Jerry Galinda Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Some obvious information but I'm wonder - "To be fair to Israel, most of the credit goes to Ariel Sharon, the giant vegetable, and like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.. a prime example of how psychopaths can sometimes rise to power." - what does it mean ? From your point of view it means that Ariel Szaron is a psychopaths ? Why ? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 surge working? well, now it seems it is only working if one cooks the books Link U.S. officials exclude car bombs in touting drop in Iraq violence WASHINGTON - U.S. officials who say there has been a dramatic drop in sectarian violence in Iraq since President Bush began sending more American troops into Baghdad aren't counting one of the main killers of Iraqi civilians.Car bombs and other explosive devices have killed thousands of Iraqis in the past three years, but the administration doesn't include them in the casualty counts it has been citing as evidence that the surge of additional U.S. forces is beginning to defuse tensions between Shiite and Sunni Muslims. President Bush explained why in a television interview on Tuesday. "If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory," he told TV interviewer Charlie Rose. ... so, there it is, for the Buschistas to offer a true picture, they must admit the insurgents have won, "a huge victory" no, the surge is not working --- but, apparently, the insurgency is working - Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
M.Dancer Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 Reported Iraqi Fatalities in the last 6 month (troops surge began Feb 1) Nov-06 1864 Dec-06 1752 Jan-07 1802 Feb-07 1531 Mar-07 1889 Apr-07 1387 http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guthrie Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 ... Bush administration officials have pointed to a dramatic decline in one category of deaths - the bodies dumped daily in Baghdad streets, which officials call sectarian murders - as evidence that the security plan is working. Bush said this week that that number had declined by 50 percent, a number confirmed by statistics compiled by McClatchy Newspapers. But the number of people killed in explosive attacks is rising, the same statistics show - up from 323 in March, the first full month of the security plan, to 365 through April 24. Overall, statistics indicate that the number of violent deaths has declined significantly since December, when 1,391 people died in Baghdad, either executed and found dead on the street or killed by bomb blasts. That number was 796 in March and 691 through April 24. Nearly all of that decline, however, can be attributed to a drop in executions, most of which were blamed on Shiite Muslim militias aligned with the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Much of the decline occurred before the security plan began on Feb. 15, and since then radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has ordered his Mahdi Army militia to stand down. ... figures don't lie but liars figure Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 QUOTE Not every German was a nazi, but almost every nazi was German........... Woody allege that - No, not almost every nazi was German. Almost every nazi was German. Majority of Nazi’s were Germans. BTW. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 QUOTENot every German was a nazi, but almost every nazi was German........... Woody allege that - No, not almost every nazi was German. Almost every nazi was German. Majority of Nazi’s were Germans. BTW. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Jerry is lying about me Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 27, 2007 Report Posted April 27, 2007 Woody is a patient with arteriosclerosis. He forgot that he had said - “No, not almost every nazi was German”. Almost every nazi was German. Majority of Nazi’s were Germans. BTW. Why muslims supported Nazis (e.g. in Egypt) ? Woody don’t know why ! Check in Wikipedia. Quote
ScottSA Posted April 28, 2007 Report Posted April 28, 2007 Reported Iraqi Fatalities in the last 6 month (troops surge began Feb 1)Nov-06 1864 Dec-06 1752 Jan-07 1802 Feb-07 1531 Mar-07 1889 Apr-07 1387 http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx Wow, the figures sure are going down...500 less this month than last... Quote
GostHacked Posted April 28, 2007 Report Posted April 28, 2007 http://www.obleek.com/iraq/ Neat site shows the location of troop deaths sice the war started, I think they stopped at the Surge. Be interesting once they get the rest updated. Should show how effective this surge really is. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 28, 2007 Report Posted April 28, 2007 Wow, the figures sure are going down...500 less this month than last... The war must be coming to an end then. Mission accomplished. Quote
