Family of girl, 12, Sues after 'Brokeback Mountain' shown in c

[buffycat]

xxx = excess sex

*snicker*

[buffycat]

On a more serious note, if the teach showed and 'r' rated movie to underage - that's enough to have her reviewed.

The lawsuit is ridiculous.

However, why was brokeback given an 'r' rating? I never saw it, nor do I intend to, but was the rrr rating (hee hee) only due to its gay themes?

I would be far more concerned about incidents like the recent one in Tennesee where teacher terrorised the children in their care with a mock gunman attack.

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...1333/FEATURES05

Crazy world.

[Topaz]

Yes what the teacher did was wrong and shouldn't have shown it. When talking about psychological distress to children how many parents do the same to their kids without really knowing about. What I'm talking about is when WE parents make up stories for our kids and they believe us because we are their parents and we would never lie to them! We do lie every Xmas, building up the stories about Santa. Now you may think this is very silly and stupid but for SOME kids when they find out that there isn't a Santa and their parents lied, some kids can start to hate Xmas and their parents.

[guyser]

SOME kids when they find out that there isn't a Santa and their parents lied, some kids can start to hate Xmas and their parents.

Until the 25th and they see all the loot under the tree and forgive all. And on the 26th, all back to hating and normalcy.

[runningdog]

What in hell are they thinking showing this movie to 12 year olds??? If 12 year olds want to see it on their own (and with their parents' consent), whatever, but to show it in school?

[betsy]

If you'll note, Betsy never said it (xxx rated heterosexual sex) wasn't considered porn, so there was no bias displayed besides your own. BTW, when referring to xxx rated material, you don't need to also put triple in front of it, it's redundant.

besty:"In my view the act of sodomy is un-natural!"

"And if I'm not mistaken, homosexual sex is still considered pornography! "

as is heterosexual sex, but, betsy only singled out ,one kind of sexuality, homosexual.

if her claim was wrt pornography, she would not need to make this distinction.

Hence she makes clear her bias, against homosexuals.

What actually causes a movie to be labelled pornography is the explicitness of the sex, taking place in the movie.not the "who's doin' who" aspect of it.

btw: I like using all the xxx's it makes it more fun for me , okaY?

Holy mackerel! And why would I be talking of heterosexual sex....when the issue is about this movie Brokeback Mountain being shown to school kids in class? Do you know what this movie is all about?

It isn't about heterosexuals having a sex romp, is it?

If they had shown Tiffany Does Dallas instead, I'd still disapprove of it being shown in the classroom. Hetero or homo....porn is porn!

And yes, I do find sodomy un-natural! As someone jokingly quipped: "why, are you born with a tube of K-Y jelly in your hands?"

Anyway, seriously, with the mention of sodomy....why would you assume that only homosexuals practice that?

Ha-ha! You may have a point. What is sodomy? Is it homosexuals, heterosexuals, or is it a class act of its own?

What I find contemptible is the obvious way this Ms Buff had miraculously chosen...of ALL kid-friendly movies available under the sun...a HOMOSEXUAL movie! For the very obvious reason of being a PROPAGANDIST!

I bet you and company would be spitting and cussing if Ms Buff had instead shown the Passion of Christ!

But what I find most contemptible is the way some people...too blinded by their own bias... would automatically jump to label anyone who'd dare say boo! Get real!

[betsy]

This all sounds fishy and one sided.

I notice nothing from the teacher or the school , Hmmmm?

why?

Because the article is reporting on a lawsuit that has been filed.

-k

Kimmy, I fully understand that, and that's what makes it fishy, the article itself.

Reeks of an agenda.

Let's see, where to begin , what type of 'credible', news release, would not have a response at all, from the school or the teacher? In fact in reading the article it doesn't even appear the news source, attempted to contact the school or the teacher, or it would have been noted in the article.

Therefore it is a completely one-sided article.

Secondly if the concern was over an r-rated move, the fact that it is a "gay-themed" movie is not even necessary to be mentioned.

