Figleaf Posted March 26, 2007 Report Posted March 26, 2007 What's the status of this issue? Has Day stepped aside, or is he corruptlly purporting to oversee the investigation of himself? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 26, 2007 Report Posted March 26, 2007 What's the status of this issue?Has Day stepped aside, or is he corruptlly purporting to oversee the investigation of himself? How much do the Liberals pay you to clutter this board with your never-ending false choices about the Conservatives? Choices that can only lead to the Conservatives looking bad or worse? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
daniel Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 Has Day stepped aside, or is he corruptlly purporting to oversee the investigation of himself? Don't be surprised if Day is let off the hook because of some provision in the Accountablilty Act exactly for this purpose. Quote
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 What's the status of this issue? Has Day stepped aside, or is he corruptlly purporting to oversee the investigation of himself? How much do the Liberals pay you to clutter this board with your never-ending false choices about the Conservatives? Choices that can only lead to the Conservatives looking bad or worse? You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. Please say there is an investigation going on. I haven't heard of one. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. Please say there is an investigation going on. I haven't heard of one. The incriminating documents have been provided to the RCMP, have they not? Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 The incriminating documents have been provided to the RCMP, have they not? And an Investigation was announced? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 The incriminating documents have been provided to the RCMP, have they not? And an Investigation was announced? What do you think they are going to do with the documents, wipe their noses? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. He isn't directly overseeing the investigation into his own actions. Even if your unfounded allegations were correct, it wouldn't be corruption on Day's part. It would be an apparent conflict of interest at best. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. He isn't directly overseeing the investigation into his own actions. What a pathetic prevarication. He's the minister responsible for the police force. The precedents in this kind of thing are set. He must step aside, or he'll never really be cleared. Even if your unfounded allegations were correct' What sort of lie is that now? What unfounded allegation have I made? None. Quote
Wilber Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. Please say there is an investigation going on. I haven't heard of one. The incriminating documents have been provided to the RCMP, have they not? Apparently documents have been provided. It is up to the police and prosecutors to decide if they are incriminating. That's the way our system works. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You're hilarious. You think it's okay for Day to be boss of the police force that is investigating him? Please say you do. That would prove your opinions are sketchy at best. Please say there is an investigation going on. I haven't heard of one. The incriminating documents have been provided to the RCMP, have they not? Apparently documents have been provided. It is up to the police and prosecutors to decide if they are incriminating. That's the way our system works. And how will they decide that? Maybe they'll INVESTIGATE, d'you think? Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 What do you think they are going to do with the documents, wipe their noses? They may just do that, or give it back to Holland and tell him he should wipe his ass with it. Until there is an investigation announced, nothing will change. I suggest you stop drooling over the prospects of a scandal until a investigation is announced, and hope that they find something worthy of investigating. You may require the documents yourself to wipe the disappointment off your face,if nothing is found. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 What do you think they are going to do with the documents, wipe their noses? They may just do that, or give it back to Holland and tell him he should wipe his ass with it. Until there is an investigation announced, nothing will change. The RCMP have documents that on their face suggest a criminal offence may have occured. A person who may be involved in that possible offence cannot stay as the minister over them while they look into that. Announcement or not. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 The RCMP have documents that on their face suggest a criminal offence may have occured. A person who may be involved in that possible offence cannot stay as the minister over them while they look into that. Announcement or not. On their face? That's quite the stretch. So what is the test for a document to "on it's face" suggest a criminal offence "may" have occurred. Seems like all it would take to force a Minister to resign under such a light burden is to conjure a document fo some kind... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 The RCMP have documents that on their face suggest a criminal offence may have occured. A person who may be involved in that possible offence cannot stay as the minister over them while they look into that. Announcement or not. On their face? That's quite the stretch. No stretch at all. All the elements of the offense are discernible in the documents and the actions that they related to. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 No stretch at all. All the elements of the offense are discernible in the documents and the actions that they related to. Do make the legal case. What is the statute involved? What are the elements of the offence? Show us how each of those elements are met. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 No stretch at all. All the elements of the offense are discernible in the documents and the actions that they related to. Do make the legal case. What is the statute involved? What are the elements of the offence? Show us how each of those elements are met. Why should I recite the obvious? If you want to make the effort -- The statute involved is the criminal code. It's available on the internet. Check out ss.119-123 or so. Read what the discovered documents say. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 Why should I recite the obvious? If you want to make the effort -- The statute involved is the criminal code. It's available on the internet. Check out ss.119-123 or so. Read what the discovered documents say. OK. Yet again, proving you are full of hot air and blather but very little in the way of facts. Thanks Figleaf. Your honest and insightful contribution is appreciated as usual. Recite the obvious Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 The RCMP have documents that on their face suggest a criminal offence may have occured. A person who may be involved in that possible offence cannot stay as the minister over them while they look into that. Announcement or not. On their face? That's quite the stretch. No stretch at all. All the elements of the offense are discernible in the documents and the actions that they related to. Listen Columbo,or is it Perry Mason? Anyway, the proper thing for you to do is offer your services to the RCMP and go and hang the guy right now. You say he's guilty and you should know(must be intuition,being a Liberal, or is it esp?) Save the taxpayer a bundle ,do away with the proper proceedures, and just hang the guy. I know this is all very exciting for you and I'm sure you've got a rope long enough. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 Listen Columbo,or is it Perry Mason? Anyway, the proper thing for you to do is offer your services to the RCMP and go and hang the guy right now. You say he's guilty and you should know(must be intuition,being a Liberal, or is it esp?) Save the taxpayer a bundle ,do away with the proper proceedures, and just hang the guy. I know this is all very exciting for you and I'm sure you've got a rope long enough. It's *obvious* that Day should step down as Minister. Seems like magically finding documents is all that is needed to force somebody a Minister to retire. How unstable would our Government be if events in the real world behaved how they *obviously* should? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
gc1765 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 Seems like magically finding documents is all that is needed to force somebody a Minister to retire. If those documents do indeed prove that he broke the law, then yes. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Michael Bluth Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 If those documents do indeed prove that he broke the law, then yes. Fair enough. But that's a big *if*. Do you think he shoud step aside here and now because of those documents? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
gc1765 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 Fair enough. But that's a big *if*. Do you think he shoud step aside here and now because of those documents? I suppose I'd have to see the documents first. If this much is true: "My resignation was contingent upon this negotiation," he allegedly wrote.... ...then it is clear that he broke the law. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Figleaf Posted March 27, 2007 Report Posted March 27, 2007 You say he's guilty You should learn to read. I never said anyone was guilty. I'm saying that Stockwell Day has to step aside while the RCMP look into the situation. being a Liberal I'm not. do away with the proper proceedures The proper procedure is for a person interested in the outcome of an investigation to not be in charge of the investigators. Quote
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