Topstrok11 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Proof That Christianity is Null and Void Jesus is both a liar and a sinner. The Christian marriage has been outlawed in all 50 United States and does not exist anywhere in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or any other traditionally western country. If a believer has not the ability to have a Christian marriage, as defined by the Bible, the Covenant is null and void, hence Christ is a liar. If the churches cannot and will not speak out against the extinction of the Christian marriage, Christianity does not exist, and once again Christ is a liar. The Great Whore has indeed defeated Jesus, because Jesus lied! A Christian marriage can only be defined as that marriage where the authority of the male is supreme, even in the event that the marriage should fail. The fact that the power in any marriage, is by child support statute, entirely and exclusively in the woman's power, makes what is called a Christian marriage a sham. The idea that a woman can, on a moment's whim, begin to live and act like a whore - even forcing the children into her Jezebel schemes, whilst the man is forced into child support slavery to the woman. Not only is the man forced to pay for defective children (sometimes not even his), but it is common knowledge that most children of whores are defective. The man is also crippled in his ability to find a replacement woman, who can bear and help raise defect-free children because of the small slave wages allowed for him. Let's face it! The majority of women collecting child support money can be classified as whores. They get their cues from the popular media. If it dresses like a whore, walks like a whore, talks like a whore, and acts like a whore, it's most likely a whore. How can you possibly have Christianity when the Christian marriage does not exist? That's like saying you have lungs without any air. Nowhere in the Holy Bible is there even one reference - instructing men to have orders barked at them by a woman. The Holy Bible is abundantly clear on who should be in charge, between a man and a woman. Even if the husband is in error, this is still not a reason for a man's authority to be challenged. Please note the following. 1 Pet 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; The man was first given dominion over the woman in the Book of Genesis. Women were never meant for leadership and often show complete and utter incompetence. Please note the following. Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Adam also is punished, and he is punished for allowing the woman Eve to have dominion over him. Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Because of their inherent incompetence, women are instructed, within the Holy Bible, to be silent in church affairs. The legacy of womanly incompetence is the forced drugging of boys within the public schools with Ritalin, or other similarly dangerous drugs. Is it any wonder that those same boys inevitably turn to drugs when they get older? After all, soccer-slut mother said it was okay! One of the most dangerous side-effects of Ritalin is suicidal and homicidal thinking. Likewise, young girls get the idea that it is quite okay to act-out sexually like slut-mother, becoming sluts themselves. Thanks whore-mom! And men should be forced to pay for this? Mankind got along just fine before the child support laws, and the children managed to get fed. You're sitting here reading this, aren't you? I'd say you've gotten plenty to eat and none the worse for the wear. Most of you, if you happen to live in the United States, have gotten far too much to eat. Not all make it, but that's been our history ever since the dawn of time. Mankind has tried for attempts at Utopia, and that's all the child support laws are - Utopia. Utopia doesn't work and will never work. It only brings misery and suffering. 1 Cor 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. The husband is clearly meant to be the boss. There should be no misunderstanding with the following verse. Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. The husband (father) is clearly designated to be in charge of the family. The intent was never for Jezebel to be given license, through the child support laws, to go a-whoring - with the father being forced into child support slavery. Although a man can be divorced from his wife, he can't be divorced from his children. Not according to scripture! 1 Tim 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. There are some that would say this isn't God's department - that Jesus doesn't concern himself with the affairs of governments. Christian doctrine holds that the marital institution itself comes from God. This means that it is very much Jesus' department that there be the ability to have an actual Christian marriage. If that Christian marriage cannot be delivered, then Jesus has committed a fraud upon Mankind. After all, mankind was punished for disobedience to scripture, and now that obedience is impossible. The following passage is proof that the Christian marriage is a requirement of God, because it comes from God. It is Jesus' part of the contract (Covenant). Mathew Chapter 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Mathew Chapter 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What herefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. There are those who think that because these happen to be modern times, that the scriptures of the Holy Bible are somehow obsolete. Think again! Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. In summary, Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit have been proven to be liars and sinners, or liar and sinner if you think of them as one. Quote
August1991 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 The legacy of womanly incompetence is the forced drugging of boys within the public schools with Ritalin, or other similarly dangerous drugs. Indeed. We must forbid pharmacies selling aspirin to mothers and of course, all barmaids should be fired immediately. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 After reading your idea of a Christian marriage, all I can say is thank God it's dead. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
