Canadian Flag

[cybercoma]

I came across this one on deviant arts, its interesting how the artist merged the maple leaf and fleur de lis into one.

I really dig this flag actually.

[cybercoma]

It's the "unity flag". The idea was that adding blue to the flag would acknowledge Quebec.

http://en.wikipedia....dian_Unity_Flag

-k

It would look much better if there was a thin white line between the blue and the red, instead of having them right against each other.

[Sleipnir]

I think that it should be the red ensign with http://www.pch.gc.ca...bl/arm2-eng.cfm coat stamped onto it.

Thanks for the link, it looks very informative

Didn't know we had 4 official floral emblem

[Sleipnir]

It would look much better if there was a thin white line between the blue and the red, instead of having them right against each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture

[The_Squid]

The Flag should be updated to remove the overt ignorance of Canada's past.

The maple leaf really is a way at erasing Canada's history from the flag. While the maple leaf is great as a simplified flag, it is really hollow in regard to Canada's heritage.

The us has 51 stars.... canada has founding nations, as well as modern immigrants... we should have them as a means of instilling Canadians to know their own past and all those who helped to make it what it is today.

I totally agree. The flag we have now was a pathetic attempt. An eastern maple... how inclusive! I like the idea of encompassing the history of a country into its flag, like the USA did with their stars/stripes.

A fleur-de-lis... a union jack.... a symbol to represent First Nations... something really cool could have come out of that. Instead, I think we got a cop-out.

[Sleipnir]

[cybercoma]

I totally agree. The flag we have now was a pathetic attempt. An eastern maple... how inclusive! I like the idea of encompassing the history of a country into its flag, like the USA did with their stars/stripes.

A fleur-de-lis... a union jack.... a symbol to represent First Nations... something really cool could have come out of that. Instead, I think we got a cop-out.

It would be too busy but you could do a 4 quadrant flag with the union jack in one corner, fleur-de-lis in another, the First Nations confederacy logo in another, and the maple leaf or something else in another.

[Sleipnir]

It would be too busy but you could do a 4 quadrant flag with the union jack in one corner, fleur-de-lis in another, the First Nations confederacy logo in another, and the maple leaf or something else in another.

Kinda like this you mean? I know its missing the FN confederacy logo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canada_flag_Group_C_Finalist.svg

Edited November 16, 2012 by Sleipnir

[login]

First Nations do not include the Inuit so they must be represented differently. Also some sort of symbol of early immigrants should also be included, such as Germans, Ukranians, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Eastern Europeans etc.. so a symbol for immigration. Also the Metis are a distinct nation in Canada and should be recognized seperately. You may even question if religions should be included also such as Mennonites, Catholic and Protestant groups, as well as other religions, because they have infused so greatly into the history of Canada.

They needn't be large, much like a star on the US flag is not large. But I think having the many symbols of Canada could go well beyond the ignorance of the Canadian Monarchies authority base as a means to describe what Canada is. I think Canada is more than the Monarchical rule, but it does include it.

Edited November 16, 2012 by login

[blueblood]

First Nations do not include the Inuit so they must be represented differently. Also some sort of symbol of early immigrants should also be included, such as Germans, Ukranians, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Eastern Europeans etc.. so a symbol for immigration. Also the Metis are a distinct nation in Canada and should be recognized seperately. You may even question if religions should be included also such as Mennonites, Catholic and Protestant groups, as well as other religions, because they have infused so greatly into the history of Canada.

They needn't be large, much like a star on the US flag is not large. But I think having the many symbols of Canada could go well beyond the ignorance of the Canadian Monarchies authority base as a means to describe what Canada is. I think Canada is more than the Monarchical rule, but it does include it.

We have that pretty much, it was the original ensign on scribletts picture. However people wanted change...

[eyeball]

Historical flag of Vancouver Island.... I think the island should be its own nation. The beaver should figure prominently on our new flag.

You got something against sea-rats?

A beaver wouldn't have a chance against a sea-rat.

[login]

We have that pretty much, it was the original ensign on scribletts picture. However people wanted change...

Yes I think you may be partially correct but not fully, some people wanted change, it is rather unfortunate really.

It is unfortunate society is so apathetic today. I do think the maple leaf does represent Canada, but it doesn't represent Canadians. One must realize that Canadian citizenship didn't even exist until after WWII. It is very unfortunate that People had to be selfish and result in the loss of so many rights both Britains and Canadians would be enjoying today.

It is strange that now the boomers are aging, soon the British Canadians will be gone. Of course then there is another 25-30 years before the common wealth citizens are gone. But within 50 years if Canada still exists the citizenship bonds will be all but gone between Britain and Canada. that is rather unfortunate.

