GHGs stabilized under Dion, Martin and McGuinty

[Michael Bluth]

This "13 years and they did nothing" slogan the Cons always use when talking about the Libs no matter what Ministry is talking is getting a little much! First by stating this, they are insulting the majority of voters who voted for the Libs, not once but 3X's!

The Liberals never got a majority of the votes cast.

[hiti]

One really should update their knowledge and not keep on sprouting the Cons rhetoric.

Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji announced on September 3, 2002 at the World Summit on Sustainable Development that China has approved the Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/news-ar...o-Protocol.html

Ummm...of course China approved it. It doesn't call for China to reduce emmissions. And none of this makes Kyoto into "international law."

I was responding to your "meanwhile China puffs along" comment

As for Kyoto being International law, it did so on February 15, 2005 and Stephane Dion had a big part in making that happen at the Montreal conference. It was largely due to his effort that an agreement was reached and he was called a "hero" by environmentalists.

A point that Steve's Torys took and twisted in one of their attack ads.

China is puffing along. It is allowed to increase its emmissions substantially under Kyoto.

I think you'd better read up on what constitutes "international law". Kyoto is a multilateral treaty, like the landmine treaty that everyone, except the countries who actually use landmines, signed. It, like the Kyoto Treaty, is not international law. In order for it to become international law, the UNSC would have to pass a resolution requiring it, in which case most of the world would simply pull out of the UN, or everyone would have to sign it. Even then, it would only be binding for those countries which actually stay party to it.

Yea China is puffing along and doing much better than Steve and his buddy Dubya.

Updated: 2006-11-17 06:30

NAIROBI: A report released this week at the United Nations Climate Change Conference countered claims that developing countries like China are not doing enough to reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions.

The report, entitled "Greenhouse Gas Mitigation in Brazil, China and India: Scenarios and Opportunities through 2025," also finds that 70 per cent of China's unilateral emissions reductions had been financed domestically.

"Our analysis shows the actions China and Brazil are taking will result in emissions cuts to levels comparable to what the United States is projected to do under its voluntary target by 2010, also equal to nearly 40 per cent of what the EU will do by 2010," said Ned Helme, president of the Center for Clean Air Policy (CCAP), the US-based think-tank that produced the report. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-11...tent_735500.htm

[gc1765]

In December 2005, environmental groups awarded the Liberal government with the “Fossil of the Day” award at the Montreal conference that was being chaired by Stephane Dion (ECO, December 2, 2005,)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who fell for the lies by the right-wing to try to discredit Dion. Apparently BC chick, Michael Ignatieff and some environmental groups also fell for it. I guess I shouldn't feel so bad for being fooled then.

[geoffrey]

What policy reduced emissions? Ummm.... Uhhhhh.......

Eeeeehhhhh???

I can't really think of anything the Liberals had in actually reducing emissions. Succeeding when they didn't even intend to is pure luck.

Warm winters, Suncor's shut down, considerable repairs at Keephills and the switch over to much of the cleaner technology at Genese 3.

Hmmm...

Ya, that will stablise GHG. What Dion did exactly is still a mystery to me. Maybe he can tell us all what his policies were, other than signing papers, to reduce GHG.

[betsy]

Those are 13 long years we're talking about! THIRTEEN!

If the Cons are wrong with their accusations.....well then, how come the Liberals aren't doing the most logical thing in proving the Cons wrong? Come out and explain, in details!

Why hasn't the Liberals explain everything that they did for the environment in details? During those 13 long years?

Surely that's the best way to pull the rug and make the Cons fall on their long noses! Well???

Hmmm.....okay....if they can't come up with anything significant and credible, I'll settle for the excuses then.

What's their excuse to justify doing nothing?

Too busy adscamming? Too pre-occupied building hotels and playing golf? Fighting their camp wars?

[betsy]

In December 2005, environmental groups awarded the Liberal government with the “Fossil of the Day” award at the Montreal conference that was being chaired by Stephane Dion (ECO, December 2, 2005,)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who fell for the lies by the right-wing to try to discredit Dion. Apparently BC chick, Michael Ignatieff and some environmental groups also fell for it. I guess I shouldn't feel so bad for being fooled then.

Speak for yourself!

I didn't fall for lies! I just simply listened to both sides....and discerned who's credible!

Don't drag me with you if you have problems with discerning. And don't be discouraged. For some, it takes time to learn.

If Dion will clearly explain what exactly he had done about the environment that made significant improvement ....OR the excuse(s) he has if as Ignatieff has said is true, "We didn't get the job done"....I'm only too keen to listen.

Since Dion is touting himself to be the "hero" and the "champion of environment," surely it can't be too hard for him to justify his claims.

Then I will discern some more.

[betsy]

Truth be told, the onus is on the Liberals to prove that Dion - as he stoutly claim - is truly the so-called "champion" of the environment. That he did do significant improvement with the environment when he was the sitting minister!

After all, the Liberals' track records have only proven that they are usually ALL TALK AND NO ACTION.

AND ON THE RARE OCCASIONS THEY ACTED, IT'S USUALLY A COMPLETE MESS!

That's why the Liberals have lying to a fine art. They've gotten so used to lying - defending themselves.