kimmy Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Welcome to our forum, nut-cup! As a great man once said, "Congratulations on being crazy and having a computer." -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Posit Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 PROOF! Jesus wasn't a "Christian"! The religion was created AFTER he was murdered. If you count yourself a "Christian", then you are a living lie! PROOF! If you were a follower of Jesus' teachings, you wouldn't need (or use) a sanctimonious rant to condemn people because of your sins. The Bible was written by Judaic scholars and edited by imperialist nobles and aristocrats. If you "believe" what the Bible has to offer without putting it into practice, then you truly don't have a clue..... James 2:1-26 "My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." Quote
Drea Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Topstrok11, you are newly divorced? With child support payments? Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
Topstrok11 Posted June 10, 2007 Author Report Posted June 10, 2007 Topstrok11, you are newly divorced?With child support payments? My marital status is not relevant to this discussion. I have stated facts, and I have yet to see a logical dispute of those facts that I have presented. Quote
Topstrok11 Posted June 10, 2007 Author Report Posted June 10, 2007 Welcome to our forum, nut-cup! As a great man once said, "Congratulations on being crazy and having a computer." -k Well, if stating the truth somehow makes me crazy in your view, so be it. I did note that you failed to include the passage where the man is to have orders barked at him by the woman. Can you cite the passage where man is to have orders barked at him by a woman? You will not be able to quote that passage, because it does not exist! Perhaps you might turn to one of the newer "freshly discovered" alternate gospel texts to find a loophole for Jesus. Quote
Topstrok11 Posted June 10, 2007 Author Report Posted June 10, 2007 The Bible was written by Judaic scholars and edited by imperialist nobles and aristocrats. If you "believe" what the Bible has to offer without putting it into practice, then you truly don't have a clue..... Why would I put something into practice when I have just proven that God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, etc. are liars and sinners? In all the bible quotes you posted, I saw nothing to indicate that the bible states that man is to be a slave to the woman. You have failed to logically dispute even one fact that I have presented. You have failed to cite even one Christian marriage in existence. Tell me even of one fertile couple in either the United States, Canada, New Zealand, etc. where the man clearly has the authority. You have clearly not read your Bible or else you would not be disputing these facts I present. How can you claim that Jesus is perfect when he can't even deliver the Christian marriage? Where is the Christian marriage? Now if you admit that Jesus is simply not perfect, perhaps we can let it go at that. Quote
Drea Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Topstrok11, you are newly divorced? With child support payments? My marital status is not relevant to this discussion. I have stated facts, and I have yet to see a logical dispute of those facts that I have presented. On the contrary -- your mindset has everything to do with whether or not you have experienced a relationship and whether or not that relationship went sour on you. From your post it seems that your wife left you and now you are paying child support. Also, you are very bitter about this. You have stated no "facts" at all. It is NOT a fact that a person named "Jesus" even ever existed, let alone have an effect on your life today. The fact is you are a whining man who no longer has his wife/slave and is crying and whining about it. Let's face it! The majority of women collecting child support money can be classified as whores. They get their cues from the popular media. If it dresses like a whore, walks like a whore, talks like a whore, and acts like a whore, it's most likely a whore OoooooOOOO -- see what I mean? This is the ranting of a very angry, bitter man. Do you not believe that you are responsible for your children's upbringing? The child support I get from my son's biological father goes to his future education, some mom's use the money for day to day expenses. Would you deny your children postsecondary education or food on the table because you are bitter towards your ex? Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
stignasty Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Okay, I tuned out after the first sentence of the original post. Scanning over it (and Posit's reply) though I could only think of one thing: http://www.timecube.com/ Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
BC_chick Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Topstrok, even though I'm not convinced you're for real (I tend to think you're some sort of anti-Christian who is using satire to make a point)... I'll bite. Even if the Bible says a bunch of sexist things, why do you call women whores for having sex? Does the Bible call women whores for wanting sex or is that your little interpretation thereof? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Posit Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 "....I have just proven that God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, etc. are liars and sinners?" No. You have just proven that you can't read the Bible. You read it face value and the underlying message escapes you. Christianity isn't what the New Testament is about. It is what people like you interpreted to be. I vote with others that you are a bitter divorcee and suspect that your wife probably went with someone else because you were a little short in the "manhood" department. Perhaps if YOU had acted a little more like a whore and a lot less like an inverted testicular bumpkin you might still be married. I prove what Jesus was about everyday. Miracles abound me. Too bad you have only yourself and faith in your minuscule thinking process to rely upon now.... Quote
ScottSA Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Welcome back Poly. I see you've moved up from attacks on Bush to attacks on God Himself. Good luck! Quote
cybercoma Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Even as an atheist, I find this thread horribly offensive. Quote
ScottSA Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 Welcome to our forum, nut-cup! As a great man once said, "Congratulations on being crazy and having a computer." -k Well, if stating the truth somehow makes me crazy in your view, so be it. I did note that you failed to include the passage where the man is to have orders barked at him by the woman. Can you cite the passage where man is to have orders barked at him by a woman? You will not be able to quote that passage, because it does not exist! Perhaps you might turn to one of the newer "freshly discovered" alternate gospel texts to find a loophole for Jesus. Alt Gospel 4:24 "Barkest orders thou at menfolk, for they laze about in the fields by day and fornicate with sheep in the night. Naggest thou him in the noontime, in the morn and yeah, in the afternoon. And at bedtime. Perchance at 3 am to boot. Invent ye the game named soccer and go forth as a soccer-slut. For sayeth the Lord, who lieth not." There, happy? Quote
