FascistLibertarian Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 Hey How do you guys feel. I think it would be a good idea. Prostitution has negatives to be sure. But you cant win this part of the war on vice. Canada should do it! Quote
Mad_Michael Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 HeyHow do you guys feel. I think it would be a good idea. Prostitution has negatives to be sure. But you cant win this part of the war on vice. Canada should do it! No. Despite all the hundreds of good reasons to legalise pot and/or prostitution, there is one huge issue that is often overlooked. Tens of thousands of American college students coming over the border every Friday night in charter buses looking for pot and prostitute, a few beers perhaps, piss on the sidewalk, puke in an alleyway, maybe a drunken fight or two and then back on the bus to go home. Just ask the Dutch what they think of their wonderful system. There is a reason that Amsterdam's property values are comparatively the lowest in the Netherlands and decent Dutch people steer wide clear of that cesspool. Vice tourists are the absolute worst and bring nothing much of value to the economy. Quote
M.Dancer Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Who's Doing What? Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. Personally I want an endorsement deal. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
FascistLibertarian Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Posted June 22, 2007 No.Despite all the hundreds of good reasons to legalise pot and/or prostitution, there is one huge issue that is often overlooked. Tens of thousands of American college students coming over the border every Friday night in charter buses looking for pot and prostitute, a few beers perhaps, piss on the sidewalk, puke in an alleyway, maybe a drunken fight or two and then back on the bus to go home. Just ask the Dutch what they think of their wonderful system. There is a reason that Amsterdam's property values are comparatively the lowest in the Netherlands and decent Dutch people steer wide clear of that cesspool. Vice tourists are the absolute worst and bring nothing much of value to the economy. Not if we heavily taxed non-Canadians who did this and imposed very harsh penalties against those foreigners who go outside the system. Quote
runningdog Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. LOL! Quote
noahbody Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. I hope it's a sprint. Quote
M.Dancer Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. I hope it's a sprint. Being part of the Dancer line, it would have to be Dressage..... but I knew a gal who was started training for the relay but switched teams and ended up with the broad jump Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
geoffrey Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 The main reason I have never charged for sex is that I didn't want to lose my amatuer status in case it ever became an Olympic event. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jbg Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 HeyHow do you guys feel. I think it would be a good idea. Prostitution has negatives to be sure. But you cant win this part of the war on vice. Canada should do it! Sex tourism is not a good thing to encourage. With your 14 (or is it 16) year old age of consent, you're well on way to becoming sex tourism destination, much the way that Montana attracted "speed tourists", i.e. people who liked thrill of fast driving, between 1995 and 1999, when state had no posted speed limit. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
gc1765 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 With your 14 (or is it 16) year old age of consent, you're well on way to becoming sex tourism destination... As long as they obey the law, I don't care. Heck, we could use all that extra revenue to police the area, with stiff penalties, like locking anyone who breaks the law in the same cell. Or, you guys in the U.S. could vote to legalize as well, since that will likely be where the tourists are coming from. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
jbg Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 Or, you guys in the U.S. could vote to legalize as well, since that will likely be where the tourists are coming from.In the US, unlike Canada, criminal laws are state by state. Nevada has legalized it, and is paying a price in sleaze and organized crime. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
gc1765 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 In the US, unlike Canada, criminal laws are state by state. Nevada has legalized it, and is paying a price in sleaze and organized crime. I see, good point. In that case, you should try to get more states on board...including New York Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Guest coot Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Or, you guys in the U.S. could vote to legalize as well, since that will likely be where the tourists are coming from.In the US, unlike Canada, criminal laws are state by state. Nevada has legalized it, and is paying a price in sleaze and organized crime. Sleaze is relative to individual sensibilities, and organized crime flourishes off of black markets, not regulated ones. There would be more organized crime in Nevada if it weren't legalized. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, it was legalized there to lessen the gangsters' grip on the trade. Socialists who can't stand the idea of the government not being involved in every element of peoples' lives are always happy to criminalize anything they can. Sometimes they pretend they're conservative, but they're really big government proponents in disguise. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Just ask the Dutch what they think of their wonderful system. There is a reason that Amsterdam's property values are comparatively the lowest in the Netherlands and decent Dutch people steer wide clear of that cesspool. Vice tourists are the absolute worst and bring nothing much of value to the economy. Never heard this end of the argument, and it's something to think about. But I still think that providing a safe environment for the women (and men really) who choose to partake in the industry is worth the drunken tourists. This isn't Europe where people from all over the place will be coming, we're quite isolated so it's not a fair comparison to Amsterdam. Border-town Americans and the odd Mid-westerner who chooses Canadian girls to Mexican ones is going to be about it. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
geoffrey Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 The only safe environment for these women is out of the prostitution industry. It's an illusion to think that because the government taxes their incomes that they are safer. It's silly. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BC_chick Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 The only safe environment for these women is out of the prostitution industry. Agreed, for sure. But we've been trying that for a few thousand years and it's not working. We need a plan B. It's an illusion to think that because the government taxes their incomes that they are safer. It's silly. Look at any country with allocated red-light district.... would Pickton have stood a chance of killing 50 women in that environment? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
geoffrey Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Look at any country with allocated red-light district.... would Pickton have stood a chance? Sure (assuming he's guilty). There would still be a blackmarket for it. Always is. People don't want to pay the taxes either. These things do happen in Vegas, and elsewhere. I don't think it's the magic solution that some seem to think it is. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BC_chick Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Sure (assuming he's guilty). There would still be a blackmarket for it. Always is. People don't want to pay the taxes either. These things do happen in Vegas, and elsewhere. I don't think it's the magic solution that some seem to think it is. Like I said, we've been trying Plan A and it's not working. Maybe those who don't like Plan B should start offering a Plan C. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
geoffrey Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Like I said, we've been trying Plan A and it's not working. Maybe those who don't like Plan B should start offering a Plan C. Sure. Paying the hookers not to solicit. Having real penalties for those that purchase 'services.' It could even be mostly self funded. A few thousand dollar fines per use, and have that go to pay hookers not to be on the street. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
BC_chick Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Paying the hookers not to solicit. Now there's a swell social-program... I think it'll fly. Then 1/2 the people on this forum can start bitching about the lazy bums who just don't wanna work. Having real penalties for those that purchase 'services.' It could even be mostly self funded. A few thousand dollar fines per use, and have that go to pay hookers not to be on the street. Sounds good. Let's do it. Maybe an ultimatum is what's going to be what gets Parliament thinking on this.... "Uh, guys, listen up, we the people have been thinking here, and we've decided that you have two choices - either legalise prostitution or start slapping huge fines on the men who use the services." Having heard stories the kind of stories about politicians that I have, I'm sure prostitution will be legalised within the first reading of the Bill. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Sex tourism is not a good thing to encourage. With your 14 (or is it 16) year old age of consent, you're well on way to becoming sex tourism destination, much the way that Montana attracted "speed tourists", i.e. people who liked thrill of fast driving, between 1995 and 1999, when state had no posted speed limit. Sex tourist destination? Citation for that? Quote
geoffrey Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 Having heard stories the kind of stories about politicians that I have, I'm sure prostitution will be legalised within the first reading of the Bill. Unfortunately I think your right. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Remiel Posted June 26, 2007 Report Posted June 26, 2007 That guy who was caught for soliciting was from my riding, hehehe... He even ran in the last election as an independant. I think he got between 800-1100 votes. Quote
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