinations. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/237 The report, Towards Greater Understanding – Meeting The Needs of Muslim Pupils In State Schools, says all schools should bring in effective bans for all pupils on “un-Islamic activities” like dance classes. It also wants to limit certain activities during Ramadan. They include science lessons dealing with sex, parents’ evenings, exams and immunization programs. The holy month – when eating and drinking is not allowed in daylight hours – should also see a ban on swimming lessons in case pupils swallow water in the pool. When swimming is allowed, boys should wear clothing covering their bodies “from the navel to the neck”, even during single-sex pool sessions, while girls must be covered up completely at all times, apart from the face and hands. The MCB adds that schools should ensure contact sports, including football and basketball, “are always in single-gender groups”. Even school trips are targeted in the report, which wants them all to be made single-sex “to encourage greater participation from Muslim pupils”. cont.... This type of thing is out there, and more, we should start with a big emphatic NO to all of these demands as the more we give in the more they demand - then what - we are looking at a us assimilating with them, not the other way around. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 The solution to Islam is to stomp it out. Outlaw it and all visible symbols of it. How? If you have the solution, please do share it with us. I am a realist -- really, we cannot kill all the muslims on earth, there are just too many of them. So what indeed should we do Scott? Again no one has ever said all muslims should be killed. One solution is not to give in to their demands e.g. separate swimming classes for girls. We should be demanding full integration into our public school system which includes not giving in to demands for a ban on “un-Islamic” activities in schools as set out by the Muslim Council of Britain. Such activities incljude include playground games, swimming lessons, school plays, parents’ evenings and even vaccinations. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/237 The report, Towards Greater Understanding – Meeting The Needs of Muslim Pupils In State Schools, says all schools should bring in effective bans for all pupils on “un-Islamic activities” like dance classes. It also wants to limit certain activities during Ramadan. They include science lessons dealing with sex, parents’ evenings, exams and immunization programs. The holy month – when eating and drinking is not allowed in daylight hours – should also see a ban on swimming lessons in case pupils swallow water in the pool. When swimming is allowed, boys should wear clothing covering their bodies “from the navel to the neck”, correction, navel to the kneeseven during single-sex pool sessions, while girls must be covered up completely at all times, apart from the face and hands. The MCB adds that schools should ensure contact sports, including football and basketball, “are always in single-gender groups”. Even school trips are targeted in the report, which wants them all to be made single-sex “to encourage greater participation from Muslim pupils”. cont.... This type of thing is out there, and more, we should start with a big emphatic NO to all of these demands as the more we give in the more they demand - then what - we are looking at a us assimilating with them, not the other way around. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted July 3, 2007 Report Posted July 3, 2007 BTW I'm surprised that so far there has been a lack of 'false flag' accusations from the usual suspects - must be on vacation - Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
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