M.Dancer Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 Welcome to our forum, nut-cup! As a great man once said, "Congratulations on being crazy and having a computer." -k There must be a way to get you posts collected and sent to me.....you should be writing for Rick Mercer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mad_Michael Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 Proof That Christianity is Null and VoidJesus is both a liar and a sinner. The Christian marriage has been outlawed in all 50 United States and does not exist anywhere in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or any other traditionally western country. If a believer has not the ability to have a Christian marriage, as defined by the Bible, the Covenant is null and void, hence Christ is a liar. If the churches cannot and will not speak out against the extinction of the Christian marriage, Christianity does not exist, and once again Christ is a liar. The Great Whore has indeed defeated Jesus, because Jesus lied! A Christian marriage can only be defined as that marriage where the authority of the male is supreme, even in the event that the marriage should fail. The fact that the power in any marriage, is by child support statute, entirely and exclusively in the woman's power, makes what is called a Christian marriage a sham. The idea that a woman can, on a moment's whim, begin to live and act like a whore - even forcing the children into her Jezebel schemes, whilst the man is forced into child support slavery to the woman. Not only is the man forced to pay for defective children (sometimes not even his), but it is common knowledge that most children of whores are defective. The man is also crippled in his ability to find a replacement woman, who can bear and help raise defect-free children because of the small slave wages allowed for him. Let's face it! The majority of women collecting child support money can be classified as whores. They get their cues from the popular media. If it dresses like a whore, walks like a whore, talks like a whore, and acts like a whore, it's most likely a whore. How can you possibly have Christianity when the Christian marriage does not exist? That's like saying you have lungs without any air. Nowhere in the Holy Bible is there even one reference - instructing men to have orders barked at them by a woman. The Holy Bible is abundantly clear on who should be in charge, between a man and a woman. Even if the husband is in error, this is still not a reason for a man's authority to be challenged. Please note the following. 1 Pet 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; The man was first given dominion over the woman in the Book of Genesis. Women were never meant for leadership and often show complete and utter incompetence. Please note the following. Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Adam also is punished, and he is punished for allowing the woman Eve to have dominion over him. Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Because of their inherent incompetence, women are instructed, within the Holy Bible, to be silent in church affairs. The legacy of womanly incompetence is the forced drugging of boys within the public schools with Ritalin, or other similarly dangerous drugs. Is it any wonder that those same boys inevitably turn to drugs when they get older? After all, soccer-slut mother said it was okay! One of the most dangerous side-effects of Ritalin is suicidal and homicidal thinking. Likewise, young girls get the idea that it is quite okay to act-out sexually like slut-mother, becoming sluts themselves. Thanks whore-mom! And men should be forced to pay for this? Mankind got along just fine before the child support laws, and the children managed to get fed. You're sitting here reading this, aren't you? I'd say you've gotten plenty to eat and none the worse for the wear. Most of you, if you happen to live in the United States, have gotten far too much to eat. Not all make it, but that's been our history ever since the dawn of time. Mankind has tried for attempts at Utopia, and that's all the child support laws are - Utopia. Utopia doesn't work and will never work. It only brings misery and suffering. 1 Cor 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. The husband is clearly meant to be the boss. There should be no misunderstanding with the following verse. Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. The husband (father) is clearly designated to be in charge of the family. The intent was never for Jezebel to be given license, through the child support laws, to go a-whoring - with the father being forced into child support slavery. Although a man can be divorced from his wife, he can't be divorced from his children. Not according to scripture! 1 Tim 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. There are some that would say this isn't God's department - that Jesus doesn't concern himself with the affairs of governments. Christian doctrine holds that the marital institution itself comes from God. This means that it is very much Jesus' department that there be the ability to have an actual Christian marriage. If that Christian marriage cannot be delivered, then Jesus has committed a fraud upon Mankind. After all, mankind was punished for disobedience to scripture, and now that obedience is impossible. The following passage is proof that the Christian marriage is a requirement of God, because it comes from God. It is Jesus' part of the contract (Covenant). Mathew Chapter 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Mathew Chapter 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What herefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. There are those who think that because these happen to be modern times, that the scriptures of the Holy Bible are somehow obsolete. Think again! Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. In summary, Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit have been proven to be liars and sinners, or liar and sinner if you think of them as one. Christians apparently deserve fanatics like this. One tends to reap as one has sown. And look how the poster is treated... Quote
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