Figleaf Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 ... maybe he hasn't really, but he SHOULD ... "Former MP refuses to confirm or deny he got rich payout to vacate seat for Day Canadian Press Published: Saturday, March 24, 2007" http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national...7653b90&k=37328 Quote
Martin Chriton Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? How is that a "rich" payout? And don't we already have like 10 topics on this? Quote
Fortunata Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 It's not an unethical (or illegal?) payout if the Conservatives do it, only if the Liberals do it. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Posted April 20, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? The Criminal Code doesn't have any exemptions for how the money is characterized. How is that a "rich" payout? Depends on what you think of MP pay levels. Quote
Guest chilipeppers Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Why would someone post something that isn't true, its not true the title of this should be corrected. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Posted April 20, 2007 Why would someone post something that isn't true, its not true the title of this should be corrected. The title is to get attention. The true state of affairs is made clear immediately in the post. Quote
Guest chilipeppers Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Your idea of a true state of affairs is not necessarily so. Quote
ScottSA Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Why would someone post something that isn't true, its not true the title of this should be corrected. The title is to get attention. The true state of affairs is made clear immediately in the post. Reported Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Why would someone post something that isn't true, its not true the title of this should be corrected. The title is to get attention. The true state of affairs is made clear immediately in the post. Reported I'm reporting your reporting. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shakeyhands Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Why would someone post something that isn't true, its not true the title of this should be corrected. The title is to get attention. The true state of affairs is made clear immediately in the post. Reported I'm reporting your reporting. hahaha... reported. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Topaz Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 It's not an unethical (or illegal?) payout if the Conservatives do it, only if the Liberals do it. Try not to blame the poor old formers PC ers, its the former Alliance members that are slippery. Quote
Fortunata Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 You're MOSTLY right. Don't forget Peter McKay. Quote
jbg Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? How is that a "rich" payout?And don't we already have like 10 topics on this? Not enough for Harper haters. They get a surge of delight i talking trash about Harper. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Figleaf Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? How is that a "rich" payout? And don't we already have like 10 topics on this? Not enough for Harper haters. They get a surge of delight i talking trash about Harper. Ummm ... this thread is about the possible involvement of Stockwell Day and people around him, not Harper. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? How is that a "rich" payout? And don't we already have like 10 topics on this? Not enough for Harper haters. They get a surge of delight i talking trash about Harper. Ummm ... this thread is about the possible involvement of Stockwell Day and people around him, not Harper. I've noticed this about the current government, there seems to be this feeling that if something is ignored, it will go away. I hope the RCMP doesn't let this go away. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Michael Bluth Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Ummm ... this thread is about the possible involvement of Stockwell Day and people around him, not Harper. Actually this thread is about you giving completely inaccurate and false titles to thread. Your outright obsession with Stockwell Day is frightening. This issue has passed. The five/six threads here have all been started by you. The most commong poster on all of them is you. What did Stockwell day ever do to you? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
jdobbin Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I thought the payout was only a portion of the MPs remaining salary? How is that a "rich" payout? It might seem small to you but when an MP quits, his salary ends. And if he quit with the aim of being paid, it is illegal. The RCMP have the documents now. We'll see what they make of them. Given that it took as long as they did to clear Ralph Goodale, we might see this since one...oh, around the next election. No word on whether Day will have the same result as Goodale though. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 Your outright obsession with Stockwell Day is frightening. This issue has passed. You wish it has, but the thing is, this isn't simply an "issue", its a serious allegation of criminal wrongdoing, with strong prima facie evidence to support it. An "issue" may pass, but serious allegations of criminal wrongdoing with strong prima facie evidence to support them don't. The five/six threads here have all been started by you. ...can't even count straight! What did Stockwell day ever do ... ? That IS the question. Quote
margrace Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Ummm ... this thread is about the possible involvement of Stockwell Day and people around him, not Harper. Actually this thread is about you giving completely inaccurate and false titles to thread. Your outright obsession with Stockwell Day is frightening. This issue has passed. The five/six threads here have all been started by you. The most commong poster on all of them is you. What did Stockwell day ever do to you? I beg your Pardon?????? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 I beg your Pardon?????? Figleaf started this thread with the false title. Lie. He/she is obsessed with this issue that feel out of the media weeks ago. Do you Understand?????? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
madmax Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 Figleaf started this thread with the false title. Lie.He/she is obsessed with this issue that feel out of the media weeks ago. The title is misleading. It isn't the first misleading title in this forum. I believe the intent of the title is to appear like a headline in a newspaper to get people to read. But if a poster continue to mislead the actual content with a false headline people will stop looking at the posters threads. That said, is Stockwell Day in difficulty or not? Will this go away? Quote
Nocrap Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 It's not an unethical (or illegal?) payout if the Conservatives do it, only if the Liberals do it. Try not to blame the poor old formers PC ers, its the former Alliance members that are slippery. That's the way I feel as well. The bulk of the CPC are former Alliance or Reform members with a completely different agenda than the Progressive Conservatives. That being said, if Stockwell Day is being charged, or at least being investigated for criminal activities; he should step aside until the issue is resolved, especially with the portfolio that he handles. Ironically, his office is responsible for dealing with the current corruptness within the RCMP, while he himself is being investigated by the RCMP. Major conflict of interest and if the tables were turned and this was happening to someone from any other party, the CPC would never keep silent. They platformed on honesty and transparency, but certainly do not govern under the same priorities. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Posted April 22, 2007 ... if Stockwell Day is being charged, or at least being investigated for criminal activities; he should step aside until the issue is resolved, especially with the portfolio that he handles. Ironically, his office is responsible for dealing with the current corruptness within the RCMP, while he himself is being investigated by the RCMP. Major conflict of interest and if the tables were turned and this was happening to someone from any other party, the CPC would never keep silent. Great point. Day staying in that portfolio under these circumstances is nothing short of scandalous. I really don't understand why Steve doesn't just shuffle Stock to somewhere safe while this plays out. It would certainly smell a whole lot better. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 That being said, if Stockwell Day is being charged, or at least being investigated for criminal activities; he should step aside until the issue is resolved, especially with the portfolio that he handles. Ironically, his office is responsible for dealing with the current corruptness within the RCMP, while he himself is being investigated by the RCMP. Major conflict of interest and if the tables were turned and this was happening to someone from any other party, the CPC would never keep silent. If Day is being charge, or investigate, he will step aside. He hasn't been charged. The RCPM has not announced that an investigation is ongoing. Until they do he should not resign. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Figleaf Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Posted April 23, 2007 If Day is being charge, or investigate, he will step aside. He hasn't been charged. The RCPM has not announced that an investigation is ongoing. That's a ridiculous position. While they DECIDE about a formal investigation, Day could be influencing that decision. He must step aside IMMEDIATELY to avoid the implication of interference. Quote
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