scribblet Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe the U.N. should concern itself more about the real racism and human rights abuses in places such as Zimbabwe - the U.N. has a nerve IMO http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...2989a97&k=18408 Canada told not to use term 'visible minorities' UN watchdog calls words 'racist,' but offers no alternative UNITED NATIONS - Canada's use of the term "visible minorities" to identify people it considers susceptible to racial discrimination came under fire at the United Nations yesterday --for being racist. In a report on Ottawa's efforts to eliminate racial discrimination in Canada, the world body's anti-racism watchdog said the words might contravene an international treaty aimed at combatting racism. Members of the Geneva-based Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination also questioned other terms used by the federal government, among them "ethnocultural communities." Other highlights of the report include a call for Canada to provide welfare to illegal immigrants and failed refugee applicants; an expression of concern about "racial profiling;" and a recommendation that Canada pass laws to prevent Canadian transnational companies from trampling on the rights of indigenous peoples overseas. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Hydraboss Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Personally, I think the term "racism" is racist. Maybe the UN should change that to "anti-specific-peoplism". What do ya think? Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Wilber Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 I think it is getting more difficult every day to take the UN seriously. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Mad_Michael Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe the U.N. should concern itself more about the real racism and human rights abuses in places such as Zimbabwe - the U.N. has a nerve IMO The existence of worst human rights violations in other nations does not absolve Canada from engaging in low level violations. The UN is well with its mandate to address the issue as they see fit. Canada told not to use term 'visible minorities'UN watchdog calls words 'racist,' but offers no alternative This is the words of a National Post reporter. No such body in the UN has any legal right to compel action on any issue in Canada. As it stands, the UN may only recommend what they feel is important. Canada may ignore it as it sees fit. These UN recommendations carry as much weight as a blue ribbon citizen's commission. That is to say, nada. The National Post of course does not mention this in the article since it doesn't fit the 'narrative' of the story that the National Post obviously prefers. Indeed, the National Post appears to continue its longstanding attempt to become 'Fox News North'. Quote
Mad_Michael Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 I think it is getting more difficult every day to take the UN seriously. I'd be more worried about the National Post - they are your neighbours who live down the street. They appear to troll the planet looking for stories they can spin for the purposes of creating outrage. Fox News North is what they are becoming. Besides which, the UN is a thousand miles away and has no authority in Canada. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Canada told not to use term 'visible minorities'UN watchdog calls words 'racist,' but offers no alternative This is the words of a National Post reporter. No such body in the UN has any legal right to compel action on any issue in Canada. As it stands, the UN may only recommend what they feel is important. Canada may ignore it as it sees fit. These UN recommendations carry as much weight as a blue ribbon citizen's commission. That is to say, nada. The National Post of course does not mention this in the article since it doesn't fit the 'narrative' of the story that the National Post obviously prefers. Indeed, the National Post appears to continue its longstanding attempt to become 'Fox News North'. I normally don't defend newspapers of any ilk.....but the Post did mention that nothing was binding....seems just like a factual reporting of the facts to me: All countries that have signed the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination must appear periodically before the committee to explain how they are respecting the treaty.While the recommendations are not legally binding, Ottawa says it is taking note. "Constructive suggestions made by the committee may be useful to Canada in order to enhance its implementation of the convention," said Dominique Collin, a Canadian Heritage spokeswoman. Quote Back to Basics
Posit Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Ah Canaduh is a racist state. Where else in the world do they centre a race of people out assign them a number and place them on apartheid reserves? Yep Nazi Germany did that just before they exterminated 60 million Jews and same with South Africa to displace the natives from their land. It is about time that the UN started to crack down on Canada. Quote
Riverwind Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Ah Canaduh is a racist state. Where else in the world do they centre a race of people out assign them a number and place them on apartheid reserves?ROTFL. This is rich coming from a native supremicist who, if like your compatriots, wants to take over land belonging to other people, start to tax them but deny them the right to vote.Most Canadians want to see the reserve system and the indian act consigned to the dustbin of history. The only reason it continues to exist today is because the leaders in the native communities want to preserve it. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
guyser Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 Yep Nazi Germany did that just before they exterminated 60 million Jews and same with South Africa to displace the natives from their land. Oh...you lose! Use Nazi and you lose. Thanks for playing Quote
Wilber Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 I'd be more worried about the National Post - they are your neighbours who live down the street. They appear to troll the planet looking for stories they can spin for the purposes of creating outrage. Fox News North is what they are becoming. So I should take nonsense seriously as long as it comes from the UN. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
RB Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...2989a97&k=18408Canada told not to use term 'visible minorities' UN watchdog calls words 'racist,' but offers no alternative they called them "people of the rainbow" discrimination, racism, separation of people and culture will exist no matter what name you call the bunch that don't look or fit into THE popular ideology the rainbow seem to be pulled out of dreamland, perhaps we are inspired with pots of gold at the end of the rainbow for the minorities to find it is typical of politics to change the names of negative connotations as soon as everyone learn of the boundaries in which to operate Quote
sideshow Posted March 8, 2007 Report Posted March 8, 2007 I think that there are way bigger fish to fry than the term "visible minorities". The UN does a lot of good in the world, but in this instance, give me a break. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 I'd be more worried about the National Post - they are your neighbours who live down the street. They appear to troll the planet looking for stories they can spin for the purposes of creating outrage. Fox News North is what they are becoming. Indeed, the National Post appears to continue its longstanding attempt to become 'Fox News North'. Hmmm, consecutive posts to attack the National Post... Any particular reason for attempting to hijack the thread with something totally off topic? Did Bill O'Reilly steal candy from you when you were a child? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Leafless Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 I think that there are way bigger fish to fry than the term "visible minorities". The UN does a lot of good in the world, but in this instance, give me a break. I think the U.N. is bang on, the term "visible minorities" is racist. Why would a country such as Canada display such racial disparity when in fact the country is 'officially multicultural' and is an obvious fact, the country contains a variety of races. There is no need to separate or label anyone on the basis of race. Canada freely chose this official multicultural route. Quote
Wilber Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 "visible minorities" is racist. How so? It separates minorities you can identify by sight from those you cannot. Dwarfs and midgets would be a visible minority, deaf people would not. It is only racist in your mind. Should we not acknowledge that we have any minorities at all because it would be derogatory to identify them? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
stevoh Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 There is no need to separate or label anyone on the basis of race. Thats just the problem, certain government programs and subsidies can be based on identifying minorities. As long as these programs exist, there has to be a way of differentiating people to find out if they qualify. Quote Apply liberally to affected area.