BubberMiley Posted April 28, 2007 Report Posted April 28, 2007 500 less this month than last... Do you think those April stats go right to April 30? Do you figure Iraq exists in the future and it's May there already? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
ScottSA Posted April 29, 2007 Report Posted April 29, 2007 500 less this month than last... Do you think those April stats go right to April 30? Do you figure Iraq exists in the future and it's May there already? More likely for that to happen than there to be civil war there. Quote
Jerry Galinda Posted April 29, 2007 Report Posted April 29, 2007 Why do Iraqis kill each other ? Why do muslims kill another muslims in Algerie ? Quote
Guthrie Posted April 29, 2007 Report Posted April 29, 2007 WASHINGTON (IPS) - The Bush administration and proponents of the U.S. troop surge in Iraq have claimed that the increased military presence in Baghdad and al-Anbar province has reduced sectarian violence between Sunni and Shiite Muslims and lowered civilian casualties. But not all of the numbers are being included.It has emerged that the Bush administration does not count car bombing victims among Iraq's civilian casualties and the Iraqi government is withholding from the United Nations its statistics on Iraqi casualties. ... Link when the number of manufacturing jobs in America had suffered a dramatic drop, the Buschistas tried to start calling making hamburgers as a manufacturing job --- these guys don't care about the truth, only what kind of angle they can find it gets difficult when their own top commander admits what liars they are WASHINGTON - Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, said Thursday that the surge of U.S. and Iraqi troops into Baghdad hadn't reduced overall violence in the country and that the situation was "exceedingly complex." http://www.theolympian.com/101/story/91227.html Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 29, 2007 Report Posted April 29, 2007 Why do Sunnis kill Shiites in Iraq ? Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 30, 2007 Report Posted April 30, 2007 Reported Iraqi Fatalities in the last 6 month (troops surge began Feb 1) Nov-06 1864 Dec-06 1752 Jan-07 1802 Feb-07 1531 Mar-07 1889 Apr-07 1387 http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx Wow, the figures sure are going down...500 less this month than last... ....Month isn't over....as of April 28th there have been over 1550 killed ... In other words, the months fluctuate but the death toll remains fairly constant Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guthrie Posted April 30, 2007 Report Posted April 30, 2007 so more of the same? meanwhile, US casualties are worse than they were that April, 4 years ago when Bush decided to play jet cowboy and land on an aircraft carrier --- hmmm tomorrow is the anniversary of that declaration, 'Mission Accomplished' now there is not even a single defender of, 'Mission Accomplished' -- now the bogus defense claim is, "surge is working' --- and they have to admit, even that is not true and now they should be looking for volunteers, 'Who wants to be the last man to die in Bagdad?' -- show of hands?? of coures, this means those among you who still have them Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Jerry Galinda Posted April 30, 2007 Report Posted April 30, 2007 How many hundreds of thousands Iraqis kill each other after leaving Iraq by US force ???????? Why do Sunnis kill Shiites in Iraq ? Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 Reported Iraqi Fatalities in the last 6 month (troops surge began Feb 1) Nov-06 1864 Dec-06 1752 Jan-07 1802 Feb-07 1531 Mar-07 1889 Apr-07 1387 http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx Wow, the figures sure are going down...500 less this month than last... ....Month isn't over....as of April 28th there have been over 1550 killed ... In other words, the months fluctuate but the death toll remains fairly constant April's Death toll is in.....1821 May is continuing it's bloody course averaging 50 corpses. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 If the surge was to really work, and if it was a solid plan, then 100,100 troops would have been sent in to finish the war once and for all. 32,000 troops will not quell the violence in Iraq. And since they cannot get 100,000 troops, (recruiting is low) this surge will not help overall one bit at all. Quote
Guthrie Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 the surge has already been shown up as an indefensible effort to continue an indefensible occupation defending the slaughter by saying it could be worse is not just ludicrous, it is insane Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
M.Dancer Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 At this point the presence of US and coalition troops has little to do with the slaughter. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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