It is still a long way off, there is no telling what a world 50 years from now would be like to 50 years as a midway from the year of the mapleleaf to today to how far we have gone.

It is hard to imagine a world half a century from now... I think though the mapleleaf was reactionary.. to the suez crisis, and it really didn't represent Canadian public identity

Edited November 16, 2012 by login

[cybercoma]

Kinda like this you mean? I know its missing the FN confederacy logo.

http://en.wikipedia...._C_Finalist.svg

Not at all. I'm thinking white cross w/ 4 quadrants.

[g_bambino]

I think that it should be the red ensign with http://www.pch.gc.ca...bl/arm2-eng.cfm coat stamped onto it.

What you describe basically is the Red Ensign: a red field with the Royal Union Flag in the canton and the shield of the monarch in the field.

I see no need to return to that. Putting aside the politics and looking at it from just a vexilogical point of view, what you propose is even more symbolically messy than the Red Ensign was; the complete royal arms are full of symbols of thier own, which you want to slap onto a flag with even more symbols (and which are present in the coat of arms, anyway). When viewed from afar and blowing in a wind, as flags often are, one wouldn't be able to decipher much.

The shield of the arms are used as the basis of the monarch's standard, anyway:

The maple leaf really is a way at erasing Canada's history from the flag. While the maple leaf is great as a simplified flag, it is really hollow in regard to Canada's heritage.

If that's what you think, then you don't know much about Canadian history. The maple leaf was first used as an identifying symbol by the residents of New France. Its use gradually spread and was incorporated into official symbols: the coats of arms of the new provinces of Ontario and Quebec in 1868; it was on the uniforms of Canadian soldiers in the First World War; and it was included in the arms of Canada when they were created in 1921. (Incidentally, the Red Ensign you adore only came into use in 1870.) Further, the red and white used in our national flag were declared by George V to be the national colours of Canada, the red coming from Saint George's cross and the white from the royal emblem of French kings since Charles V. So, yea, the current flag is pretty plump with history and heritage, despite its superficial simplicity.

[ed.: sp]

Edited November 16, 2012 by g_bambino

[Sleipnir]

I think that it should be the red ensign with http://www.pch.gc.ca...bl/arm2-eng.cfm coat stamped onto it.

According to the North American Vexillological Association, the 5 basic principles of making a proper flag are...

1) Keep It Simple

The flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory

http://www.nava.org/flag-design/good-flag-bad-flag/keep-it-simple

2. Use Meaningful Symbolism

The flag's image, colours, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes.

http://www.nava.org/flag-design/good-flag-bad-flag/meaningful-symbolism

3. Use 2-3 Basic Colours.

Limit the number of colours on the flag to three, which contrast well and come from the standard colour set.

http://www.nava.org/flag-design/good-flag-bad-flag/use-2%E2%80%933-basic-colors

4. No Lettering Or Seal.

Never use writing of any kind or an organization's seal.

http://www.nava.org/flag-design/good-flag-bad-flag/no-lettering-or-seals

5. Be Distinctive or Be Related.

Avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections.

http://www.nava.org/flag-design/good-flag-bad-flag/be-distinctive-or-be-related

[The_Squid]

You got something against sea-rats?

A beaver wouldn't have a chance against a sea-rat.

haha I love the sea rats! Maybe a sea rat and the giant, tree eating land rats should both be on the flag!

[Sleipnir]

haha I love the sea rats! Maybe a sea rat and the giant, tree eating land rats should both be on the flag!

Land rats? As opposed to an aquatic rat?

[eyeball]

Beavers are the only real rodents here. Sea-rats OTOH are actually otters and related to wolverines and badgers. Like I said they'd tear a rodent to pieces and as such would make a nice emblem for the tough little province Vancouver Island would make.

Canada is far better represented by the giant rat than us.

[The_Squid]

would make a nice emblem for the tough little province nation Vancouver Island

[eyeball]

Now you're talking.

[Sleipnir]

Cyber what you think of this?

http://images.wikia.com/althistory/images/c/c4/%28EEM%29canadaflag.png

[cybercoma]

Pretty cool

[Merlin]

That's crap. It looks like a Scandinavian or Icelandic flag. Please no I'd rather keep what we already have.

[Sleipnir]

That's crap. It looks like a Scandinavian or Icelandic flag. Please no I'd rather keep what we already have.

I seriously doubt what is discussed here would actually lead to something outside of this forums.

[cybercoma]

That's crap. It looks like a Scandinavian or Icelandic flag. Please no I'd rather keep what we already have.

settle down, captain. The flag isn't changing