Would it have been acceptable by the grandparents and further the paper, if it was an r-rated movie? That had heterosexual foreplay/sexual inference in it???

Let's face it ,an r-rating is given if the "F word" is in the movie, inferred sex is not even necessary to get an r-rating.

But duly noting the fact that it is stated as a "gay-themed" movie, in the article, the lack of any sort of basic journalistic balance, makes it pretty obvious, that, the whole problem is not that it is an r-rated movie, but that it is a gay themed r-rated movie, and the article is written to raise the ire of homophobic christians.

Which, looking at the responses, from the self-proclaimed 'right-wing/christian/homophobes', (they can pick their own self-prescribed label) bait taken, hook and all.!

You gotta be kidding me!

How you and co-horts can expertly turn the tables around and attack those who show outrage over this incident. Why such rabid reactions?

Let's see, where to begin , what type of 'credible', news release, would not have a response at all, from the school or the teacher? In fact in reading the article it doesn't even appear the news source, attempted to contact the school or the teacher, or it would have been noted in the article.

Therefore it is a completely one-sided article.

Uhmmm let's see....maybe the accused were just following the legal counsel of their lawyers not to make matters worst by giving any statements to the press?

Anyway...

If Miss Buff had shown any movie with the same kind of sexual depiction as that of this Brokeback Mountain, wouldn't you be wondering why???

If you take off your blinders for a minute, quit bashing christians and concentrate on the REAL ISSUE....wouldn't you be wondering what the heck her MOTIVE was???

Especially when she warned her students: "what happens in Ms Bufford's class stays in Ms Buff's class."

From that statement alone, we know that she knows what she's doing is not acceptable, to say the least.

Did the word SEX PREDATOR ever entered your mind???? That showing these kinds of movies could be a prelude to seduction of these minors???

Of course, no matter what...it's obvious, she is "selling" the theme of this movie.

For what purpose, that's the question. Is she just another radical bent on promotion of acceptance of gays......OR is she a sexual predator??

In this day and age when sexual abuse of children and minors are so prominently in the news, any sensible adult would question this action of the teacher which had apparently the approval of the principal.

Why you'd choose instead to defend the teacher automatically...to the point of launching a precision knee-jerk attack on CHRISTIANS with your heat-guided missile....is baffling.

I wonder what other movies this Miss Buff would've been showing to these young students if no one had exposed it right away! Investigators should be checking on the backgrounds of these two individuals! Check on every minors they've had contact with in the past. And how these two accused (principal and teacher) had known each other, their relationship....outside the school.

And here's another thing you could accuse me of "gay-bashing".....judging from the kind of movie Miss Buff had chosen to show these 12 year-olds, what are the chances the next one would've been most likely lesbian-themed with the same graphic sexual contents...rather than Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet?

I bet if Miss Buff happened to be a heterosexual man who decided to show a lurid sex-themed movie.....you'd be screaming PEDOPHILES!!

I would've said it's hypocrisy and double-standard. But nah....it's just plain tunnel-vision bias! Coming from those who'd been propagandized...and had swallowed everything.... hook, line and sinker!

[southerncomfort]

Ms Buffy and Ms kuzadd believe their own propaganda cos they have to listen to it so much -

[guyser]

Did the word SEX PREDATOR ever entered your mind???? That showing these kinds of movies could be a prelude to seduction of these minors???

No, that would only occur among the paranoid and simple minded. Or those with an axe to grind.

Stupid move by the teacher no matter how you cut it.

[Figleaf]

Did the word SEX PREDATOR ever entered your mind???? That showing these kinds of movies could be a prelude to seduction of these minors???

No, that would only occur among the paranoid and simple minded.

Actually, you are mistaken. The teacher's pressure on the students to keep her actions secret is very much in line with abusers' tactics, as is the use of inappropriately mature media to 'groom' victims for later abuse.

I'm not concluding that is what this teacher intended, but it certainly is in line with behavior that is recognized as suggesting warning signs.