BubberMiley Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 As much as the GOP has tried to play the blame game and say the previous administration dropped the ball on Arab terrorism, once again, all the evidence points to the fact that the Republicans are totally incompetent when it comes to national security. I guess when you don't believe government can be effective, it's a self-fullfilling prophesy once you're in power. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/070416/worl..._attacks_france Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Along with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, and the 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, the Embassy Bombing is one of the major anti-American terrorist attacks that preceded the September 11, 2001 attacks. The comparatively restrained response of the Clinton Administration, at the time embroiled in the Lewinsky scandal, which included the cruise missile strikes of Operation Infinite Reach and the arrest and prosecution of some of the perpetrators, has sometimes been cited as a factor in emboldening al Qaeda to undertake the September 11th terrorist attacks of 2001 and also raised political debate in the United States about whether to respond to terrorism with a military or law enforcement paradigm. http://www.cargolaw.com/images/Disaster2000.Cole.1.Gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 has sometimes been cited as a factor in emboldening al Qaeda to undertake the September 11th terrorist attacks of 2001 Did bin laden say that's the reason why he attacked the U.S.? Seriously though, do you really think al qaeda thought out the consequences of their actions? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
segnosaur Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 As much as the GOP has tried to play the blame game and say the previous administration dropped the ball on Arab terrorism, once again, all the evidence points to the fact that the Republicans are totally incompetent when it comes to national security. First of all, keep in mind that if you read through the article you posted, it says: But there was no discussion then of flying the plane to the United States to smash it into a building there. Furthermore, there is no indication that the french intelligence agency knew WHEN or WHERE such hijackings would occur. (And I do wonder how many warnings the U.S. gets like this on a regular basis.) There certainly doesn't seem to be enough to identify a course of action, and short of shutting down all air travel indefinitely there isn't much that COULD be done. Secondly, keep in mind that the Bush administration had only been in power a short length of time, AND they would have inherited various bueracracys from previous administrations, which would restrict information flow within the intelligence communities. This certainly doesn't mean that the Bush administration has been perfect (or even competent) in handling 'terrorism'... I think information exchange between various agencies is still poor, their 'friendship' with Saudi Arabia may be counter-productive, and some anti-terrorism efforts are misplaced; however, assuming that they would have known enough to stop the hijackings is probably unfair and inaccurate. Lets critticize them for things they've actually done wrong (of which there are many). Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Did bin laden say that's the reason why he attacked the U.S.? Seriously though, do you really think al qaeda thought out the consequences of their actions? Yes, their actions were methodical and purposeful...engage the Great Satan in Holy Jihad. America's only weakness is her economy, so it made sense to strike that symbol....AGAIN. Trouble is, now they have Yankee infidels running all over the goddamn Holy Land. Ooops! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Posted April 19, 2007 The comparatively restrained response of the Clinton Administration, at the time embroiled in the Lewinsky scandal... Actually, I remember the GOP were quick to cite Wag the Dog when Clinton bombed the al qaeda terrorist camps in Afghanistan, saying he was bombing those poor people to distract the American people from more important matters, like Monica Lewinsky's dress. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Yes, their actions were methodical and purposeful...engage the Great Satan in Holy Jihad. America's only weakness is her economy, so it made sense to strike that symbol....AGAIN.Trouble is, now they have Yankee infidels running all over the goddamn Holy Land. Ooops! Do you think if Clinton had done more, al qaeda would have backed off? Or do you think they were so dedicated to their goals that nothing short of death could have stopped them from carrying them out? If you think a "stronger" response would have prevented 9/11, then how come it didn't stop the terrorist attacks that have occured since then? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Do you think if Clinton had done more, al qaeda would have backed off? Or do you think they were so dedicated to their goals that nothing short of death could have stopped them from carrying them out?If you think a "stronger" response would have prevented 9/11, then how come it didn't stop the terrorist attacks that have occured since then? Prevented 9/11? The WTC was first attacked in 1993....they just hosed it up. Even Canada was sending bombers over the border. Let's bomb LAX !!! How often has the US been attacked by Al Qaeda stateside since the "stronger" response? Was Hokie Cho an Al Qaeda operative? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Prevented 9/11? The WTC was first attacked in 1993....they just hosed it up. You were the one who seemed to be implying that it was Clinton's "restrained" response that allowed 9/11 to happen...unless I am misinterpreting you. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 You were the one who seemed to be implying that it was Clinton's "restrained" response that allowed 9/11 to happen...unless I am misinterpreting you. I posted a citation from Wiki...interpret it however you wish. I ask again: How many times has the USA proper been attacked since 9/11 (including Millennium Bombers from Canada)? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 I ask again: How many times has the USA proper been attacked since 9/11 (including Millennium Bombers from Canada)? None that I know of, why? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 None that I know of, why? Oh, nothing...I guess Al Qaeda is just too busy right now with combat boots and Hellfire missiles embedded in their asses. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Oh, nothing...I guess Al Qaeda is just too busy right now with combat boots and Hellfire missiles embedded in their asses. Yeah...and they weren't too busy on 9/11...what is your point? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Yeah...and they weren't too busy on 9/11...what is your point? Idle time is the devil's workshop....now they are very busy. It's President Bush's secret program to keep Al Qaeda busy 24/7. Cut off the funding and cut off the blood supply. Invasion...destruction...tax reduction. What did you expect him to do....have sex in the Oval Office to get his mind off 9/11? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 It's President Bush's secret program to keep Al Qaeda busy 24/7. Cut off the funding and cut off the blood supply. Invasion...destruction...tax reduction. Too bad they didn't think of that BEFORE 9/11, huh? If you're going to blame Clinton, you've gotta blame Bush too. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Too bad they didn't think of that BEFORE 9/11, huh? If you're going to blame Clinton, you've gotta blame Bush too. Fine by me...now that we have that settled, there is lost time to be made up and Al Qaeda perps that need killin'. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
gc1765 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 there is lost time to be made up and Al Qaeda perps that need killin'. you mean oil to be pumped, that is the purpose of war isn't it Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 you mean oil to be pumped, that is the purpose of war isn't it Yes...the secret to life is good lubrication. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Even Canada was sending bombers over the border. Let's bomb LAX !!! What ???? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 As much as the GOP has tried to play the blame game and say the previous administration dropped the ball on Arab terrorism, once again, all the evidence points to the fact that the Republicans are totally incompetent when it comes to national security. I guess when you don't believe government can be effective, it's a self-fullfilling prophesy once you're in power.http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/070416/worl..._attacks_france buckpassing seems to be their favorite game - cheerleaders aren't involved in the real competition - just ask Shrub Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
ScottSA Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 As much as the GOP has tried to play the blame game and say the previous administration dropped the ball on Arab terrorism, once again, all the evidence points to the fact that the Republicans are totally incompetent when it comes to national security. I guess when you don't believe government can be effective, it's a self-fullfilling prophesy once you're in power. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/070416/worl..._attacks_france buckpassing seems to be their favorite game - cheerleaders aren't involved in the real competition - just ask Shrub Actually, it is you and your ilk who have tried to play the blame game, by blaming Bush 6 months into his presidency. Quote
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