Monroe Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 I wonder what some people want, sometimes. Let's face it, there's racist attitudes out there. And unless there's some language we can use to describe the victims of racism, then we're never going to be able to tackle the problem head-on. I wish people were more bothered with combating racist attitudes than in making people watch their tongue at every step. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Maybe the U.N. should concern itself more about the real racism and human rights abuses in places such as Zimbabwe - the U.N. has a nerve IMOhttp://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...2989a97&k=18408 Canada told not to use term 'visible minorities' UN watchdog calls words 'racist,' but offers no alternative UNITED NATIONS - Canada's use of the term "visible minorities" to identify people it considers susceptible to racial discrimination came under fire at the United Nations yesterday --for being racist. In a report on Ottawa's efforts to eliminate racial discrimination in Canada, the world body's anti-racism watchdog said the words might contravene an international treaty aimed at combatting racism. Members of the Geneva-based Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination also questioned other terms used by the federal government, among them "ethnocultural communities." Other highlights of the report include a call for Canada to provide welfare to illegal immigrants and failed refugee applicants; an expression of concern about "racial profiling;" and a recommendation that Canada pass laws to prevent Canadian transnational companies from trampling on the rights of indigenous peoples overseas. This is the same organization that is try to scare the shit out of people because summer nights are 1C warmer - and paid off 2500 scientists to do it. There was a big UN confenece here in Vancouver last summer and HOLY SHIT. These pathetic bureaucrats live in a wonderbubble. I actually never thought bureaucrats of this stupid magnitude actually existed, but they do. Quote
Monroe Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 It's what happens when the permanent staff of an organisation like that live in a vacuum, where the only people who join are those who want to save the world. Quote
Leafless Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 "visible minorities" is racist.How so? It separates minorities you can identify by sight from those you cannot. Dwarfs and midgets would be a visible minority, deaf people would not. It is only racist in your mind. Should we not acknowledge that we have any minorities at all because it would be derogatory to identify them? What your saying is ludicrous. If you tag anyone with the minority label then all others should be tagged with the appropriate I.D. label also, i.e.: 1. Deaf person = part of handicapped invisible minority group 2. A Francophone= part of linguistic visible minority group 3. English speaking person= part of linguistic visible majority group 4. A Black deaf person= part of Black handicapped linguistic minority group 5. A White Francophone= part of White majority, linguistic minority group And the list goes on. Can't you see how racist this all is? For I.D. purposes, either vocal or written, for whatever official purpose, you call it for what factual information properly describes the individual and applies to everyone. Quote
noahbody Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 "visible minorities" is racist. How so? It separates minorities you can identify by sight from those you cannot. Dwarfs and midgets would be a visible minority, deaf people would not. It is only racist in your mind. Should we not acknowledge that we have any minorities at all because it would be derogatory to identify them? What your saying is ludicrous. If you tag anyone with the minority label then all others should be tagged with the appropriate I.D. label also, i.e.: 1. Deaf person = part of handicapped invisible minority group 2. A Francophone= part of linguistic visible minority group 3. English speaking person= part of linguistic visible majority group 4. A Black deaf person= part of Black handicapped linguistic minority group 5. A White Francophone= part of White majority, linguistic minority group And the list goes on. Can't you see how racist this all is? For I.D. purposes, either vocal or written, for whatever official purpose, you call it for what factual information properly describes the individual and applies to everyone. Is a bureaucrat with brains a visible minority? Quote
Wilber Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 "visible minorities" is racist. How so? It separates minorities you can identify by sight from those you cannot. Dwarfs and midgets would be a visible minority, deaf people would not. It is only racist in your mind. Should we not acknowledge that we have any minorities at all because it would be derogatory to identify them? What your saying is ludicrous. If you tag anyone with the minority label then all others should be tagged with the appropriate I.D. label also, i.e.: 1. Deaf person = part of handicapped invisible minority group 2. A Francophone= part of linguistic visible minority group 3. English speaking person= part of linguistic visible majority group 4. A Black deaf person= part of Black handicapped linguistic minority group 5. A White Francophone= part of White majority, linguistic minority group And the list goes on. Can't you see how racist this all is? For I.D. purposes, either vocal or written, for whatever official purpose, you call it for what factual information properly describes the individual and applies to everyone. No I don't but lets just call everyone green, doesn't matter if it means anything but heaven forbid that we recognize people are different. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
jbg Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Personally, I think the term "racism" is racist. Maybe the UN should change that to "anti-specific-peoplism".What do ya think? Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination - UN, 1975 Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hydraboss Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 How about we take direction from that freak from the 80's, Prince. We could now refer to people as "The People Formerly Known As Visible Minorities" Yes? No? Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
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