Oleg Bach Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Multi -culturalism is the taking on of a skin - a skin that has the capacity to be discriminated against - it is victimhood - and the role of victim is profitable to a small degree but in the long run - no one playing the victim truely prospers. My parents assimulated - and their culture was confined to dinner parties with friends... Dad never said - I am a dumb Russian immigrant and I am hard done by..He did what had to be done...a few rocks did come through the dinning room window on occassion cause we were "foreign" - but being the black white person only lasted a few years - Just had to beat up the town bully and we were over the hump _ did no need the state to grant us equal rights - we made our own equal rights. Quote
Bonam Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Why does it matter what they do? We're better than they are. It matters what they do because they are part of the world we live in. Quote
jbg Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Posted July 17, 2011 Why does it matter what they do? We're better than they are. It matters what they do because they are part of the world we live in. It also matters because they don't risk their culture being inundated with "foreign" influence and wiped out; we do. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 It matters what they do because they are part of the world we live in. Sure, okay, but that doesn't mean we should treat others a certain way based on how they treat others. Quote
Smallc Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 It also matters because they don't risk their culture being inundated with "foreign" influence and wiped out; we do. Our cultures in Canada and the US are built in foreign influence. It's one of many things that make us different from them. Don't use them as an excuse for xenophobia. Quote
Shwa Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 It also matters because they don't risk their culture being inundated with "foreign" influence and wiped out; we do. Which "culture" is at risk from being "innudated with foreign influence and being wiped out?" Did you actually write "we do?" LOFL! Hyperbole much? Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Which "culture" is at risk from being "innudated with foreign influence and being wiped out?" Did you actually write "we do?" LOFL! Hyperbole much? And add a dash of xenophobic paranoia... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Wild Bill Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Sure, okay, but that doesn't mean we should treat others a certain way based on how they treat others. Actually, it does! At least, if we want our culture to survive. You see, there are others that have learned they can win by perverting the Golden Rule. If they know that their "opponent" will always turn the other cheek they can take advantage of him! It's simple games theory, the kind you really can't argue over. It is what it is. So If we find ourselves in competition with any particular culture or more specifically, certain aspects of a culture that conflicts with our own values we must stand up and defend our own values! For instance, some of the more extreme values against women, such as genital mutilation, a barring from education, honour killings, arranged marriages and such WHICH HAPPEN EVERY DAY IN AREAS IN AND AROUND THE GTA offend our own culture. We must vigorously oppose such values, both socially and legally. Otherwise they will slowly become accepted, under the guise of "multi-culturalism". Perhaps such things are unheard of in Winnipeg. I sincerely hope so! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Evening Star Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Jbg, even the American 'melting pot' concept is based on the idea that American culture is defined by the synthesis of all the different immigrant cultures that make it up. Jewish-American cultural contributions are a major part of what defines 'American culture', for example. The idea that the culture can be 'wiped out' because of 'foreign influence' really begs the question. Edited July 17, 2011 by Evening Star Quote
Smallc Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Actually, it does! Actually, no. As a society we have defined principles of inclusiveness and mutual integration. Our society is better because of it. Quote
Dissenter Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Which "culture" is at risk from being "innudated with foreign influence and being wiped out?" Did you actually write "we do?" LOFL! Hyperbole much? It's not hyperbole at all. The US is projected to have a white minority by 2042, Canada around the same time and the UK by 2066. Our culture is predominantly European. If the Chinese founded Canada and the US, do you think they'd be the same countries? Quote Asian countries for Asians. African countries for Africans. White countries for everyone or you are racist! They say they're anti-racist but they're really just anti-white. Anti-racist is code for anti-white.
Dissenter Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Actually, no. As a society we have defined principles of inclusiveness and mutual integration. Our society is better because of it. Is that what mommy professor taught you? Diversity is forced on predominantly white countries and ONLY predominantly white countries. Our society is based on forcing white people to accept this, and suppressing dissent by smearing people who object to it and you know it. Quote Asian countries for Asians. African countries for Africans. White countries for everyone or you are racist! They say they're anti-racist but they're really just anti-white. Anti-racist is code for anti-white.
