marcinmoka Posted June 27, 2007 Report Posted June 27, 2007 Sadly I doubt it, but I am not hiding my relative (and naive in this particular instance) optimism. Granted, it could bring forth two fundamental shifts; 1. The election a Guardian Council free leadership. 2. Increasing petrol (refinery) production, both for domestic and export purposes. I just wish both sides realize they need each other. Iran needs the US if it wants peace, security and prosperity, and the US must also make many concessions if it hopes to not make the issue of Iraq an even bigger blot on their record. Like little children...I swear. Quote " Influence is far more powerful than control"
myata Posted June 27, 2007 Report Posted June 27, 2007 Like little children... Except one the chidren boasts to be the champion of liberty peace and democracy while having the biggest army on this planet. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
buffycat Posted June 27, 2007 Report Posted June 27, 2007 I'll say it again: Should have left Mossadeq alone - but oh no - he didn't want to allow his country to be raped by Big Oil. Iran has her problems, but they are hers now and up to the Persians to solve. WE need to stay the heck out of it. Bombing them into the stoneage will not help anyone - if anything it will only increase the hatred of the USrael alliances and create even more chaos and bloodshed (oh sorry that is what they want afterall isn't it? Killing is SO good for the koffers!). sheeesh Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
scribblet Posted June 27, 2007 Report Posted June 27, 2007 Sadly I doubt it, but I am not hiding my relative (and naive in this particular instance) optimism.Granted, it could bring forth two fundamental shifts; 1. The election a Guardian Council free leadership. 2. Increasing petrol (refinery) production, both for domestic and export purposes. I think they import a lot more than 40% of their oil. Those crazy ululating mullahs refuse to invest in their own oil infrastructure, but would rather spend it on Russian weaponry and Chinese nuclear technology while oiling Hezbollah's war machinery. Soon the could find themselves in a position similar to Iraq around 1990 huh; in debt up to their eyeballs - then what - invade another oil country. Of course, a nuclear Iran will be free to walk into any country of their choice to 'liberate' anything they need for their "Islamic Revolution". Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Moxie Posted June 27, 2007 Report Posted June 27, 2007 Iran's president has threatened to distroy Israel, several times. He's barking mad, if he obtains nukes god help the free world. The people of Iran need to remove him from power and make sure he takes his Mullahs and Imams with him. Wahhabi Islam is not a path for civilized societies, and Iran and it's people deserve better than crazy women hating men running their country. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
scribblet Posted June 28, 2007 Report Posted June 28, 2007 Ahmadinejad has stated unequivocaly that Israel should not exist numerous times, moreover, he has done so with no significant opposition so this must mean it is national policy. If at some point he chooses to put his words into actions will any one stop him? At other times, Ahmadinejad has said: * "The real cure for the conflict is elimination of the Zionist regime." * "The way to peace in the Middle East is the destruction of Israel." * "Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation." * "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm." (For sources of these quotes and more, see The Israel Project, Iran's Leaders: In their own words.") http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/...9705&ct=2900361 Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
BC_chick Posted June 29, 2007 Report Posted June 29, 2007 Wahhabi Islam is not a path for civilized societies, and Iran and it's people deserve better than crazy women hating men running their country. Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi. Iran is Shiite. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
geoffrey Posted June 29, 2007 Report Posted June 29, 2007 Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi. Iran is Shiite. What's in a name? People in Iran are still brutally oppressed and killed for their views and exposing the truth. I really don't see the point in drawing a distinction between one sect that perfers stoning women compared to beheading them. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BC_chick Posted June 29, 2007 Report Posted June 29, 2007 Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi. Iran is Shiite. What's in a name? People in Iran are still brutally oppressed and killed for their views and exposing the truth. I really don't see the point in drawing a distinction between one sect that perfers stoning women compared to beheading them. I never said anything about Iran not being oppressive, I just corrected another poster's mistake. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
capricorn Posted June 29, 2007 Report Posted June 29, 2007 I think if the President of Iran does not take heed of the revolt over the rationing of petrol, his unpopularity will increase among Iranians. It is an internal affair brought about by Ahmadinejad's foreign policy and lack of investment in oil refining infrastructure. It works in concert with boycotts by western nations to rein in this despot. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Sulaco Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 Like little children... Except one the chidren boasts to be the champion of liberty peace and democracy while having the biggest army on this planet. Well it would be a bit of an empty boast to be claim to be a champion of anything without having a big army. The little twerp in the schoolyard can claim to champion the cause of the underdog but in the end he will get a lot of nosebleeds unless he finds a reasonable, strong, protector. An anti-bully with a heavy fist. Quote Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who learn from history are doomed to a lifetime of reruns.
Moxie Posted July 2, 2007 Report Posted July 2, 2007 Wahhabi Islam is not a path for civilized societies, and Iran and it's people deserve better than crazy women hating men running their country. Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi. Iran is Shiite. Like little children... Except one the chidren boasts to be the champion of liberty peace and democracy while having the biggest army on this planet. Well it would be a bit of an empty boast to be claim to be a champion of anything without having a big army. The little twerp in the schoolyard can claim to champion the cause of the underdog but in the end he will get a lot of nosebleeds unless he finds a reasonable, strong, protector. An anti-bully with a heavy fist. That may be their cultural heritage and roots but the brand of Islam that is being practiced is Wahhabi Islam. It has nothing to do with being Shia or shiite, the mad mullas and Imams are Wahhabi Cult followers. As for the US being a bully, give me a break. Iran a domocratic country good grief what are you smoking? Iran is a country that executes rape victims and hangs homosexuals. Good grief talk about blinders on. However; I'll take a bully over Iran's fanatical, hateful filthy leader. The man is barking crazy. The people of Iran have no one to blame but themselves, they elected him and his pack of mad Mullahs and now they lie in the bed they made. If Iran continues to threaten Israel the US, Canada and Britain will gladly stand by our friend Israel's side to protect her from Radical Islamist's Leader who has the gleam of world domination in his beady little eyes. Killing Jews is just the icing on the cake, such hatred from Muslim Countries is what will distroy them. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
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