Evening Star Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 For instance, some of the more extreme values against women, such as genital mutilation, a barring from education, honour killings, arranged marriages and such WHICH HAPPEN EVERY DAY IN AREAS IN AND AROUND THE GTA offend our own culture. We must vigorously oppose such values, both socially and legally. Otherwise they will slowly become accepted, under the guise of "multi-culturalism". Citation for genital mutilation and honour killings happening every day in and around the GTA? Quote
Dissenter Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Jbg, even the American 'melting pot' concept is based on the idea that American culture is defined by the synthesis of all the different immigrant cultures that make it up. Jewish-American cultural contributions are a major part of what defines 'American culture', for example. The idea that the culture can be 'wiped out' because of 'foreign influence' really begs the question. In order to be an immigrant, a host nation has to exist. Thus the founding people were not immigrants. Up until the 1960s, when the American government caved to Jewish pressure to open the flood gates of immigration from around the world, America was 90% white, or, if the word "white" offends you, of European descent. Moreover, every founding father was white, or, again, of European descent. In the preamble of the U.S. Constitution, it states, "...secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." This is what America was built on NOT the 1960s counter-culture movement or Jewish influence. Now, I ask you, WHO do you suppose they were talking about when they used the words, "ourselves and our posterity," anchor babies? America and its culture were created by people of European descent. Quote Asian countries for Asians. African countries for Africans. White countries for everyone or you are racist! They say they're anti-racist but they're really just anti-white. Anti-racist is code for anti-white.
Evening Star Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Deleted. I'm just going to let Dissenter's post speak for itself. Edited July 18, 2011 by Evening Star Quote
Evening Star Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 OFFICIAL Multi-cult was a Liberal invention to appeal to immigrants by making them believe they didn't have to spend any effort in assimilating, thus likely getting a good portion of them to vote Liberal. I've heard claims like this a number of times but have never seen anyone provide evidence that PET or any other high-ranking Liberals actually had these ulterior motives. In any case, even if they did, I'm not too bothered as long as the policy was good for the country - and I think it was. In practice, they still had to assimilate a fair bit anyway, simply because Canada was not going to change for them. Now, the first generation is finding it very hard to keep their kids from abandoning their first country culture. To their kids, that culture is from a land far away. Their home is where they live every day, namely Canada. I suppose I haven't read the papers and bills myself, but afaik, there is nowhere in Canadian multicultural policy that it says immigrants "don't have to spend any effort in assimilating" at all. That's not what multiculturalism means. Quote
jbg Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Posted July 18, 2011 Up until the 1960s, when the American government caved to Jewish pressure to open the flood gates of immigration from around the world, America was 90% white, or, if the word "white" offends you, of European descent. Moreover, every founding father was white, or, again, of European descent.So explain. Why do you hate Jews? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 ...America and its culture were created by people of European descent. No....this is patently false. The American experience (and culture) is far more complex than your narrow focus on "people of European descent". In many respects, the Americans rejected the culture of Europe. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 No....this is patently false. The American experience (and culture) is far more complex than your narrow focus on "people of European descent". In many respects, the Americans rejected the culture of Europe. Did you even read what you replied to? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Guest American Woman Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) The US is projected to have a white minority by 2042, Canada around the same time and the UK by 2066. Our culture is predominantly European. This is true. For the first time, more than half of the children under age 2 in the U.S. are minorities, part of a sweeping race change and a growing age divide between mostly white, older Americans and fast-growing younger ethnic populations that could reshape government policies. Demographers say the numbers provide the clearest confirmation yet of a changing social order, one in which racial and ethnic minorities will become the U.S. majority by midcentury. Census shows whites lose US majority among babies Edited July 18, 2011 by American Woman Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Did you even read what you replied to? Yes...that's why this forum engine has a quote feature. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Is that what mommy professor taught you? I didn't finish university. Quote
dre Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Yes...that's why this forum engine has a quote feature. But your argument was an absolute airball. You replied to this... America and its culture were created by people of European descent. With.... No....this is patently false. The American experience (and culture) is far more complex than your narrow focus on "people of European descent". In many respects, the Americans rejected the culture of Europe. Oops! Whether they objected to European culture or not does not change the fact that they were people of European descent. Not a big deal... your forgot to read. Lets just move on. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Dissenter Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 So explain. Why do you hate Jews? As I have said before, it is double-standards that I do not like. I have pointed out the fact that Jews have played a prominent role in what I think has been, and continues to be, harmful to white Christians, and others for that matter, but I have supported that argument with mainstream sources and quotes from Jews themselves. I would certainly not compare them to donkeys the way that an influential rabbi did with gentiles: http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=191782 Nor would I suggest that ALL Jews are the same, but Jews have played a prominent role in policies that are harmful. Why is it OK to criticize Christians and Muslims all day long for everything that they have done, but one must not criticize Jews? Quote Asian countries for Asians. African countries for Africans. White countries for everyone or you are racist! They say they're anti-racist but they're really just anti-white. Anti-racist is code for anti-white.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Oops! Whether they objected to European culture or not does not change the fact that they were people of European descent. Not a big deal... your forgot to read. Lets just move on. And the Europeans were of African descent if that be your game. Hence, American "culture" ultimately comes from...Africa. Now lets just move on. Edited July 18, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.